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  • jf28
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 118

    #1

    Ratings changing in game?

    I haven't followed this Madden at all pre-release. I'm a little bit lost as to something happening in this game. When I look at my depth chart before a game, I have different ratings than I do in game. For example, Joe McKnight goes from being my 4th best RB to my 2nd best. Could somebody explain why this is?
  • CSL
    Pro
    • Aug 2009
    • 628

    #2
    Re: Ratings changing in game?

    ratings adjust accordingly to how well the player fits into the current scheme
    Yeah.

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    • jf28
      Rookie
      • Mar 2009
      • 118

      #3
      Re: Ratings changing in game?

      Ah, cool. Thanks!

      Follow up, do size and production grades actually do anything?



      Also, is there any way to see their ratings in my scheme BEFORE I'm in a game?



      Edit: One more thing: Is the in-game rating the one that shows how they fit my scheme, or the one on the roster page?
      Last edited by jf28; 09-01-2012, 05:13 PM.

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      • ggsimmonds
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jan 2009
        • 11235

        #4
        Re: Ratings changing in game?

        Originally posted by jf28
        Ah, cool. Thanks!

        Follow up, do size and production grades actually do anything?



        Also, is there any way to see their ratings in my scheme BEFORE I'm in a game?



        Edit: One more thing: Is the in-game rating the one that shows how they fit my scheme, or the one on the roster page?
        The other poster is actually wrong. The ratings change in that situation either due to DPP or a bug. It depends on how big the change is.

        Maybe that poster is not 100% wrong and it is a bug that has to do with schemes. You are saying that within the CC roster screen your players are rated one way, and then when you play a game and go into depth chart from there the ratings change? It could be a bug that does not take scheme into account once in a game (if you understand what I am saying).

        Are the ratings from within the game the same ratings from the front end rosters?

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        • jf28
          Rookie
          • Mar 2009
          • 118

          #5
          Re: Ratings changing in game?

          Originally posted by ggsimmonds
          The other poster is actually wrong. The ratings change in that situation either due to DPP or a bug. It depends on how big the change is.

          Maybe that poster is not 100% wrong and it is a bug that has to do with schemes. You are saying that within the CC roster screen your players are rated one way, and then when you play a game and go into depth chart from there the ratings change? It could be a bug that does not take scheme into account once in a game (if you understand what I am saying).

          Are the ratings from within the game the same ratings from the front end rosters?
          Just using these guys for convenience

          On the main roster page:
          Shonn Greene - 82
          Joe McKnight - 73
          Bilal Powell - 68
          Terrence Ganaway - 61

          On the CC roster page:
          Shonn Greene - 86
          Ganaway - 71
          Powell - 69
          McKinght - 58

          In game:
          Same as the main roster

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          • ggsimmonds
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2009
            • 11235

            #6
            Re: Ratings changing in game?

            Originally posted by jf28
            Just using these guys for convenience

            On the main roster page:
            Shonn Greene - 82
            Joe McKnight - 73
            Bilal Powell - 68
            Terrence Ganaway - 61

            On the CC roster page:
            Shonn Greene - 86
            Ganaway - 71
            Powell - 69
            McKinght - 58

            In game:
            Same as the main roster
            Then yes it is a bug. Within the game it is not taking scheme into account. Nothing to worry about its just cosmetic; it won't affect how they play or anything

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            • method29
              Rookie
              • Aug 2012
              • 80

              #7
              Re: Ratings changing in game?

              Originally posted by jf28
              Just using these guys for convenience

              On the main roster page:
              Shonn Greene - 82
              Joe McKnight - 73
              Bilal Powell - 68
              Terrence Ganaway - 61

              On the CC roster page:
              Shonn Greene - 86
              Ganaway - 71
              Powell - 69
              McKinght - 58

              In game:
              Same as the main roster
              It is because of hot/cold streaks and fatigue. Shonn Greene probably is tired or has been struggling a bit while Joe Mcknight probably had a big run/screen play or kick return to light a fire under him.

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              • ggsimmonds
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jan 2009
                • 11235

                #8
                Re: Ratings changing in game?

                Originally posted by method29
                It is because of hot/cold streaks and fatigue. Shonn Greene probably is tired or has been struggling a bit while Joe Mcknight probably had a big run/screen play or kick return to light a fire under him.
                No its not. Ratings from the depth chart within a game are the same ratings as the front end rosters. It is not taking scheme into account and just reporting the "baseline" overall

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                • method29
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 80

                  #9
                  Re: Ratings changing in game?

                  Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                  No its not. Ratings from the depth chart within a game are the same ratings as the front end rosters. It is not taking scheme into account and just reporting the "baseline" overall
                  My in game ratings fluctuate from game to game with all players, including the drafted rookies.

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                  • ggsimmonds
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 11235

                    #10
                    Re: Ratings changing in game?

                    Originally posted by method29
                    My in game ratings fluctuate from game to game with all players, including the drafted rookies.
                    I know they do. But at the start of the game check your ratings. They are identical to a player's base roster ratings. Then throughout the game they fluctuate.

                    To test it I did this (controlling the Ravens)
                    I changed my DE schemes to 4-3 speed rushers. Obviously Ngata is not a speed rusher, so his overall dropped to a 78. I then started a game and checked my depth chart. Ngata shows up as a 97 ovr. Wanna guess what his overall is under default rosters?

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                    • method29
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 80

                      #11
                      Re: Ratings changing in game?

                      Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                      I know they do. But at the start of the game check your ratings. They are identical to a player's base roster ratings. Then throughout the game they fluctuate.

                      To test it I did this (controlling the Ravens)
                      I changed my DE schemes to 4-3 speed rushers. Obviously Ngata is not a speed rusher, so his overall dropped to a 78. I then started a game and checked my depth chart. Ngata shows up as a 97 ovr. Wanna guess what his overall is under default rosters?
                      Yes, scheme isn't taken into account during the game of course. However, my player's ratings don't always match up to their default roster rating. Whether it is before the game, during, or after, they don't match the default rating.

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                      • ggsimmonds
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 11235

                        #12
                        Re: Ratings changing in game?

                        Originally posted by method29
                        Yes, scheme isn't taken into account during the game of course. However, my player's ratings don't always match up to their default roster rating. Whether it is before the game, during, or after, they don't match the default rating.
                        I know that. From my earlier post:
                        The ratings change in that situation either due to DPP or a bug. It depends on how big the change is.

                        Overalls change due to DPP, but in his case it is the result of a bug

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                        • method29
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 80

                          #13
                          Re: Ratings changing in game?

                          Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                          I know that. From my earlier post:
                          The ratings change in that situation either due to DPP or a bug. It depends on how big the change is.

                          Overalls change due to DPP, but in his case it is the result of a bug
                          What does DPP stand for?

                          My changes are usually 1-5 overall points. Occasionally I'll have a guy who is rated very low that will go up 10-15 points if he is on a hot streak.

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                          • bichettehappens
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 2547

                            #14
                            Re: Ratings changing in game?

                            If his ratings on the important individual attributes are the same, I wouldn't be concerned about it. Overall rating is mostly cosmetic I believe. But check on the individual ratings to be sure.

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                            • ggsimmonds
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11235

                              #15
                              Re: Ratings changing in game?

                              Originally posted by method29
                              What does DPP stand for?

                              My changes are usually 1-5 overall points. Occasionally I'll have a guy who is rated very low that will go up 10-15 points if he is on a hot streak.
                              Dynamic player performance.

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