NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 81

[ojandpizza]

I don't see where guys like Rose, CP3, Rondo, Westbrook should be rated higher overalls than Deron Williams. The only way I see that being possible at all is if the athletic attributes play a HUGE role in overalls.. As far as being an all around PG he's better than all of them..

[iLLosophy]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

What has Deron Williams done in his career (let alone in his past 2 years) to be viewed better than CP3?

[LouYorkCity]

Nothing out there supports that Bynum is a better offensive player than Dwight Howard. Is he more polished in the post? Yes, but so is Al Jefferson. Doesnt make him better.

Bynum played 66 games, was the 2nd option on team
MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
35.2 0.558 0.200 0.692 3.2 8.6 11.8 1.4 0.4 1.9 2.5 1.7 18.7

Dwight played 54 games, was the 1st option on team
MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
38.3 0.573 0.000 0.491 3.7 10.8 14.5 1.9 1.5 2.2 3.2 2.9 20.6

Jefferson played 61 games. Was the 1st option on team.
MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
34.0 0.492 0.250 0.774 2.2 7.4 9.6 2.2 0.8 1.7 1.0 2.5 19.2

Notice how even with Kobe and Gasol on his team, he managed to put up similar PPG, rebound better than Jefferson with another 7 footer on his team and shoot a better percentage from the floor than Al jefferson and slightly less than Dwight. Let us not forget that Dwight scores most of his points under basket or from oops because he has a weak post game.

Bynum played behind a future hall of famer and a great big and yet he still puts up similar numbers to Dwight.

Listen, I am by NOOOOO means a Laker fan or Philly fan, but that kid Bynum is really under rated when compared to Dwight.

Watch this video, they brought up good points about both. I honestly prefer Bynum.

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[kmiree16]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

What has Deron Williams done in his career (let alone in his past 2 years) to be viewed better than CP3?

D Will was pretty good in Utah. If anything I'll say they're at best equal with CP3 having a slight edge.

[ojandpizza]

What has Deron Williams done in his career (let alone in his past 2 years) to be viewed better than CP3?

Offensively not a lot really, maybe slightly better at getting to the hole and finishing due to being bigger as stronger.. But he's a little better defensively and is much more versatile defensively due to his size and strength..

I mean if you're judging by there skill set and stats or whatever they are pretty much even and should have very similar ratings.. But it's the little things I think Deron should have the edge in, which I think would give him a better overall

[ojandpizza]

This past season really hurt how people view Deron, I'm hoping now that he has what should be a good team again he will bounce back to his PG supremacy... He had he worst year this past season due to having to take more shots, his FG% dropped, shot numbers up to high, and assist numbers down.. Before that he was actually considered the top PG in the NBA by both ESPN and NBA.com

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

Bynum played 66 games, was the 2nd option on team
MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
35.2 0.558 0.200 0.692 3.2 8.6 11.8 1.4 0.4 1.9 2.5 1.7 18.7

Dwight played 54 games, was the 1st option on team
MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
38.3 0.573 0.000 0.491 3.7 10.8 14.5 1.9 1.5 2.2 3.2 2.9 20.6

Jefferson played 61 games. Was the 1st option on team.
MPG FG% 3p% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
34.0 0.492 0.250 0.774 2.2 7.4 9.6 2.2 0.8 1.7 1.0 2.5 19.2

Notice how even with Kobe and Gasol on his team, he managed to put up similar PPG, rebound better than Jefferson with another 7 footer on his team and shoot a better percentage from the floor than Al jefferson and slightly less than Dwight. Let us not forget that Dwight scores most of his points under basket or from oops because he has a weak post game.

Bynum played behind a future hall of famer and a great big and yet he still puts up similar numbers to Dwight.

Listen, I am by NOOOOO means a Laker fan or Philly fan, but that kid Bynum is really under rated when compared to Dwight.

Watch this video, they brought up good points about both. I honestly prefer Bynum.

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Well your analysis is missing alot. First off playing with Kobe and Gasol makes things alot easier for Bynum. When Kobe missed those 6-7 games this year Bynum's PPG went up slightly but his FG% suffered due to teams not having to account for Kobe. What teams are keying in on Jason Richardson that way? Also if you use Synergy it will show you that Dwight is 2nd overall in Pick and Roll finishing efficiency at 74% and Bynum is 57% which is about avg for a big man. They are roughly equal on post up looks and we arent even going to discuss defense because we all know the difference is night and day between the two. Also the 3rd option excuse is moot because 3rd options arent the main focus for defenses and both guys avg the same amount of FGs a game. Only thing Bynum has on Dwight is FT shooting.

[iLLosophy]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

I guess man. Nothing about Deron's defense jumps out at me. CP3 always gets knocked because he's smaller but his IQ is much much higher.

