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  • ForeverVersatile
    Pro
    • Jan 2011
    • 3498

    #151
    Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

    I'm starting to hate reading posts because people cry about everything like they could fix it themselves.. Way too many good things to cry about dumb ish, seriously.
    Last edited by ForeverVersatile; 09-07-2012, 12:17 PM.
    PSN: ForeverVersatile
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    • BegBy
      Banned
      • Feb 2009
      • 1212

      #152
      Originally posted by thevaliantx
      You didn't mention anything about ice skating. I did. That doesn't make my point invalid. It only proves that there ARE problems other than what you're seeing. Enjoy posting on OS, as I am. What you don't understand about rosters is that even with every possibly attribute in the world attached to the players, if the game's engine (the AI) isn't making use of those attributes, then it doesn't matter. You can have all the world's best three-point shooters on your team, but unless you are the one shooting with those players, and moving them to where they can get open, then ..... if the engine doesn't make use of play-calling on its own (which it does not, as I have observed over the years), then it's not going to matter. There is a reason why we're not seeing any gameplay footage of human vs cpu for NBA 2K13? Why? Because 2K13 would GET MURDERED by the knowledgeable folks on this site who know what real-life basketball looks like. You would see the computer's point guard dribble down the court and just stand there at the top of the key,m repeatedly passing the ball to another computer on the perimeter or to whereever you weren't changing control of your own player to. In other words, the AI does not run "plays", it simply reacts. Ever pondered that?
      Are you aware you're talking to a guy who has more knowledge about player edits and how they correlate to game play than just about anybody? His edits, and those of his peers, changed last years game so dramatically that he and said mentioned contemporaries should have been paid for their efforts. Their work literally made it seem like a different game engine.

      SG3/Tapatalk 2

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      • raul24NDLAL12
        Banned
        • Aug 2012
        • 215

        #153
        Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

        Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
        I'm starting to hate reading posts because people cry about everything like they could fix it themselves.. Way to many good things to cry about dumb ish, seriously.
        On PC version we fix everything =D. Sorry if 2k doesn't always deliver =)

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        • banks72301
          Banned
          • Sep 2012
          • 14

          #154
          Originally posted by thevaliantx
          LOL!!!!! Do you really think the demo we're seeing is that much different than the final build? Wow.
          You are totally missing what I mean by the game isn't out. It means why are they giving advice for an already great display of a game for NEXT YEARS game, when this year game isn't out yet....

          And you didn't dare address anything else I said, therefore I will drop the conversation.

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          • juicey79
            Rookie
            • Mar 2007
            • 403

            #155
            Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

            Originally posted by swaggedout
            Agreed. This is a prime example of people asking for things, getting it and still complaining.
            I second that sentiment

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            • youALREADYknow
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 3635

              #156
              Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

              Originally posted by thevaliantx
              You didn't mention anything about ice skating. I did. That doesn't make my point invalid. It only proves that there ARE problems other than what you're seeing. Enjoy posting on OS, as I am. What you don't understand about rosters is that even with every possibly attribute in the world attached to the players, if the game's engine (the AI) isn't making use of those attributes, then it doesn't matter. You can have all the world's best three-point shooters on your team, but unless you are the one shooting with those players, and moving them to where they can get open, then ..... if the engine doesn't make use of play-calling on its own (which it does not, as I have observed over the years), then it's not going to matter. There is a reason why we're not seeing any gameplay footage of human vs cpu for NBA 2K13? Why? Because 2K13 would GET MURDERED by the knowledgeable folks on this site who know what real-life basketball looks like. You would see the computer's point guard dribble down the court and just stand there at the top of the key,m repeatedly passing the ball to another computer on the perimeter or to whereever you weren't changing control of your own player to. In other words, the AI does not run "plays", it simply reacts. Ever pondered that?
              You're right. I haven't even begun to ponder or understand how roster edits impact the game, or investigate how tendencies or attributes are related to the game engine, or whether the AI runs plays or freelances. Maybe I should look into that...

              hint: That's sarcasm. If you don't know someone's knowledge or comprehension about a specific subject matter, then don't make assumptions on what they know. The above post was condescending in every way imaginable.

