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  • Mos1ted
    MVP
    • Sep 2002
    • 2267

    #376
    Re: NBA 2K13 - All Signature Skills Revealed

    Originally posted by iLLosophy
    Maybe I made that post too long, but I just reread it and I'm pretty sure that I didn't say or imply that. I merely said a) no one has provided any science or proof that every player in the nba gets loses confident for 90 seconds after getting their shot blocked by these guys and b) I want the psychology to take place when playing User vs User, actually between the Users....not Blake Griffin's psychology vs Serge Ibaka's.



    Just some hypothetical questions - say you did one of those dunks on Blake griffin against me:
    • What is my (meaning me - iLLosophy) psychological state after getting posterized and hearing the crowd go crazy?
    • Is it possible I (iLLosophy) could be demoralized after you did that, thus impacting how I play the next several minutes? My thoughts could be like this: "Man Mos1ted better not submit that dunk for OS top 10...that was some bs....I can't believe they called foul on me." Completely throws off my game for the next few minutes. I start 2nd guessing myself, throwing bad passes, leaving guys wide open, etc
    • Is it possible you (Mos1ted) get hype after doing that dunk and gives you a boost in confidence? If not you, maybe someone else?


    That should give you a better insight into the psychological game I want to play. And I'd prefer to play it without the game compounding or negating the effect
    I see what you're saying, but that takes me point to my original point about this game simulating the NBA. It isn't always about how you would react in that situation; it's about how an NBA player would react to that situation.

    If you look at the clip of Blake Griffin dunking on Kendrick Perkins, Perkins looked like he was about to cry. Personally, I probably wouldn't react that way if I were dunked on my Blake Griffin, but I'm not controlling myself in the game; I'm controlling an NBA player.
    According to my old marketing professor, satisfaction is when product performance meets or exceeds consumer expectation.

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    • LoSoisNiCEx414
      MVP
      • Sep 2010
      • 1162

      #377
      Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

      Brandon Jennings should have Interceptor,Ankle Breaker, & Microwave

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      • vito100
        Rookie
        • Sep 2010
        • 40

        #378
        Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
        That's because they established a defensive culture in Boston. Did he do that on Minnesota? No. Those teams were mediocre on defense most of the time.



        Tyson Chandler didn't do jack except hold down the paint. I didn't see Steve Novak or Jeremy Lin playing better defense by virtue of Chandler being on the floor.



        So does a great perimeter defender. Why can't we have that?
        yeah but, its six points... if They have a 55 defense and it goes to 61 they still will be horrible at defense.

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        • Colts18
          MVP
          • Feb 2010
          • 1959

          #379
          Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

          Originally posted by RedSceptile
          The way how some of you all are reacting to the Ankle Breaker skill makes me think you failed Reading Comprehension 101and Basic Math. A 30% increase for something that say has an 8% chance of happening jumps to a whopping 10.4%. In other words something that would happen 8 times out of 100 now happens 10 times out of 100. You're not going to be falling all over the place if that's what you believe.
          The way some of you are reacting makes me think you failed Basketball Simulation 101. It happening 10/100 times is way too much. 10 out of a 1000 would make more sense from a simulation standpoint but my issue is it will happen too much based on the numbers that they gave me.

          I really think you dudes on here think someone falling from a cross happens more than it actually does. Way more than it actually does.

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          • Thunder Storm
            Rookie
            • Dec 2010
            • 480

            #380
            Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

            Originally posted by Colts18
            The way some of you are reacting makes me think you failed Basketball Simulation 101. It happening 10/100 times is way too much. 10 out of a 1000 would make more sense from a simulation standpoint but my issue is it will happen too much based on the numbers that they gave me.

            I really think you dudes on here think someone falling from a cross happens more than it actually does. Way more than it actually does.
            But now you're forgetting that only the elite ball handlers in the game possess ankle breaker. Say there is 300+ athletes in the game ... only about 30-40 odd players will have the skill. (That's probably more than the actual amount, I'm just appeasing you).

            So now the chances of you coming across this sig skill is decreased even more because the pool is diluted with mostly players who do not possess the skill.
            2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
            222-34 online

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            • chandlerbang
              Banned
              • Apr 2012
              • 612

              #381
              Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

              Originally posted by BigDaneAyMane
              SMH at the people upset Lebron doesn't have more sig skills. As if it isn't easy enough already to damn near average a triple-double with him...
              totally agree, its like even though they dont care for miami lebron still gets everyones attention over all other players. Todays "fans" are weird compared to us in the early 90s

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              • Colts18
                MVP
                • Feb 2010
                • 1959

                #382
                Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                Originally posted by Thunder Storm
                But now you're forgetting that only the elite ball handlers in the game possess ankle breaker. Say there is 300+ athletes in the game ... only about 20 odd players will have the skill.

