NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

[squeakybirnbaum]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

When will people learn? overall rating doesn't mean ****. As long as they play true to their real life counterparts, what difference does that little "overall" rating matter, it's all of the other, specific, ratings that matter.

Last year Dirk was what like 85 or something? so many people I know were raging about it "wah wah wah Dirk an 85, put a championship on his back", but his overall didn't mean jack, Dirk was beast on the game if you played him like Dirk, his stats were great for making Dirk like Dirk, that's all that matters.

They should just do away with the overall rating, it doesn't mean a damn thing beyond giving people something to complain about "if this guy is an 84 my guy better be an 87" blah blah blah lol. I don't care whether a guys overall says he is 75, 85, 9001, as long as the other numbers equal a realistic representation of the player. When you're actually playing a game, what relevance does that overall number have to you? none? it's the other stats that matter. People in here talking about how Bosh needs to be better than Amare, Bosh is a better player than Amare in my opinion, but I don't give a damn who has a higher overall rating, what I care about is that Bosh plays like Bosh and Amare plays like Amare.

I could see arguing about ratings if they showed the individual ratings for everything that made up the overall rating. Then you could say say and so's mid-range is too high or so and so's steal rating is too low. But saying someone is 1 or 2 points too high overall when that is the only number that you know makes no sense.

[DukeC]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

Until they prove that the skill exists vs. the new level of competition the skill doesn't exist.

As far as handling and dunking go this is a non-issue as you can quantify that. Elite ball handlers are elite no matter the competition.

However, if you were to make the argument that no rookie should have any of the shooting "skills", then I'm in agreement with that.

[Wildcats302]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

Not even close, MKG is a much better pick then Rivers right now. Look, we don't know how either one is gonna pan out in the league, but I would build a team around MKG, his unselfishness, work ethic, defense, and athleticism makes him a easy pick over Rivers. Rivers is definitely a SG, he has a better jumper then MKG, that's all I would give him, there is a reason Kidd-Gilchrist went Number 2 you know.

Yeah that other guy has no idea what he is talking about. And I guess all the NBA scouts and GMs are bias as well, all are closet UK fans lmao.

If the Hornets could trade Rivers today for MKG straight up they'd do it so quickly it would be hilarious to behold, but guess what? The Bobcats WOULD never make that trade, not even Jordan is that stupid as an owner.

[DukeC]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

Yeah that other guy has no idea what he is talking about. And I guess all the NBA scouts and GMs are bias as well, all are closet UK fans lmao.

If the Hornets could trade Rivers today for MKG straight up they'd do it so quickly it would be hilarious to behold, but guess what? The Bobcats WOULD never make that trade, not even Jordan is that stupid as an owner.

I think they'd do that to be honest. They need a 2 guard. They couldn't score last year.

[b2tha2ndpwr]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

I think sports games should drop the "overall" rating all together. It's never made any sense to me how they come up with who's the "better overall player" if their styles were totally different. Is Jamal Crawford a better player than Tony Allen because he has a higher overall? Or is Jamal Crawford's skillset more overall rating friendly? They're both shooting guards but totally different players.

[b2tha2ndpwr]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

I think they'd do that to be honest. They need a 2 guard. They couldn't score last year.

No they wouldn't. If they wanted Rivers over MKG, they would have drafted Rivers over MKG... They turned down the trade with Cleveland because they were worried that Washington would take MKG at 3 and wouldn't risk losing him.

[Eman5805]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

No offense but what was unwarranted about his reply? He can't voice his opinion like everyone else? He also makes a valid point. Moreover he never said people couldn't discuss ratings or that it got on his nerves. Its a big enough community for all of us. Just saying.


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All offense intended. His opinion was that the guy should probably not read the threads with subject matter he doesn't really like. Exceptionally saying. :wink:

[Bajney]

I think Austin River's flashy style of play and potential for large scoring outputs make people want his rating to be higher than it should. 67's about right for a rookie. I'm sure his "potential" rating's in the 80's. I went to two Duke games last year and he looked lost from a team defense standpoint and when he didn't have the ball in his hands on offense so his awareness rating's probably rather low.

Besides, if he outperforms that rating that's what roster updates are for

Agreed. Rivers is flashy but other aspects of his game need serious work. Great handles and quickness and can get to the rim because of it...other than that though he is mediocre. I always get a chuckle at those that say he is "a great shooter" or "can shoot the three ball well". Since when is a kid that shot 32% from 3 and 70% at the ft line in high school and 36.5% from 3 and 66% from the ft line in college, considered a "great shooter"?