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              • cavsfan2
                MVP
                • Aug 2010
                • 3899

                #157
                Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

                Kobe did it on them lol
                It was pretty good. My only problems were Artest dribbling around like a PG and an animation where Wade just teleported through the Defense at 10:30. I would also prefer that the CPU Lakers would go down to the post more against a small Heat team (Shane battier on Gasol?)
                I like the control that the dribbling gives us like that spin by lebron at the 6 minute mark or so. Also the dribbling doesnt seem overpowered even for someone who clearly know the system.

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                • banks72301
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 14

                  #158
                  Originally posted by BegBy
                  Are you aware you're talking to a guy who has more knowledge about player edits and how they correlate to game play than just about anybody? His edits, and those of his peers, changed last years game so dramatically that he and said mentioned contemporaries should have been paid for their efforts. Their work literally made it seem like a different game engine.

                  SG3/Tapatalk 2
                  Only the online geeks liked his Edits, most of America doesn't even know he exist. Just a case of feeling all high and might amongst a crowd of a few.

                  If you build off somebody elses game, and you are trying to create your own, you deserve nothing but praise for the way you wish to waste your time.

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                  • Vni
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 14810

                    #159
                    Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

                    Originally posted by The_Throne2K11
                    I'm starting to hate reading posts because people cry about everything like they could fix it themselves.. Way too many good things to cry about dumb ish, seriously.
                    That's why I probably won't check the forums for a week when I get the game.

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                    • youALREADYknow
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 3635

                      #160
                      Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

                      Originally posted by banks72301
                      Only the online geeks liked his Edits, most of America doesn't even know he exist. Just a case of feeling all high and might amongst a crowd of a few.

                      If you build off somebody elses game, and you are trying to create your own, you deserve nothing but praise for the way you wish to waste your time.
                      Another personal attack, gotta love it. The thread is about NBA 2K, not ANY person on an online forum.

                      If you're under the impression that community members that contribute a tangible resource such as rosters, mods, etc. are doing it for fame, notoriety, or praise then you're likely mistaken. We're enthusiasts, gaming fans, and sports fans just like any other out there. The only difference is that some people choose to use their knowledge or skills to contribute to the greater cause. Nothing more, nothing less.

                      Back to NBA 2K13 please.

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                      • banks72301
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 14

                        #161
                        No sports game, except FIFA comes this close to emulating the way people move around the court, and you guys are expecting this game to act like a simulation of how REAL LIFE people with RANDOM actions act in real life.

                        ALSO Wade didn't TELEPORT past players, if you WATCH Basketball, you know thats his Euro Step where he dodges traffic and makes it to the rim, and YES in real life it looks just like that

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                        • ForeverVersatile
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 3498

                          #162
                          Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

                          Too many Mr. know it all's on OS, people need to take a step back and stop thinking they know all the answers. This is a video game, if you want something more realistic go pick up a basketball and head to your nearest court.
                          PSN: ForeverVersatile
                          Xbox Live: TheBluprint09

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                          • BegBy
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1212

                            #163
                            Originally posted by banks72301
                            Only the online geeks liked his Edits, most of America doesn't even know he exist. Just a case of feeling all high and might amongst a crowd of a few.

                            If you build off somebody elses game, and you are trying to create your own, you deserve nothing but praise for the way you wish to waste your time.
                            I can't speak on his behalf. I do know that in the conversations I've had with him he is very approachable, magnanimous, and a just a nice dude.

                            He's never once even fished for a compliment or recognition, nor has he tried to steal some thunder claiming he revolutionized the engine.

                            Quite the opposite of what you're suggesting.



                            SG3/Tapatalk 2

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                            • Da_Czar
                              NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5408

                              #164
                              Re: NBA 2K13 Gameplay Video - Los Angeles Lakers vs. Miami Heat

                              Originally posted by Goffs
                              Czar will we be getting twenty teams twenty days this year?
                              LOL 20 huh ? Honestly I don't know. I was told yes months ago but I would need to be there soon and Ronnie is not returning any of my calls so I may be on the out's ? LOL you never really know He could call me tomorrow and say I have your ticket already

                              If he waits too much longer though I won't have the time so I said all that to say I have NO idea.

                              He may feel that he got enough community love from the 2k teamup program and what I did is no longer necessary.
                              Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                              • Julion07
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 11

                                #165
                                Originally posted by BezO
                                Not the game(play)... not the GAME(play)... we talkin' about accessories.
                                Lmfaooo (AI voice)

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