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  • Blue Ninja
    Pro
    • Aug 2011
    • 802

    #1

    *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

    Hello all you hard working slider gurus,

    I believe I have found something that is going to flip s**t regarding of creating sliders. Someone asked me what "generic sliders" was..I know what it was, but was wondering why EA would call it "generic"..So I did a little research to see if it is what I think it is.

    First I played a game(Online CCM) with All-Pro difficulty with all sliders at 50. Kick meter is normal, defensive assist button works. And then I changed the difficulty to ALL-Madden with sliders again all at 50..And what do you know, kick meter is fast and defensive assist button is disable, I see more defensive shifts/movement from CPU and CPU started playing well. Making quicker decision passing and running.

    So I came to a conclusion that "Difficulty" and "Generic sliders" work separately. Difficulty is how well CPU will play in general, and Generic sliders are just how effective they are in all aspect in general.

    Nonetheless All-madden difficulty with all 50 sliders played really nice, it still needs some tweaks but probably not as much. Please try it out yourself and let me know what you guys think. I will be re-creating a sliders set with this theory in mind.

    Thanks,

    Blue Ninja
    Last edited by Blue Ninja; 08-30-2012, 06:32 PM.
    PSN Blue_Ninja1944
    OS Madden CCM League 4th and 1
    Consultant / Founder
    M16 Sim Style Sliders by Blue Ninja
    My Twitch Stream
  • Bobalou2112
    Rookie
    • Sep 2010
    • 169

    #2
    Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

    Originally posted by Blue Ninja
    Hello all you hard working slider gurus,

    I believe I have found something that is going to flip s**t regarding of creating sliders. Someone asked me what "generic sliders" was..I know what it was, but was wondering why EA would call it "generic"..So I did a little research to see if it is what I think it is.

    First I played a game(Online CCM) with All-Pro difficulty with all sliders at 50. Kick meter is normal, defensive assist button works. And then I changed the difficulty to ALL-Madden with sliders again all at 50..And what do you know, kick meter is fast and defensive assist button is disable, I see more defensive shifts/movement from CPU and CPU started playing well. Making quicker decision passing and running.

    So I came to a conclusion that "Difficulty" and "Generic sliders" works separately. Difficulty is how well CPU will play in general, and Generic sliders are just how effective they are in all aspect in general.

    Nonetheless All-madden difficulty with all 50 sliders played really nice, it still needs some tweaks but probably not as much. Please try it out yourself and let me know what you guys think. I will be re-creating a sliders set with this theory in mind.

    Thanks,

    Blue Ninja
    Yep. I'm awaiting confirmation about this; a CM is checking into it. Sydeburnz argues it is the NCAA way of doing things (which would make sense). One thing I thought to be really odd (or maybe it was a 'one hit wonder'), as I was toying around with different slider /level combinations. . .noticed that CPU running really 'took off' when I changed level to rookie. I mean, I would expect that for the human. . .but not the CPU.

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    • SickDL
      Pro
      • Aug 2012
      • 970

      #3
      Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

      Interesting. So the same slider set can be more difficult if you set all madden first and then move the sliders then if you set them from all pro

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      • Blue Ninja
        Pro
        • Aug 2011
        • 802

        #4
        Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

        Originally posted by SickDL
        Interesting. So the same slider set can be more difficult if you set all madden first and then move the sliders then if you set them from all pro
        In theory, yes. I'm still testing.
        PSN Blue_Ninja1944
        OS Madden CCM League 4th and 1
        Consultant / Founder
        M16 Sim Style Sliders by Blue Ninja
        My Twitch Stream

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        • furrygrizzlybear
          Rookie
          • Jul 2012
          • 27

          #5
          Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

          Hmmm, I was thinking that if you adjusted the sliders those would come into effect and if it wasn't adjusted it would use the default sliders for whatever difficulty was chosen. Looks as if this isn't the case.

