Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

[jdefreitas]

***Note: Credit to Jarodd21 who set up a really good Green and Red set of sliders that helped us start forming our base.

These sliders take those two sets and tweak some areas we thought could use adjustments. For casual sim-gamers who are not HARDCORE All-Madden players and just want a realistic football game, this set should be up your alley***

Game Speed: Slow
Threshold: 0
Difficulty: All-Madden (to get around the playcalling bug where the CPU runs 80% and passes 20% - All Madden custom sliders fix it)
8 Minute Quarters

Human/CPU

30/55
0/15
45/60
50/55
15/80
25/50
30/50
40/45
0/45
0/40
0/35
50/50

Field Goal Acc to 45


We both have been battle testing these sliders and they play great.

My first game against Chicago in the preseason was a 24 - 20 win and I felt like it played true to stats. The sliders do save if you save with the select button and upon boot will be where you left them.

Not trying to plug our set really, just want to prove they work. The game-play is awesome in my eyes. Sorry for the double post in the other thread but thought that enough of the community may benefit from these sliders that they were worth putting up as such.

Thanks all.

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's 2013 CCM (Offline) All-Madden Sliders

Changed: FG Accuracy changed from 40 to 45. CPU missing too many kicks on 40, making EVERYTHING on 50.

Stats from first regular season game coming within a day or so. Finishing up preseason before I post any stat lines.

[thecoard]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

I'm literally stuck between pro and all-pro. I outscore Pro by 35 but lost by 21 in AP. Think these would be at about that level I'd need?

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's 2013 CCM (Offline) All-Madden Sliders

I'd honestly say that these are a bit tougher than all-pro, but honestly not much.

The games I was playing on default all-pro on the demo (which doesn't exactly correlate to the retail) were all pretty close and felt pretty similar to the experience I'm having now as far as difficulty.

The key is turning threshold down to 0 and putting speed on slow. The fact that the speed is on slow may help you if you are playing on normal now because it gives you another split second to break down the play and coverage.

If anything these may give you a good starting point. The only thing I would recommend tweaking if you decide to try them in your case with your skill set would be the human passing sliders and the human run sliders (depending on the team you use).

If you use a team with a speed style/agile back the human run sliders are perfect. If your run style is power or more A gap, B gap, I'd bump human run sliders up a tad.

So for you if you decide to use these try:

Human Run Block + 5, Human Pass Block + 10, CPU Int - 5 or so

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's 2013 CCM (Offline) All-Madden Sliders

Changed: CPU Int's down to 45 from original 50. Too many picks, CPU making ANY bad throw pay (too often).

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

Changes: Major update to CPU Running game needed after getting past pre-season and playing starters full games.

Human Run Reaction time - 0
CPU Broken Tackle - 55

Testing tomorrow evening.

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

As promised, a stat-line from my most recent game last night - A 21 - 14 win over the Seahawks in preseason with a dramatic finish. T. Jax drove the Hawks to my 1 yard line with 37 seconds left. 3 holds in a row (2 passes, 1 run), time ran out and I pulled out the victory with no time left. Probably the best game of madden I've played in years:

B. Osweiler 15 - 22, 246 yards, 68%, 1 TD, 0 Int, 11.1 avg, 36 long, 1 sack
P. Manning 5 - 7, 58 yards, 71%, 1 TD, 0 Int, 8.1 avg, 20 long

T. Jackson 16 - 23, 211 yards, 69%, 2 TD's, 1 Int, 9.1 avg, 42 long
M. Flynn 3 - 4, 9 yards, 75%, 2.2 avg, 5 long

Mcgahee 20 - 81, 4.0 avg, 1 TD
Hillman 6 - 29, 4.8 avg
Ball 5 - 18, 3.6 avg, 1 Fumble

Turbin 6 - 50, 8.3 avg
T. Jackson 4 - 31, 7.7 avg
Lynch 3 - 25, 8.3 avg


That being said a quick couple of explanations (not excuses). I choked TOP the first quarter so Flynn and company only got one drive. I was up most of the game by 1 score, at one point 2 scores so they stopped running, except for the occasional draw, which obviously caught me by surprise (see their carry average). Jackson broke a few nice scrambles because I laid on the blitz at that point as well.

Lastly, T. Jax was going against 2nd and 3rd stringers the whole game, and I think it's safe to say, with him being a very low end starter, top tier two QB that the numbers aren't THAT realistic. One play went for 40 yards or so (throw on the run), so take that away and his yardage was only about 170 over 3 quarters of play.

The carry average here wasn't bad obviously, but my friend testing regular season games (now in week 11) who is playing 4 quarters with starters vs. starters is recognizing that first string defenses are too much for CPU running, whose carry average is only hovering between 1 - 2 yards a carry regardless of team (minus a rare break out game). We are working on that right now and should have some more stat lines tonight or tomorrow.

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

If there are any offline CCM coaches out there, can I get a few testers for the CPU run game with the new sliders?

It seems like it is the toughest thing to get right this year. Unfortunately the avg is inflated for the last game I played due to the low amount of carries (CPU playing down most of the game).

Let me know results and stat lines for RB's if you test. Much appreciated.

[ryanryanryan]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

I started using your sliders mixed with sliders from jerrad21's penalty/sub/gameplay length sliders and am getting some great games in my redskins franchise. with 11 minute quarters and 25 second runoff i'm getting the perfect amount of plays per game (120-135 usually) and the stats are very realistic. I'm averaging about 4.0-4.5 ypc with Hightower/Helu and RGIII is performing about as well as he should be. I'm 1-1 in the first 2 games - lost to the Saints 31-28 and beat the Rams 24-17. The only thing is a few too many fumbles/dropped passes so I adjusted those a tad. Besides that these work perfect for my skill level. Thanks man.

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

Good to hear Ryan. Thanks for testing for me. We have noticed with some of our other friends that are playing using these that small tweaks will need to be made per player, but from what I hear they are minor changes as you are suggesting.

I will say this, check the catch ratings of your players and know who your go to's are. For instance on my squad I bumped Caldwell down to fourth and moved Stokley up because his catch was much better, and Caldwell was making a lot of drops with these sliders before I made the depth chart change.

Quality hand guys won't make many drops, but poor catch rated players will.

We went with the intent of making this a game where losses to the CPU COULD actually happen. We are experiencing the same as you, you should have a lot of close games, lose to better teams and be able to pull off wins against bad and so so teams.

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

Changed: CPU Run blocking up to 80 (Still attempting to find the sweet spot for the 3 - 5 yard carry average).

[jdefreitas]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

Update: The slider set has been completed and will be tested now over the course of an entire season with 8 minute quarters and no clock run off. I will have two people running the season and will post our QB and main RB's stats for the season as well as the top five QB's and RB's in each of our leagues. Plan on this taking a few weeks, but stat lines for the season will be up within the month.

If anyone else would like to test, please feel free and let me know if you think this is a good final template. Thanks fellas.

[chickenhed]

Re: Jason and Cole's Offline CCM All-Madden Sliders

So for those of us who let the cpu do as much as it can (meaning I let the cpu run the ball on my side. I throw as a QB only because I have to), would you suggest I bump up my run blocking to compensate?