Well, I Guess This Says It All

[Airdrop01]

Mr. Price, do you know if this is a for real post (from the EA forums)?

"This was a response to a specific question about controlling multiple players as a coach. By "it's exactly the same" I meant "how you control the players on the field is exactly the same". Give me the benefit of the doubt - I was up front about the other features on the first page of this thread.

I’m sorry I can’t provide the answers you’re looking for regarding all the features that you love. In the end, I’m just a programmer trying to help you guys learn about the game. I can’t promise anything about the patches we have planned, but I can promise that there are active discussions about all of the features you’ve mentioned.

What I will say is that this reboot year has put Madden in a fantastic position going forward. Of course we knew there was downside and risk. That’s true of any reboot. But the upside is huge. We now have a fully integrated online platform. We have a single mode that we can update every year without having to ignore two other modes. We will bring back all the important features in time, and they’ll be better than ever.

I hope you guys will still find fun ways to play the game. I can’t say much more on this subject."

[Lionsfan7887]

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I'm sure EA knew there was going to be issues, but they had to change things up because the last few Maddens just weren't cutting it. They really have built a good foundation with 13. Yes there are problems but it can only go up from here.

[roadman]

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Mr. Price, do you know if this is a for real post (from the EA forums)?

"This was a response to a specific question about controlling multiple players as a coach. By "it's exactly the same" I meant "how you control the players on the field is exactly the same". Give me the benefit of the doubt - I was up front about the other features on the first page of this thread.

I’m sorry I can’t provide the answers you’re looking for regarding all the features that you love. In the end, I’m just a programmer trying to help you guys learn about the game. I can’t promise anything about the patches we have planned, but I can promise that there are active discussions about all of the features you’ve mentioned.

What I will say is that this reboot year has put Madden in a fantastic position going forward. Of course we knew there was downside and risk. That’s true of any reboot. But the upside is huge. We now have a fully integrated online platform. We have a single mode that we can update every year without having to ignore two other modes. We will bring back all the important features in time, and they’ll be better than ever.

I hope you guys will still find fun ways to play the game. I can’t say much more on this subject."

I'm taking it you didn't read it until the end?



Final thoughts: I think accountability is important and that's one of the reasons I'm here. I'm bringing back lots of feedback about the changes we've made. Most of the things you've brought up were already top priorities before the game was released. Some of them we plan to act on this year. Some of them we'll take back as new priorities for next year.

[WeBB15]

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Seems like he is just being political and anecdotal based on that hes just a programmer and cant say anything/ has no idea.

This backlash for such a simple feature being taken out, custom rosters/ editing players*...that has been in past decade or so of maddens, that is mode-breaking... seems like it needs to be patched to some extent.

[js3512]

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Isn't it obvious by now? They chose to reboot this year so that they'd be in good shape with the release of the new systems instead of having to reboot once those system were being shipped ala Madden 06. As much as it may suck losing those features now, it's probably better to lose them now in order to have them back for the launch of next gen instead of losing them at the launch of next gen. All that would do is cause next gen to be a mess just like this one was.

[Airdrop01]

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Well, I can afford to not have the $60. It's just a really, really poor P.R. decision because it takes out a lot of offline or franchise type players, who like me, won't end up playing much as a result and may not come back. I would venture to guess many more people played offline and franchise than they thought. However, I'm sure their business idea is probably rooted in milking online purchases of tokens, coaches, players, etc. and probably deals with various social networking sites for tie ins, etc.

It's a shame that what was a great franchise, one of the few left, has been lost to me and so many others.

Also, the "reboot" statement is probably the closest thing to the truth we'll get, JS. That does, however, amount to highway robbery and at best, disingenuous practice by EA.

[ggsimmonds]

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Well, I can afford to not have the $60. It's just a really, really poor P.R. decision because it takes out a lot of offline or franchise type players, who like me, won't end up playing much as a result and may not come back. I would venture to guess many more people played offline and franchise than they thought. However, I'm sure their business idea is probably rooted in milking online purchases of tokens, coaches, players, etc. and probably deals with various social networking sites for tie ins, etc.

It's a shame that what was a great franchise, one of the few left, has been lost to me and so many others.

Also, the "reboot" statement is probably the closest thing to the truth we'll get, JS. That does, however, amount to highway robbery and at best, disingenuous practice by EA.

I just don't get comments like these. do you realize that CC is franchise mode? Just about everything you could do in the old mode you can do in this one. But CC is better; for years we have been crying for immersion and the news and twitter features gives us that.

It may not be called "franchise mode" but CC is the deepest franchise mode we have had since Madden 2005, and the best on this gen by far.

[js3512]

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I just don't get comments like these. do you realize that CC is franchise mode? Just about everything you could do in the old mode you can do in this one. But CC is better; for years we have been crying for immersion and the news and twitter features gives us that.

