More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and Iggy

[Thunder Storm]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

they need to get rid of overall ratings and replace it with grades or stars or something ... I just saw someone say Magic should be 97 because Pippen is 92.

so basically in 2012 there are 2K fans who STILL don't understand that the ratings are just a formula, and the overall is not relative to stardom.

[chandlerbang]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

Smh at people who thinks iggy can shoot. STOP LOOKING AT STATS.LOOK AT HIS GAME

he shot excellent last season and excellent in olympics and playoffs, if you watched philly games you would have seen his shot has become consistant. His %%%%%%%%%%% are dictated by his on court play BTW .

[stillfeelme]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

Iggy gets no respect. He was an 86 in 2K12 he went up by one in 2K13 to 87. He is not a selfish player looking to jack shots up. That is probably one of his negatives and he doesn't drive enough to get to the freethrow line. He is probably the second best passing SF in the league. I would call him the ideal 2nd tier player because he can play off the ball, play solid defense and score without plays designed for him. Denver would be a good fit for him, uptempo and he can feed other players if need be.

[youALREADYknow]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

they need to get rid of overall ratings and replace it with grades or stars or something ... I just saw someone say Magic should be 97 because Pippen is 92.

so basically in 2012 there are 2K fans who STILL don't understand that the ratings are just a formula, and the overall is not relative to stardom.

No need to remove the rating. I'd rather remove the social value of baseless opinions instead. Learn to ignore the noise unless it's backed by actual evidence.

It doesn't matter whether you use stars, grades, 25-99, or 1-10 because people will always find a way to compare and contrast. It's human nature.

[ojandpizza]

Neither has lebron

LeBron at this point is by far a better player than Pippen IMO

[ojandpizza]

I have no idea why everyone is complaining.. Those are not terrible ratings for the majority of players mentioned.. Why don't some of you stop reading stats and percentages and actually watch some damn games.. C'mon

[JwP23]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

LeBron at this point is by far a better player than Pippen IMO

His comment wasn't about one being better than the other.

[ojandpizza]

His comment wasn't about one being better than the other.

No, but the comment made before that was that Pippen isn't rated high because he wasn't a great shooter and his response was neither is LeBron..

My reply was that LeBron was a better player than Pippen, meaning that regardless of how either of them shoot LeBron does much more than Pippen to warrant the higher overall..

All in all I think Pippen is fine at the 92 overall spot.. IMO he never did anything to deserve anything too special, he's far overrated in his passing and ball handling abilities, definitely a great team defender, and all star player.. There are plenty of guys in the NBAs 50 greatest player list who would rank as low as mid 80s on a 2K game so Pippen being where he is isn't too high or too low for me..

[Colts18]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

his on court performance should be the only thing that dictates ratings. If we add in reputation, ray allen will never have a 3pt rating below 88 even if shooting 35% IRL. I cant agree bro

Think about it as if a well behaved student getting the better grade if his actual grade is between two grades. If that student is always on time and never causes a disruption and he is between a B and a C best believe he will get the B grade.

That is the same thing I am saying here. I am saying reputation should be considered. The example that you just have about Ray Allen is NOT what I said. I didn't say anything near that. Not sure where you pulled the 88 from. But if he shot 35%, that still calculates to an 80 rating which is still a solid rating. So he can be fine there.

But if he shot 20%, which would give him below a 70, I would think that his career would allow the roster maker to give him a few "bonus" points considering his history.

That is factoring on court ability.

[Colts18]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

I have no idea why everyone is complaining.. Those are not terrible ratings for the majority of players mentioned.. Why don't some of you stop reading stats and percentages and actually watch some damn games.. C'mon

So there can't exist a world where someone can be a stat head and watch games? Why is it the first comment toward someone that uses statistical evidence is watch more games. Where are you getting the impression that games aren't being watched?

[rangerrick012]

Re: More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Pippen, Love, Davis, Ellis, Waiters and I

I don't know. What about guys like Morrow and Kyle Korver who live coming off screens? I'm not saying I disagree, just want your opinion.

This is where I think having something like an open shot vs contested shot rating would factor in. I also think the ratings in general should be stretched out more, so that 89+ is only for the elite 3pt shooters, which Iggy still isn't one of. The 27th ranked 3pt shooter should not be an 89 from 3pt range.

Also the fact that they got rid of the shot off dribble rating last year and changed it to a tendency was a huge step back IMO. Hopefully they bring it back in 2K12, bc I felt like it was near perfect in 2K11 in that guys like Korver and Redick would be money coming off of screens and spotting up but could be stopped if they tried to pull up off the dribble.

I also think rep should be a factor. Guys like Korver, Novak, Mike Miller, Redick, James Jones who really are 3pt specialists and make their living from out there, should be rated higher 3pt so that they truly represent what their game is, even if their percentage may have dipped for a year.

So my problem isn't necessarily w/ Iggy in general, it's moreso with the way 2K plays in that there isn't much difference between an 89 3pt shooter and a 99 3pt shooter at times. That's what I hope they change in 2K13 by stretching out those ratings.

[Jakeness23]

That's the thing though, in his prime, Pippen was a superstar player. However, you tend to get overlooked when you're playing with someone like Jordan.

If we're going top 20 of all time, limiting it to those I've watched play, he is in the top 5, and definitely my favorite SF of all-time.

I have to agree with you man. Out of players I've actually seen Pippen is top 10, if not top 5. He is on the "official" list of 50 greatest players of all-time after all. You kind of have to be a superstar to be on that list...

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

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This is where I think having something like an open shot vs contested shot rating would factor in. I also think the ratings in general should be stretched out more, so that 89+ is only for the elite 3pt shooters, which Iggy still isn't one of. The 27th ranked 3pt shooter should not be an 89 from 3pt range.

Also the fact that they got rid of the shot off dribble rating last year and changed it to a tendency was a huge step back IMO. Hopefully they bring it back in 2K12, bc I felt like it was near perfect in 2K11 in that guys like Korver and Redick would be money coming off of screens and spotting up but could be stopped if they tried to pull up off the dribble.

I also think rep should be a factor. Guys like Korver, Novak, Mike Miller, Redick, James Jones who really are 3pt specialists and make their living from out there, should be rated higher 3pt so that they truly represent what their game is, even if their percentage may have dipped for a year.

So my problem isn't necessarily w/ Iggy in general, it's moreso with the way 2K plays in that there isn't much difference between an 89 3pt shooter and a 99 3pt shooter at times. That's what I hope they change in 2K13 by stretching out those ratings.

I agree with pretty much all of this. Hopefully, the new signature skills will help differentiate the 3pt specialists a bit more.

[ojandpizza]

So there can't exist a world where someone can be a stat head and watch games? Why is it the first comment toward someone that uses statistical evidence is watch more games. Where are you getting the impression that games aren't being watched?

With all the bogus things people are saying its pretty apparent

[Adampa1006]

With all the bogus things people are saying its pretty apparent

Example?

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