He is a volume scorer and a virtual black hole when the ball is in his hands. A SG in every sense of the word because he clearly doesn't have the leadership, floor vision, passing, and shot selection to be a PG. 2.2 APG at Winter Park and 2.1 APG at Duke is horrid and right now a 67 overall at PG is definitely not underrated. As others have said, move him to SG and his rating will improve.

The moron that said he is a better prospect than MKG needs to actually watch some basketball games and not YouTube highlights, then maybe we don't get the absurd, "ZOMG!!1 Rivers is clearly the better player and NBA prospect than Kidd-Gilchrist!!!"
NBA scouts and GMs clearly valued MKG more and I doubt they all are 'biased Kentucky fans looking through their blue-tinted glasses'

At 6'7.5 and 235 pounds, MKG is prototypical size for a 3 in the NBA. Unlike Rivers where his natural position is SG and standing at 6'3 200lbs. He can't rebound nor defend which explains why his overall rating is considerably lower than MKG's who is one of, if not the most, versatile players in this years class of rookies.

[bm011]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

Agreed. Rivers is flashy but other aspects of his game need serious work. Great handles and quickness and can get to the rim because of it...other than that though he is mediocre. I always get a chuckle at those that say he is "a great shooter" or "can shoot the three ball well". Since when is a kid that shot 32% from 3 and 70% at the ft line in high school and 36.5% from 3 and 66% from the ft line in college, considered a "great shooter"?

He is a volume scorer and a virtual black hole when the ball is in his hands. A SG in every sense of the word because he clearly doesn't have the leadership, floor vision, passing, and shot selection to be a PG. 2.2 APG at Winter Park and 2.1 APG at Duke is horrid and right now a 67 overall at PG is definitely not underrated. As others have said, move him to SG and his rating will improve.

The moron that said he is a better prospect than MKG needs to actually watch some basketball games and not YouTube highlights, then maybe we don't get the absurd, "ZOMG!!1 Rivers is clearly the better player and NBA prospect than Kidd-Gilchrist!!!"
NBA scouts and GMs clearly valued MKG more and I doubt they all are 'biased Kentucky fans looking through their blue-tinted glasses'

At 6'7.5 and 235 pounds, MKG is prototypical size for a 3 in the NBA. Unlike Rivers where his natural position is SG and standing at 6'3 200lbs. He can't rebound nor defend which explains why his overall rating is considerably lower than MKG's who is one of, if not the most, versatile players in this years class of rookies.

Agreed. MKG's best aspect is his defense IMO, which Rivers clearly is not even close to being as good at.

[NowAndLaterCARZ]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

I think they'd do that to be honest. They need a 2 guard. They couldn't score last year.

they got ben gordon at sg

[Norris_Cole]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

NBA scouts and GMs clearly valued MKG more and I doubt they all are 'biased Kentucky fans looking through their blue-tinted glasses'

That part is pretty ignorant, do I need to remind you other guys that scouts and gm's used to value?

How about Thabeet? Wes Johnson?

Mkg is going to be a decent player but too raw offensively , he is a 3rd or even 4th offensive option at best on a decent team. I think he will struggle pretty bad in the bobcats as he clearly needs to have an elite team and teammates around to be productive and get his offense going

[Wildcats302]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

That part is pretty ignorant, do I need to remind you other guys that scouts and gm's used to value?

How about Thabeet? Wes Johnson?

Mkg is going to be a decent player but too raw offensively , he is a 3rd or even 4th offensive option at best on a decent team. I think he will struggle pretty bad in the bobcats as he clearly needs to have an elite team and teammates around to be productive and get his offense going

We'll see buddy, can't wait to see you swallow your words later this season. You will be nowhere to found in a couple of years when MKG has developed his jumper...his offense is fine minus a solid jumper.

Meanwhile Rivers will flop as PG..guy is a ballhog SG, play the guy where he belongs if you want him to do anything well IMO.

[AirTeezy]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

That part is pretty ignorant, do I need to remind you other guys that scouts and gm's used to value?

How about Thabeet? Wes Johnson?

Mkg is going to be a decent player but too raw offensively , he is a 3rd or even 4th offensive option at best on a decent team. I think he will struggle pretty bad in the bobcats as he clearly needs to have an elite team and teammates around to be productive and get his offense going

Lol that made no sense.....scouts valued LeBron and Kevin Durant too. What's your point

[Norris_Cole]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

Lol that made no sense.....scouts valued LeBron and Kevin Durant too. What's your point

My point is that what scouts value means nothing. They are wrong a lot of times as well

[AirTeezy]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings: Austin Rivers - 67, Amare Stoudemire - 84, Chris Paul - 94

My point is that what scouts value means nothing. They are wrong a lot of times as well

But there's a reason why they value certain prospects over others.... You chose two examples of players that were viewed as projects with potential.MKG isn't viewed like that