It may not be called "franchise mode" but CC is the deepest franchise mode we have had since Madden 2005, and the best on this gen by far.

Well said, and in a few years time noone will even think about franchise anymore once they phase back in all the old features and launch on the next gen platforms with what should be a solid game.

There's things I don't like about it myself but I'm not gonna sit around acting like a crybaby over it. I'm gonna find a way to enjoy the game. Everyone's so dead set on playing the game "their" way but I bet more than half of them haven't given any other way a fair shot. It's a freaking video game, have fun with it. It doesn't always have to be exactly like real life.

[JWO35]

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I just don't get comments like these. do you realize that CC is franchise mode? Just about everything you could do in the old mode you can do in this one. But CC is better; for years we have been crying for immersion and the news and twitter features gives us that.

It may not be called "franchise mode" but CC is the deepest franchise mode we have had since Madden 2005, and the best on this gen by far.

I wouldn't consider no fantasy draft, no player edits, no 2-player CC, no multi-team control, no OC/DC signing, no team relocation better...

[Airdrop01]

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If you can tell me how I can change the Chiefs playbook from the Crennel offense and his 3-4, and do things like move a DE to LB (like was done with Tamba Hali) I will be thrilled.

If you can tell me how I can erase an online CC so I can play one with the fixes, I'll be more thrilled.

As far as I can tell, if I'm playing as KC, I play with whatever the ratings EA gave the players, at whatever position they put them, and with whatever playbook they gave them. Oh, and I cannot do a draft.

How is this "pretty much the same?"

i'm serious, if you can answer these questions, i'd love it and blow kisses your way.

[TreFacTor]

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I still don't like the fact about forcing the offline gamer into the online atmosphere. Their separate and should remain that way.

[js3512]

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I still don't like the fact about forcing the offline gamer into the online atmosphere. Their separate and should remain that way.

Like it or not it's the way of the future and it's only a matter of time before all these companies will be doing the same exact thing. Mark my words.

At least this is playable offline. From what I've read, the SimCity game coming out soon for PC is totally reliant on being played online.

[ggsimmonds]

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I wouldn't consider no fantasy draft, no player edits, no 2-player CC, no multi-team control, no OC/DC signing, no team relocation better...

No fantasy draft -- admittedly I never did that so I don't care for it not being present. I realize other people may care but I don't. Franchise mode (whatever it be called) to me is about controlling an NFL team -- not a fantasy team.

no player edits -- this for me is big. Not because of equipment or anything cosmetic though. I want to be able to change positions. After Ray Lewis retires I would like to switch to a 4-3 but I can't because I can't do things like move Ngata to a DT. This hurts the "be the coach of the team" aspect
hopefully it will be patched in, but I think we will have to wait until next year.

no 2 player CC -- Well this is wrong obviously. If you mean two offline players sharing a console, I don't know how to say this nicely but...its 2012 get online. All things considered, a very small percentage of players did this anyway. It was not worth the problems.

no multi-team control -- This defeats the whole purpose of a franchise mode anyway. The purpose should be to control a team and compete against other teams.

no oc/dc signing -- This is a bummer but lets be honest, what did this add to the game last year? It may have boosted a couple of ratings for some players? It was poorly implemented and I am glad it is gone because that suggests that in the future we will get staff features similar to Head Coach implemented.

no team relocation -- this is something like icing on the cake. MLB the Show and NBA 2k are know for being the cream of the crop in sports games. do they have relocation? It would be nice if it were in but its absence hardly diminishes the game.

[ggsimmonds]

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Like it or not it's the way of the future and it's only a matter of time before all these companies will be doing the same exact thing. Mark my words.

At least this is playable offline. From what I've read, the SimCity game coming out soon for PC is totally reliant on being played online.

Now that pisses me off greatly lol. But I have read that if you wish to be in your own private region like the old games you can, you just have to be connected all the time. That sucks

[ggsimmonds]

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If you can tell me how I can change the Chiefs playbook from the Crennel offense and his 3-4, and do things like move a DE to LB (like was done with Tamba Hali) I will be thrilled.

If you can tell me how I can erase an online CC so I can play one with the fixes, I'll be more thrilled.

As far as I can tell, if I'm playing as KC, I play with whatever the ratings EA gave the players, at whatever position they put them, and with whatever playbook they gave them. Oh, and I cannot do a draft.

How is this "pretty much the same?"

i'm serious, if you can answer these questions, i'd love it and blow kisses your way.

Changing playbooks is easy. When you create your coach you select what playbook you wish to use. But you can't use custom playbooks and that sucks big time. Should be relatively simple to patch in though.

Can't change positions. That does suck. They say they are looking into a way to patch edits in but don't hold your breath.
I don't understand what you meant regarding erasing a CC.