          I am so confused.......
          Last edited by furrygrizzlybear; 08-30-2012, 06:51 PM. Reason: additional text
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          • duhitsrandy
            Pro
            • Jul 2011
            • 728

            #6
            Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

            i had a feeling that difficulty meant more than just what slider preset was loaded at first this year.. glad to see im not crazy and people that actually do sliders came to the same conclusion

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            • JayD
              All Star
              • Mar 2004
              • 5457

              #7
              Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

              So you're saying that if you set difficulty to all madden and then tweak from there you will see a faster kick meter and better CPU play

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              • Blue Ninja
                Pro
                • Aug 2011
                • 802

                #8
                Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                Originally posted by duhitsrandy
                i had a feeling that difficulty meant more than just what slider preset was loaded at first this year.. glad to see im not crazy and people that actually do sliders came to the same conclusion
                Well I hope this will be confirmed because this'll give us more option and range to play with sliders.
                PSN Blue_Ninja1944
                OS Madden CCM League 4th and 1
                Consultant / Founder
                M16 Sim Style Sliders by Blue Ninja
                My Twitch Stream

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                • Blue Ninja
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 802

                  #9
                  Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                  Originally posted by JayD
                  So you're saying that if you set difficulty to all madden and then tweak from there you will see a faster kick meter and better CPU play
                  Exactly...
                  PSN Blue_Ninja1944
                  OS Madden CCM League 4th and 1
                  Consultant / Founder
                  M16 Sim Style Sliders by Blue Ninja
                  My Twitch Stream

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                  • ghettogeeksta
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 2632

                    #10
                    Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                    I tried All-Madden with user and cpu skills at 50, it changes the name of the skil level to Custom and it was too easy, ended up blowing the cpu out. Unless you are referring to cpu vs. cpu games.

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                    • Blue Ninja
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 802

                      #11
                      Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                      Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
                      I tried All-Madden with user and cpu skills at 50, it changes the name of the skil level to Custom and it was too easy, ended up blowing the cpu out. Unless you are referring to cpu vs. cpu games.
                      This is on Online CCM
                      PSN Blue_Ninja1944
                      OS Madden CCM League 4th and 1
                      Consultant / Founder
                      M16 Sim Style Sliders by Blue Ninja
                      My Twitch Stream

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                      • Bobalou2112
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 169

                        #12
                        Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                        Originally posted by Blue Ninja
                        This is on Online CCM
                        Offline as well.

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                        • pats3912
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 284

                          #13
                          Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                          Blue ninja I think your 100% correct with this. I tried to explain that the sliders in online CCM don't work the same as in last years madden. I noticed this when I set my sliders to an all pro setting but had my default at all madden and the kick meter would still go fast. I tried to explain this on anorher thread but wasnt getting any feedback. I was having the same issues with the CPU and I started to notice better results with some sliders as I lowered them closer to 50. Just saw this thread and decided to put everything at 50. Wow! It plays just like the demo, even better. I had to restart my game a few times to be sure it wasn't a fluke. It's not, running game and even the passing game is so much better. I'm glad you guys are seeing this as well. I though I was the only one. Can't wait to see your adjusted slider sets.

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                          • raiderphantom
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1537

                            #14
                            Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                            All madden default sliders in online ccm is way too easy. I just moved it up to play Pitt (I'm oak if you didn't read my username lol) I just got 10 sacks(6 from L Houston), Pitt had 40 yards of offense. I couldn't run the ball but I threw for 300. 6 min qtrs 20 sec accel clock. (yeah I know it's short, real short)
                            Student of the game. #Fundamentals

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                            • Stafford2Johnson
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 128

                              #15
                              Re: *Attention all slider gurus.Please read.

                              Ninja you bastard I just loaded your set earlier today planning to play some games tonight and now this!
                              "Good, better, best. Never let it rest. Until your good is better and your better is best." ~Tim Duncan~

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