NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 81
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
I don´t agree with giving rating to players based on the numbers they get.
For example, before Lin exploded, he was unusable on the game. After linsanity, he gets faster, better dribbling, better pass, better awareness.... attributes that the player, in real life, had already before Linsanity.
Same thing with Lance Stephenson. The guy didn´t play last year and he is completely unusable in 2k12. Even though he is mad quick and has great dribbles... his ratings in those 2 attributes are very low.
Now that Bynum is going to get more shots, will he get better ratings in shooting, rebounding, etc..? It doesn´t make sense to me.Last edited by setis; 09-01-2012, 02:36 PM.Comment
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
LeBron can be 99 all he wants but as I said before ... if he is 99, it doesn't matter. That just his overall as a player, his value and prestige in the league. If he is 99, will he be better than Michael Jordan 99 OVR? In some areas he is better than Michael, in other areas Michael is better than him. Both warrant a 99 overall. It is like having two 65 overall players. Both 65 overall, but both completely different. One might be a Rebounding Specialist, the other a 3 Point Shooter. Do not let the overall ratings get to your head. Just pretend that number doesn't exist. They need to remove the rating in favor of A+, A, A-, B+, B, B-, C, etc. LeBron no doubt is an A+ overall (96-99) as Kobe is an A overall (93-95) or whatever scale they tend to use.
The number should be changed to a letter grade and let the CPU have it hidden as a number to distinguish the rotations for CPU controlled teams.Comment
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
It actually sounds like a good idea.
but then people like you wouldn't have much to complain about anymore.
"OMG why is Joel Anthony a 62 and Eddy Curry a 64 ?!?, he doesn't even start !!!"
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
It should be capped at a certain overall for D- ... like for Scalabrine, 40 OVR can be a D- because realistically, an F rated player would not be in the NBA.Comment
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
Dude steal numbers don't equal great on ball defense.. Steal number more reflect quick hands.. The same reason a player like AI always had impressive steal numbers.. You're gonna tell me he was a great defensive player too???
I never said anything negative about CP3, Westbrook, or Rondos defense???....I said Deron was more versatile defensively than CP3.. And CP3 and Deron have almost identical assist stats over their career so giving CP the esge doesnt make sense, especially since he has been dishing off to far better teammates...
and Westbrook should in no way be above either of them.. He shouldn't even be above Rondo.. Do you even know what a PG I supposed to do??? It sure as hell isn't jack up 20+ shots per game and gamble around all over on defense, taking shots early in the shot clock and not getting your team into a flow early in games.. As far as being an overall player yeah Westbrook is a stud, as far as being a PG he still needs a lot of work
The only edge he has over any of them is his athletic ability, which should never automatically give you a higher overall.. Not to mention D Will has been on a horrible team this past year while Westbrook and CP3 have had the luxury of playing on really good playoff teams.
Deron is by far the most versatile player offensively of all the PGs.. He can hit the 3s like CP3, get to the hole as well as Rondo, or Rose.. Nail the pull up as well as Westbrook all while playing under control and smart much like CP3 does.. he passes as well as CP3, while I would have Rondo slightly ahead of them both in that department..
. Don't let one off year hurt Deron's legacy.. Like I said ESPN and NBA.com both had him rated as the top PG in the league, even back when CP3 was making a run at the MVP award, and Steve Nash was still very impressive.. I guess they were wrong too?
(1) I keep hearing people complaining that he's "not a real point guard" cause he shoots too much or drives too much or doesn't pass enough, as that's not what point guards are supposed to do. Well, "point guard" is just a label to fit players into definable roles. Once they're on the court, it's just basketball. Westbrook transcends his position, as he is on his own planet in terms of explosiveness and athletic ability. He shouldn't be penalized because he plays the position differently, he should be rewarded because he plays it in ways other point guards cannot. Similarly, Power Forwards are not, traditionally, supposed to be jump-shooting scorers and 3pt specialists, yet Dirk became one of the best players ever doing just that. He transcended the position (and really changed it forever).