                So now the chances of you coming across this sig skill is decreased even more because the pool is diluted with mostly players who do not possess the skill.
                It doesn't matter dude. If only 20 people have it the probability of 10% is very high. Nobody in the world crosses someone and makes them fall 10% of the time.

                As I said, I don't know if you understand how high of a % that is for this.

                Something closer to 2-3% is ideal and realistic but I am even thinking that is high.

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                • Thunder Storm
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 480

                  #383
                  Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                  Originally posted by Colts18
                  It doesn't matter dude. If only 20 people have it the probability of 10% is very high. Nobody in the world crosses someone and makes them fall 10% of the time.

                  As I said, I don't know if you understand how high of a % that is for this.

                  Something closer to 2-3% is ideal and realistic but I am even thinking that is high.
                  Well there has been plenty of anecdotal evidence provided to suggest that the normal rate of an ankle breaker is about 5-6 times per year. So the 10/100 figure you're going with is not even accurate according to some.

                  I'm thinking the chances are in the 5-6 % range per game with ankle breaker active and then the % increases with the quality of defense, or lack there of being played on the ankle breaker.
                  2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
                  222-34 online

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                  • Vni
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 14833

                    #384
                    Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                    He just picked 8% as a random number though.

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                    • Thunder Storm
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 480

                      #385
                      Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                      Originally posted by Vni
                      He just picked 8% as a random number though.
                      Or this, in short.
                      2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
                      222-34 online

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                      • Colts18
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 1959

                        #386
                        Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                        Originally posted by Thunder Storm
                        Well there has been plenty of anecdotal evidence provided to suggest that the normal rate of an ankle breaker is about 5-6 times per year. So the 10/100 figure you're going with is not even accurate according to some.

                        I'm thinking the chances are in the 5-6 % range per game with ankle breaker active and then the % increases with the quality of defense, or lack there of being played on the ankle breaker.
                        I am not going with 10/100, that was thrown out by the poster above. I just tagged along with it.

                        5-6 times per NBA season means what? After how many crossovers done and it happens only 5-6 times? That is a pretty low percentage man.

                        To put an end to this, I know how video games are. I know how 2K is when it comes to catering to casuals. I think you all would be crazy to think this will be implemented properly and with good taste given their track record.

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                        • da ThRONe
                          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 8528

                          #387
                          Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                          Originally posted by BigDaneAyMane
                          SMH at the people upset Lebron doesn't have more sig skills. As if it isn't easy enough already to damn near average a triple-double with him...
                          Well considering LeBron stats are close to triple double status I don't think it's a stretch. The wrong people will abuse any videogame. That's why you avoid those people. However if the purpose of sigs is to add intangibles to players so they play more like their real life counterparts then there's no way a cap of 5 will be sufficient to truly represent how multi fascist guys like James, Wade, Paul, Duncan, Love, etc. Especially the players who are excellent two way players.
                          You looking at the Chair MAN!

                          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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                          • Thunder Storm
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 480

                            #388
                            Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                            Originally posted by Colts18
                            I am not going with 10/100, that was thrown out by the poster above. I just tagged along with it.

                            5-6 times per NBA season means what? After how many crossovers done and it happens only 5-6 times? That is a pretty low percentage man.

                            To put an end to this, I know how video games are. I know how 2K is when it comes to catering to casuals. I think you all would be crazy to think this will be implemented properly and with good taste given their track record.
                            We'll see.

                            They have already showed signs of restriction to casuals by putting a stamina cap on "Posterizer". Would you not say that is a good sign ?
                            2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
                            222-34 online

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                            • Vni
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 14833

                              #389
                              Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                              Originally posted by Colts18
                              I am not going with 10/100, that was thrown out by the poster above. I just tagged along with it.

                              5-6 times per NBA season means what? After how many crossovers done and it happens only 5-6 times? That is a pretty low percentage man.

                              To put an end to this, I know how video games are. I know how 2K is when it comes to catering to casuals. I think you all would be crazy to think this will be implemented properly and with good taste given their track record.
                              There always have been and always will be arcadey aspects to the game. Who really cares if players drop 2% more in the game than in real life?

                              We gotta chill a little bit.

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                              • Colts18
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2010
                                • 1959

                                #390
                                Re: NBA 2K13 - All 31 Signature Skills Revealed

                                Originally posted by Thunder Storm
                                We'll see.

                                They have already showed signs of restriction to casuals by putting a stamina cap on "Posterizer". Would you not say that is a good sign ?
                                Yea sure, that is a good sign, but then again knowing how 2K never properly implements fatigue I don't know how much of a good thing this really is.

                                It is a good chance that in a 5 min online game players never get under 80% fatigue so yea.......

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