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

Another thing, never use a video from First Take to back up anything sports related. That program is a sideshow that is 90 percent entertainment. Very little substance.

[ojandpizza]

I guess man. Nothing about Deron's defense jumps out at me. CP3 always gets knocked because he's smaller but his IQ is much much higher.

He does have a great IQ I think they both due.. And CP3 also has great steal numbers. I'm just looking at it from a match up stand point.. Deron is very versatile defensively like a Rondo or Billups type of player... You can't go wrong with either of the two.. But everybody here seems to think D Rose should be way up there.. If you don't take Deron you take CP3, they're easily the top 2 in my book

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

CP3 is a much better on ball defender than Dwill. Dwill's on ball defense is around the same as Steve Nash. Funny thing Nash is actually better against PnR looks than Dwill is.

[JwP23]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

Seeing a couple sets of ratings I can predict the overall ratings will be for the other stars.
LBJ 99 Obviously
D12 -94
Cp3- 95
Westbrook 93
D-rose 92
D-wade- 93
D-Will- 91

I am not saying that I think these guys deserves those ratings just my prediction on how 2k will rate them.

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

He does have a great IQ I think they both due.. And CP3 also has great steal numbers. I'm just looking at it from a match up stand point.. Deron is very versatile defensively like a Rondo or Billups type of player... You can't go wrong with either of the two.. But everybody here seems to think D Rose should be way up there.. If you don't take Deron you take CP3, they're easily the top 2 in my book

DWill is no where near the defensive player that CP3, Westbrook and Rondo are. He's a great shooter and offensive player and is stronger than most point guards, however, CP3's assist/defense/steals and Westbrook's athleticism/scoring/steals should give those two the edge in overall ratings- by a point or two. Still, all great players.

[ojandpizza]

DWill is no where near the defensive player that CP3, Westbrook and Rondo are. He's a great shooter and offensive player and is stronger than most point guards, however, CP3's assist/defense/steals and Westbrook's athleticism/scoring/steals should give those two the edge in overall ratings- by a point or two. Still, all great players.

Dude steal numbers don't equal great on ball defense.. Steal number more reflect quick hands.. The same reason a player like AI always had impressive steal numbers.. You're gonna tell me he was a great defensive player too???

I never said anything negative about CP3, Westbrook, or Rondos defense???....I said Deron was more versatile defensively than CP3.. And CP3 and Deron have almost identical assist stats over their career so giving CP the esge doesnt make sense, especially since he has been dishing off to far better teammates...

and Westbrook should in no way be above either of them.. He shouldn't even be above Rondo.. Do you even know what a PG I supposed to do??? It sure as hell isn't jack up 20+ shots per game and gamble around all over on defense, taking shots early in the shot clock and not getting your team into a flow early in games.. As far as being an overall player yeah Westbrook is a stud, as far as being a PG he still needs a lot of work

The only edge he has over any of them is his athletic ability, which should never automatically give you a higher overall.. Not to mention D Will has been on a horrible team this past year while Westbrook and CP3 have had the luxury of playing on really good playoff teams.

Deron is by far the most versatile player offensively of all the PGs.. He can hit the 3s like CP3, get to the hole as well as Rondo, or Rose.. Nail the pull up as well as Westbrook all while playing under control and smart much like CP3 does.. he passes as well as CP3, while I would have Rondo slightly ahead of them both in that department..

. Don't let one off year hurt Deron's legacy.. Like I said ESPN and NBA.com both had him rated as the top PG in the league, even back when CP3 was making a run at the MVP award, and Steve Nash was still very impressive.. I guess they were wrong too?

[DamnYanks2]

Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8

I'm a Kentucky fan so to give some more info on MKG. The guy is everything you would want in a SG/SF but he just needs to develop a jumper that has some consistency. If he does that...he is an all-star, if he gets a jumper eventually that is good or better consistently...watch out. He is a great athlete and I honestly feel if he gets the jumper he could be the best UK player in the NBA long term, over Davis, over Wall, over Cousins. I know, strong words but I watched that team play every game last year and MKG drove that team to excellence. When he played well that took that team to a whole another level last year in the NCAA Tourney.

Yep, same here, I watched him play alot of games with Kentucky, and he very well could be a guy for the Bobcats to build a team around. He's a team first guy, this guy could fill it up offensively, but he was fine with sharing the load, and if he isn't scoring he's doing other things to help his team out, He prides himself on defense, and he will grab those boards.

He needs to change his jumpshot's release, it has a hitch in it, and right now it is spotty. But he takes contact on shot's like Lebron, and is extremely athletic. Bobcats fans will fall in love with this guy. 78 is fair, but I don't think it's a stretch to say by 2k15, he'll be in the 90's.