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**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 03:17 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Originally posted by scoman

How are your sacks overall,im thinking they might be a little high,but very small sample size for me so far.

SACKS

Raiders(me) @ Chiefs
3(me) 2(chiefs

Panthers(me) @ Bucs
2(me) 4(Bucs)

Chargers(me) vs 49ers
3(me) 2(49ers)

So both teams are averaging 2.5 sacks a game w/ 5 sacks total averaged.

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 03:21 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

According to the NFL averages in 2011. 2.5 sacks were the average per team.

Heres the link to NFL averages (sacks)

NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Sacks per Game | TeamRankings.com

http://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/sacks-per-game

NFL Football sacks per game, by team.

**Sportify** · 09-06-2012, 04:23 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Just played my first offline CCM game with these sliders, and they're pretty solid. I am posting the box score, Broncos (CPU) at Falcons (user), 15 min quarters, 12 sec play clocks, otherwise nothing changed. A lot of lead changes, close game all the way, Broncos were driving late in the game, until Peyton threw a pick at around my 35 with about a minute and a half to go, at which point the game was effectively over. A few other things to note, in no particular order:

1. I have not played all that well. In particular, I could have definitely avoided a couple of CPU sacks (CPU had 4, I had 2).
2. Hitting may need to be toned down a little bit in my opinion, too many big hits/too few missed tackles on 1-on-1 situations on default.
3. Only 2 flags, I will play with someone else's penalty sliders for my next game and see how that goes.

Overall, I actually had a lot of fun playing with this slider set. And yes, I do realize that this is a small sample

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Denver Broncos at Atlanta Falcons</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 6, 2012</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Denver Broncos (0-0)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right" class="active">19</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Atlanta Falcons (0-0)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right" class="active">20</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">DEN</td><td align="center" width="20%">ATL</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">262</td><td align="center">322</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">94</td><td align="center">129</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">168</td><td align="center">193</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">14</td><td align="center">22</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">10</td><td align="center">19</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">128</td><td align="center">132</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">400</td><td align="center">473</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">3</td><td align="center">3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">4-11</td><td align="center">5-10</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">-</td><td align="center">-</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">-</td><td align="center">-</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">0-3</td><td align="center">2-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">2-15</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">20:48</td><td align="center">39:12</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="4">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FIRST QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">DEN</td><td align="right" width="10%">ATL</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">1:14</td><td width="70%">(ATL) L.Polite 3 Yd pass from M.Ryan (M.Bryant kick)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">SECOND QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">DEN</td><td align="right" width="10%">ATL</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">4:44</td><td width="70%">(DEN) M.Prater, 22 Yd FG</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">4:39</td><td width="70%">(DEN) V.Millar, returned fumble 12 Yds (M.Prater kick)</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">7</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">1:54</td><td width="70%">(ATL) D.Alexander 14 Yd pass from M.Ryan (M.Bryant kick)</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">14</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">0:06</td><td width="70%">(DEN) M.Prater, 21 Yd FG</td><td align="right">13</td><td align="right">14</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">THIRD QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">DEN</td><td align="right" width="10%">ATL</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">9:55</td><td width="70%">(DEN) M.Prater, 29 Yd FG</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">14</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FOURTH QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">DEN</td><td align="right" width="10%">ATL</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">14:56</td><td width="70%">(ATL) M.Bryant, 21 Yd FG</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">17</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">7:35</td><td width="70%">(DEN) M.Prater, 56 Yd FG</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right">17</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">2:13</td><td width="70%">(ATL) M. Bryant, 35 Yd FG</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right">20</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0D254C" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Denver Broncos</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Matt Ryan</td><td align="right">16/25</td><td align="right">228</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Michael Turner</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">93</td><td align="right">4.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Jason Snelling</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right">40</td><td align="right">4.4</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jacquizz Rodgers</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">-1</td><td align="right">-0.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Matt Ryan</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">-4</td><td align="right">-2.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lousaka Polite</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Roddy White</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">105</td><td align="right">17.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Julio Jones</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">61</td><td align="right">12.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Danario Alexander</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Lousaka Polite</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tony Gonzalez</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">28</td><td align="right">28.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#C9233F" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Atlanta Falcons</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Peyton Manning</td><td align="right">16/22</td><td align="right">179</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Willis McGahee</td><td align="right">21</td><td align="right">54</td><td align="right">2.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Knowshon Moreno</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">30</td><td align="right">7.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Andre Caldwell</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">10.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Jacob Tamme</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td 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class="evenrow"><td>Knowshon Moreno</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Willis McGahee</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 04:44 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

^ Your stats look good. Nice solid game, I'm bout to start up another game soon. I'll post the box score.

