NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

[Boilerbuzz]

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Once again, there's no proof that any single player alone makes his teammates better defensively. None.

None except actual PLAYERS calling out teammates that are their defensive MVPs or "anchors". But what do players know, right? Ask ANY Houston Rocket what Hakeem did for them defensively.

And what does changing your shot selection have to do with shooting attributes, which is what the Eraser affects?

It's called shooting in RHYTHM! Do you just want to bitch about this because it sounds like you're not even TRYING to see where they were going with this. If you think it's contrived, that's fine. I can see that. But it plays on ideologies that many people believe in the game of basketball.

[Colts18]

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Do you really think that they didn't take care to not make a redundant skill? And, again, tendencies drive the behaviors - they are not ratings. They are the likelihood that you DO an action. Not the chance at succeeding in that action. Just because I guy does something a lot doesn't make him good at it. You get what I'm saying?

So you really don't understand that the Clutch Rating serves the same purpose of the Clutch Sig Skill?

That Skill isn't redundant?

[Ceothachosen1]

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Someone who has shot creator and ankle breaker is gonna be VERY hard to defender without a lock down defender this year

as they should be

[RyanFitzmagic]

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None except actual PLAYERS calling out teammates that are their defensive MVPs or "anchors". But what do players know, right? Ask ANY Houston Rocket what Hakeem did for them defensively.

Just like what Dwight does for Orlando, right?

Nobody said defensive anchors don't exist. But they don't do what 2K thinks they do.

It's called shooting in RHYTHM! Do you just want to bitch about this because it sounds like you're not even TRYING to see where they were going with this. If you think it's contrived, that's fine. I can see that. But it plays on ideologies that many people believe in the game of basketball.

What in the HELL does interior shot-blocking have to do with shooting in rhythm from the perimeter?

[Da_Czar]

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Once again, there's no proof that any single player alone makes his teammates better defensively. None.



And what does changing your shot selection have to do with shooting attributes, which is what the Eraser affects?

These are quite simply an attempt to cover more of the intangibles in the sport. To make it worth putting player x in over player y. With all things let's get it and see what works and what doesn't and deliver the appropriate feedback.

NOBODY likes getting their shot smacked on national television. While not every player takes a mental break afterwards there are some that do on every level. It's a gameplay mechanic. So as an opponent knowing what the consequence is maybe I don't shoot that contested layup in the paint because I am aware of the consequences of a blocked shot so I pass out... All of the sudden we have a passive instance of shot blocker intimidation inserted into the gameplay.... That to me is progress. It's chess.. It's basketball.

So times I think we get so deep in the forest we can't see the darn trees.

Even if you were correct that a defensive anchor does not make his team defense better ( replace chandler with white mamba) Most times guys in here CRY for balance. Well the offense has floor general so now the defense has defensive anchor.

[RyanFitzmagic]

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These are quite simply an attempt to cover more of the intangibles in the sport. To make it worth putting player x in over player y. With all things let's get it and see what works and what doesn't and deliver the appropriate feedback.

NOBODY likes getting their shot smacked on national television. While not every player takes a mental break afterwards there are some that do on every level. It's a gameplay mechanic. So as an opponent knowing what the consequence is maybe I don't shoot that contested layup in the paint because I am aware of the consequences of a blocked shot so I pass out... All of the sudden we have a passive instance of shot blocker intimidation inserted into the gameplay.... That to me is progress. It's chess.. It's basketball.

Wouldn't a shooter normally be deterred by a shot-blocker simply because the shot will be blocked, and not because some supernatural, Space-Jam talent decrease will occur as a result?

[FLAWDAxBALLA954]

Disgusting. Immature. Childish.

You must get your ankles broken alot

[mymannemcee]

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Exactly.

Maybe a Czar post is what's needed to bring some insight in here, sheesh.

[J_Posse]

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Once again, there's no proof that any single player alone makes his teammates better defensively. None.



And what does changing your shot selection have to do with shooting attributes, which is what the Eraser affects?