(2) The whole, "so-and-so was playing on a better team so he had better players that made it easier for him" argument is incredibly short-sighted. One of the main reasons OKC is a great team is BECAUSE Westbrook is on the team. They're not two exclusive things. (Same with CP3 making the Clippers into a playoff team- it's because he's so great.) The fact that Westbrook can put up such big numbers while playing alongside another, more prolific scorer should prove that he is, in fact, even better than his numbers suggest. The same way Bosh's numbers went down when Wade/LeBron get all the shots (and Wade's numbers went down alongside LeBron, etc), should make numbers that Westbrook puts up along side Durant even more impressive.
Again, DWill is great. He should get a 90-91 rating. However, I personally believe that Westbrook has certain skills outside of shooting and passing that are better and will make him just as good (if not slightly better) in terms of overall rating. I could see them both at 91 to be honest. CP3 will (and should) be slightly better rated than both, even though DWill will be a better scorer.
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
Anyone want to take a guess on what Chris Bosh will be rated?Comment
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
Well, Griffin is now an 86, Love is an 89. I think Bosh deserves to be between them, but it depends on how much 2k bases on stats. Bosh's stats are hurt by having two dominant players on his team. I think he deserves an 87, but I feel he will get less, maybe an 84 or 85.
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
Im a troll for stating a fact , but your opinion ( which is completley inaccurate and even a pacers fan will admit it ) makes you not? Must be a sour bobcats fan. Sorry about that. Sorry for being excited to have the best center in the east land on my team that has struggled since iverson left. Ill try to tone it down so that im not trolling. And please , continue to act like every player in the league hasnt gotten hurt.76ers and Eagles
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Arguing over who is better among these point guards is kind of ridiculous, as they are all top tier, all-star level guards who will all be up around 90-94. However, I do have a couple general points to bring up in regards to Westbrook:
(1) I keep hearing people complaining that he's "not a real point guard" cause he shoots too much or drives too much or doesn't pass enough, as that's not what point guards are supposed to do. Well, "point guard" is just a label to fit players into definable roles. Once they're on the court, it's just basketball. Westbrook transcends his position, as he is on his own planet in terms of explosiveness and athletic ability. He shouldn't be penalized because he plays the position differently, he should be rewarded because he plays it in ways other point guards cannot. Similarly, Power Forwards are not, traditionally, supposed to be jump-shooting scorers and 3pt specialists, yet Dirk became one of the best players ever doing just that. He transcended the position (and really changed it forever).
(2) The whole, "so-and-so was playing on a better team so he had better players that made it easier for him" argument is incredibly short-sighted. One of the main reasons OKC is a great team is BECAUSE Westbrook is on the team. They're not two exclusive things. (Same with CP3 making the Clippers into a playoff team- it's because he's so great.) The fact that Westbrook can put up such big numbers while playing alongside another, more prolific scorer should prove that he is, in fact, even better than his numbers suggest. The same way Bosh's numbers went down when Wade/LeBron get all the shots (and Wade's numbers went down alongside LeBron, etc), should make numbers that Westbrook puts up along side Durant even more impressive.
Again, DWill is great. He should get a 90-91 rating. However, I personally believe that Westbrook has certain skills outside of shooting and passing that are better and will make him just as good (if not slightly better) in terms of overall rating. I could see them both at 91 to be honest. CP3 will (and should) be slightly better rated than both, even though DWill will be a better scorer.
And I'm not trying to knock Westbrook for playing the game differently, I like watching him, he's exciting.. But as far as how ratings work on 2K PGs get a bigger bump for things like passing, ball handling, steals, stuff like that.. When finishing above the rim and knocking down pull ups effect ratings then I will see Westbrook getting a higher overall.. With Williams being a better shooter than either of them, and his passing being close to CP3's and higher than Westbrooks, It just seems fit to me that his rating should be just as high if not a point or so higher.. There ball handling I assume will all be similar, all play alright defenseComment
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Re: NBA 2K13 Player Ratings - Andrew Bynum - 87, Kidd-Gilchrist -78, Tyreke Evans - 8
MKG is 78! Ok now that's a good building block.The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.Comment
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