**BZito75** · 09-06-2012, 04:52 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Sorry I have been at work all day but the stats looks fantastic.... The gameplay feeling organic and the thought the user can actually lose is major for me, thank you all for testing and I KNEW I forgot the penalties lol, I'll post them on the op.

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 04:58 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Originally posted by BZito75

Sorry I have been at work all day but the stats looks fantastic.... The gameplay feeling organic and the thought the user can actually lose is major for me, thank you all for testing and I KNEW I forgot the penalties lol, I'll post them on the op.

You have your own Penalty sliders? It just keeps getting better! haha!

These sliders are awesome man! I love that I'm 1-2 on these. The fact that these play very well plus I can lose is awesome.

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 05:01 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

I just edited my penalties to all 53 like you said. I'll play a game soon to see how it works out.

**BZito75** · 09-06-2012, 05:14 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Originally posted by AlienArcherV1

I just edited my penalties to all 53 like you said. I'll play a game soon to see how it works out.

Thank you for all the testing, I'm about to start my jets Ccm tonight

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 05:18 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Originally posted by BZito75

Thank you for all the testing, I'm about to start my jets Ccm tonight

Awesome, I'll probably start my real CCM tomorrow night.

Testing? Thanks for the great games! lol

I just started a Play Now game, I'll post stats when finished. Theres already been 1 penalty. Thats a good sign

**BZito75** · 09-06-2012, 05:43 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Originally posted by AlienArcherV1

Awesome, I'll probably start my real CCM tomorrow night.

Testing? Thanks for the great games! lol

I just started a Play Now game, I'll post stats when finished. Theres already been 1 penalty. Thats a good sign

I think there's a 10-15% drop in stats from play now to Ccm..... Meaning if a guy rushes for 100 in play now, usually he will get 85-90 in ccm

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 05:46 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Originally posted by BZito75

I think there's a 10-15% drop in stats from play now to Ccm..... Meaning if a guy rushes for 100 in play now, usually he will get 85-90 in ccm

Interesting, at least its not like a 50% drop or something that causes completely different numbers

I'm at Halftime right now, down 13-10

**Exogenesis33** · 09-06-2012, 05:46 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Giving these a shot right now. I like the approach of minimally changing sliders. I've always felt that changing them too drastically ruined other parts of the game. I'll post feedback after playing.

**BZito75** · 09-06-2012, 06:08 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Update, fumble at 30 hum/cpu

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 06:11 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

Originally posted by BZito75

Update, fumble at 30 hum/cpu

Just finished my game, im gonna make my box score and post it. I'll update right now too

**AlienArcherV1** · 09-06-2012, 06:22 PM

Re: BZitos minimalist all-pro sliders

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Philadelphia Eagles at New England Patriots</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 6, 2012</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Philadelphia Eagles ()</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right" class="active">24</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>New England Patriots (me)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right" class="active">27</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">PHI</td><td align="center" width="20%">NWE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">334</td><td align="center">396</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">104</td><td align="center">109</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">230</td><td align="center">287</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">13</td><td align="center">18</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">34</td><td align="center">30</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">71</td><td align="center">104</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">439</td><td align="center">530</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">7-15</td><td align="center">5-12</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">-</td><td align="center">-</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">-</td><td align="center">-</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">2/1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">4-20</td><td align="center">3-30</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">30:19</td><td align="center">29:41</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#003B48" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Philadelphia Eagles</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Michael Vick</td><td align="right">12-20</td><td align="right">167</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Mike Kafka</td><td align="right">2-2</td><td align="right">74</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>LeSean McCoy</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">67</td><td align="right">2.6</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Vick</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">37</td><td align="right">7.4</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lewis</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">1.5</td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>DeSean Jackson</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">110</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Avant</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">42</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Maclin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">89</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right">1</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0D254C" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">New England Patriots</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Tom Brady</td><td align="right">24-29</td><td align="right">294</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Stevan Ridley</td><td align="right">25</td><td align="right">93</td><td align="right">3.7</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Danny Woodhead</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">16</td><td align="right">2.2</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Deion Branch</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">32</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Gronk</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">61</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lloyd</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">91</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Woodhead</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">31</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Gaffney</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Welker (injured)</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">19</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Hernandez</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Vereen</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ridley</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right"></td><td align="right"></td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

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