I know for a fact that a in his prime Tim Duncan made the Spurs a better defensive team. With his gradual slip defensively, mostly in pick-n-roll defense, the team has seen an equal slip down the rankings. Coach Popovich uses many of the same tactics, funneling ball-handlers baseline, but they aren't as effective without an elite defensive bigman.

A guy like Ibaka, Howard or McGee can get in the opponents' head altering decision making. Guys are hesitant to go into the paint or settle for ill-advised jumpshots. The game is just attempting to recreate that effect.

I like all of the signature skills and hope 2K continues to refine them and add more. They're are alot of tangible and intangible aspects of the game that ratings and tendencies don't recreate, now with skills we can see those aspects realized.

Kudos, 2K Sports.

[DatGD12guage]

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What the hell are you trying to say? 2K thinks that players alone can make defenders around them better. I've proven that this isn't true.



Woodson came to the Knicks and they got better defensively, and when he became head coach, they improved even MORE. Yeah, I'm sure that's a coincidence.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2010.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2011.html

Look at Defensive Efficiency. The Mavs did not get that much better with Chandler. They have good defensive coaching. They were better with MF-ing Erick Dampier than they were with Chandler.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DAL/2007.html

Who's ignorant now?



What happened to Dallas? They were 8th in Defensive Efficiency with Chandler in 2011, and 8th without him in 2012.

Keep telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. It's amusing.

Got damit ryan who did the Mavs win a championship with because of defense?

[RyanFitzmagic]

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I know for a fact that a in his prime Tim Duncan made the Spurs a better defensive team. With his gradual slip defensively, mostly in pick-n-roll defense, the team has seen an equal slip down the rankings. Coach Popovich uses many of the same tactics, funneling ball-handlers baseline, but the aren't as effective with an elite defensive bigman.

Tim Duncan makes the Spurs better because he NEGATES HIS TEAM'S MISTAKES. His players don't play better because of him. They just DON'T PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKES BECAUSE DUNCAN IS THERE.

A guy like Ibaka, Howard or McGee can get in the opponents' head altering decision making. Guys are hesitant to go into the paint or settle for ill-advised jumpshots. The game is just attempting to recreate that effect.

Decision making is not the same as losing shooting ability.

Got damit ryan who did the Mavs win a championship with because of defense?

smfh

Dirk had one of the best post-season runs ever, and Terry was great as well.

You have no case. I already proved that the Mavericks performed just as well defensively without Chandler as they did with him.

[francium34]

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Kind of wish they went with gold/silver/bronze tier of SS

Posterizer--Hakim Warrick??
Shot Creator--Kemba Walker??
Ankle Breaker--Austin Rivers??
Pick Pocket--Jeremy Lin?????
Chase Down Artist--Brandon Rush??
Bruiser--David West??
Closer...let's not even go there.

Of course this can all be edited anyway, so really just a minor complaint.

Still waiting to see how normal attributes weigh with these SS. Hopefully MJ will still dunk better than Warrick, dribble better than Rivers, chase-block better than Rush, and steal better than Lin.

[Boilerbuzz]

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What the hell are you trying to say? 2K thinks that players alone can make defenders around them better. I've proven that this isn't true.

You DID!? Where? All you've done is scream about it - arguing with anyone that tries to help you get it. And if they fail to convince you - that's proof? Come on dude.

Woodson came to the Knicks and they got better defensively, and when he became head coach, they improved even MORE. Yeah, I'm sure that's a coincidence.

These skills do not conflict with the coaches' impact. Has nothing at all to do with this.

Look at Defensive Efficiency. The Mavs did not get that much better with Chandler.

There is FAR too much that goes into this, so you can't just look at 1 metric and draw some over-arching conclusion. Did they get better with Chandler? Yes.

[Thunder Storm]

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what 2k is doing with sig skills is pretty genius.

You will find that you and your opponent will be approaching the game like a real life match, same strategies and everything.

[Conda]

@RyanFitzmagic Tyson Chandler makes his teammates better on defense in real life because he is very vocal. Watch the Knicks games and you will see he is constantly talking and directing players on where to be, what's happening, and what to do on defense. He's like a defensive coordinator out there. Just like a floor general on offense setting up the offense for the best scoring opportunity.