Pyschic DB in M13 (Video Proof)

[Big FN Deal]

Wanted to post these because I know the old adage "video or it didn't happen", both are from the same online game. I was playing in a Virgin Gaming/EA Arena free tournament. I wonder if anyone else is noticing this too.

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[tfctillidie]

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ball hawk feature responsible? I'm not sure myself, but I know if you take a DB not looking and hold the "interception" button, this stuff happens and is contributing to the excessive int's right now.

[ryan36]

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Yeah the ball hawk feature is horrible. Seriously, what a crap idea.

I get they didn't want the offense to be too powerful... but still.

[Big FN Deal]

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ball hawk feature responsible? I'm not sure myself, but I know if you take a DB not looking and hold the "interception" button, this stuff happens and is contributing to the excessive int's right now.

It possible the User switched at the last minute I guess but that still doesn't acconut for the DB making his cut before or at the same as my receiver, in both videos. I thought the defender had to wait for the receiver to move and then react to it. Not to mention the obvious DPI.

[azdawgpound]

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thats how all my int's are happening i hope they fix this with so called patch.

[Cory Levy]

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The defensive player was in position, turned his head and caught the ball. Probably due to the ball hawk feature but, still, those are two passes that shouldn't have been thrown and aren't really displays of "psychic" DBs.

[Big FN Deal]

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The defensive player was in position, turned his head and caught the ball. Probably due to the ball hawk feature but, still, those are two passes that shouldn't have been thrown and aren't really displays of "psychic" DBs.

I rarely ever post a video and maybe the angle is bad or something, so you can't see that the defender is impeding the receiver. However, you honestly can't see the defender running the route before the receiver?

[blklightning]

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I haven't noticed it yet. In fact, in my only game so far, there were a couple of passes that I know I wouldn't have completed in past Maddens. But now, it seems pretty fair.

That play you posted might have been a glitch where the defender didn't turn his head. And the defender did not run the route before the receiver did. The receiver made his cut and then the defender reacted. Based on only one play, I'm gonna chalk this up to a visual glitch.

[DarthRambo]

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I see what you're trying to prove, and you are rigt..it appears that Physic DB is in this play at least. HOWEVER, I have to say that you honestly had no business throwing the ball to that receiver. Church had him covered like a pig in a blanket! Therefore this doesn't bother me at all, and prolly why physic db's never really bothered me in the past either. Most of the videos I see showing it are throws into coverage.

[Cory Levy]

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I rarely ever post a video and maybe the angle is bad or something, so you can't see that the defender is impeding the receiver. However, you honestly can't see the defender running the route before the receiver?

I could see an argument for DPI so maybe that needs to be turned up in the options if it already isn't. As for the defender running the route first, not really. In both videos the WR is the one who cuts first and then the defensive player follows.

Had the WR done a fake inside and then ran up the field, he would have been open. But he didn't so the defender stayed inside, kept good coverage and was in the perfect position to make INTs that shouldn't have been but were thrown directly at him.

[DetroitStyle]

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If it's not the ball hawk feature then it's just a misrepresented animation. Although it looks as if the defender is "looking" one way, the programming may have him looking at the ball but the animation just doesn't correspond to it. It's a little different from psychic DB's where they actually mimic the ROUTE you're running.

TL;DR: The animation sucks and the DB in reality was really looking the ball in the whole time.

[DarthRambo]

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And if you look closely at video #1, the wide receiver puts his hands out to catch the ball right before the DB turns to intercept the pass. When the WR reaches out that clues the DB to turn and look for the ball irl doesn't it? It's definitely a little sketchy looking I will give u that, but imo it's not physic DB.

[Big FN Deal]

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I see what you're trying to prove, and you are rigt..it appears that Physic DB is in this play at least. HOWEVER, I have to say that you honestly had no business throwing the ball to that receiver. Church had him covered like a pig in a blanket! Therefore this doesn't bother me at all, and prolly why physic db's never really bothered me in the past either. Most of the videos I see showing it are throws into coverage.

Completely disagree because in a real football game, this would be a smart pass by the QB because the defender has his back to the ball. So either the receiver makes the catch or the defender is called for DPI but there is little to no chance of an INT. Like another person posted, maybe the wrong animation played and the program considered the defender "looking" at the ball but from the way it looks, that is not a bad pass in a real football game. I will give you, I should have known it's likely a bad pass in Madden but I had made one similar on Demarcus Ware covering Santana Moss in the slot with his back to the ball. I should have recorded that one as well.

[Cory Levy]

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Completely disagree because in a real football game, this would be a smart pass by the QB because the defender has his back to the ball. So either the receiver makes the catch or the defender is called for DPI but there is little to no chance of an INT.

Little to no chance of an INT? Maybe if the QB threw it in the right place but he did not do that here. Both times the ball is thrown right to the body of the defender. Unless a circus catch occurs, there's little chance a WR makes that catch with a defender blanketing him and the ball thrown in that spot.

Both times the defender covers the WR well, keeps on the inside of him and then reaches his hands in front of the WR's when the WR attempts to catch while also snapping his head around. I don't know how you could argue those were good passes at all.

[NINJAK2]

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The defensive player was in position, turned his head and caught the ball. Probably due to the ball hawk feature but, still, those are two passes that shouldn't have been thrown and aren't really displays of "psychic" DBs.

You are right Cory but I think if the DB atleast turns his head at the same time the receiver does to look for the ball that INT would look so much better. The fact that the DB turns the minute the ball is only inches from his body gives the impression that the DB has eyes on his back...You are right though that those were terrible passes regardless.