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  • Leftos
    NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
    • Oct 2010
    • 1255

    #16
    Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

    I love how people like LD2k retweet those videos, that wouldn't be possible without the game being on PC and with all the modding community on sites like NLSC (guess where Ultimate Base Roster comes together), yet PC remains a second-class citizen, getting a patch in March, crashes that 2K won't even acknowledge or help with, dreadful online.

    If you like the work that we can do with your game 2K, help us dammit! Give us a game that's equal to its console counterparts, don't care if you match the price. Give us proper support, give us patches on time, give us DLC.

    I'm not expecting an SDK due to licensing issues, nobody from 2K would ever acknowledge UBR even exists, because they haven't paid for these teams to be in the game. That's what makes modding NBA 2K different from modding games like Skyrim. Bethesda doesn't care about licenses, it's its own property. 2K uses the NBA license, however.

    But just imagine what we could do if 2K treated the PC version equally, and if it made it easier for us to mod it. -sigh- Never gonna happen.
    Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
    NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
    Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
    Novato, CA, USA

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    • Caveman24
      MVP
      • Jul 2011
      • 1352

      #17
      great video
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      • ekferio
        Rookie
        • Mar 2007
        • 269

        #18
        Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

        wish my computer is fast enough to run it =c Kobe looks odd with so much facial hair

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        • StankonYa
          Pro
          • Sep 2006
          • 908

          #19
          Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

          Great video...nba 2k on pc rocks.

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          • regroc88
            Rookie
            • Jul 2012
            • 28

            #20
            Sick just freakin SSSSSSick!!!! haha Yall stop Hatin!! cuz ya wastin ya Time!!! Sick Vid shady

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            • TheBrooklynBaller
              Rookie
              • Aug 2012
              • 31

              #21
              Nice... 2K13 gonna have some sick teams this year.

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              • Da_Czar
                NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                • Jul 2002
                • 5408

                #22
                Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

                Originally posted by Leftos
                I love how people like LD2k retweet those videos, that wouldn't be possible without the game being on PC and with all the modding community on sites like NLSC (guess where Ultimate Base Roster comes together), yet PC remains a second-class citizen, getting a patch in March, crashes that 2K won't even acknowledge or help with, dreadful online.

                If you like the work that we can do with your game 2K, help us dammit! Give us a game that's equal to its console counterparts, don't care if you match the price. Give us proper support, give us patches on time, give us DLC.

                I'm not expecting an SDK due to licensing issues, nobody from 2K would ever acknowledge UBR even exists, because they haven't paid for these teams to be in the game. That's what makes modding NBA 2K different from modding games like Skyrim. Bethesda doesn't care about licenses, it's its own property. 2K uses the NBA license, however.

                But just imagine what we could do if 2K treated the PC version equally, and if it made it easier for us to mod it. -sigh- Never gonna happen.
                Great vid by Shady. Just as a by the way I have been talking to them about the pc version and it popularity and that I think more people would purchase it it it were patched in a timely manner.

                So I have made them aware of the pains. Have not idea if it will change but i spoke up early and often about it. I can't go into the response but I am hopeful they find a way to get the pc more love. It is bad mojo to talk to a dev about modding however so that doesn't help our argument
                Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                • Leftos
                  NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 1255

                  #23
                  Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

                  A dev that's bound to a restrictive license can't embrace modding, I understand that. That's why I made the comparison to Skyrim, where the devs embrace modding and give the modders all the tools and support they need.

                  I'm sure 2K is aware of what goes on in the modding communities. I'm sure they're aware of Ultimate Base Roster for example. And I'm pretty positive they'd like to make that a selling point for PC users, but it's not their call to make.

                  I'm just here doing my wishful thinking Czar. I'm not expecting things to change modding-wise, or for 2K devs to acknowledge modders and their work publicly.

                  Just give us PC users some love, since modding just keeps giving people incentive to buy the game long after console sales have died down. Can't imagine how many units were sold after Ultimate Base Roster gained traction, and how many users bought a second copy on PC after having the game on a console, just to experience the full capabilities of the game that can only be brought out by modding.

                  You don't have to acknowledge our work, but we're doing more work than you could ever do, and we're doing it for free, and we're getting you sales, and the only thing we're asking in return, is to be an equal citizen of the franchise.

                  Is that too much to ask?

                  P.S. By the way, Czar, no offense but if it's such bad mojo to talk to a developer about modding, I'm guessing LD2k is breaking many of 2K's devs' hearts by retweeting all the videos that Shady made that were using a mod.

                  It shouldn't be bad mojo if you ask me. 2K devs should be proud to have such dedicated communities keeping the game fresh and getting them sales. They can't embrace it publicly for all the reasons I already mentioned, but come on, bad mojo?
                  Last edited by Leftos; 09-01-2012, 06:35 PM. Reason: Added P.S. about bad mojo
                  Eleftherios "Leftos" Aslanoglou
                  NBA 2K AI Software Engineer
                  Visual Concepts Entertainment / 2K Sports
                  Novato, CA, USA

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                  • Drewski
                    Basketball Reasons
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 3783

                    #24
                    Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

                    That was awesome, even got ol' boy Duhon in on the fun.

                    Great stuff! Can't wait for the season.
                    Follow me on Twitter@DrewGarrisonSBN

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                    • texasgmr
                      Rookie
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 338

                      #25
                      You never fail to deliver a great piece! Well done my man. Well done!

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                      • comen
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 90

                        #26
                        Nice vid!! But one thing Im kind of concerned about is the depth of the NBA lol! If we all had to pick who would be in the NBA finals, there is like 4 teams that have a shot at it!! I love basketball but when you already know who will be there at the end kinda stinks! Its like when I grew up in the early 90s, I always knew who was going to win the finals (MJ) so it took something away. But the video is great and looking forward to seeing more of this game!!

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                        • VinnyVegas28
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 842

                          #27
                          Absolutely Amazing!!! Great job once again Shady. If I could get my computer to run 2K like this, I am done!

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                          • Marc_Rez
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 349

                            #28
                            Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

                            Nice vid! But no love for Dwight Howard as a Nets fan!

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                            • strobox88
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 429

                              #29
                              Re: NBA 2K12 Video - The New Look Lakers (Shady00018)

                              Just to let anyone who doesn't own the PC version know, the vanilla PC version doesn't look like this. On top of the Ultimate Base Roster, he's also using some shadow mods and other mods like progressive sweat and stuff.

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                              • letsbefrank
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 74

                                #30
                                Shady never disappoints quality video!
                                @_letsbefrank_

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