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  • JezFranco
    Pro
    • Jan 2010
    • 725

    #256
    Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

    Originally posted by mkharsh33
    In 2 games before I went to bed last night, I had two 2-0 leads heading into the 3rd period. Both leads disappeared and I lost one of them 4-2 and the other I won 3-2 in the closing seconds. Definitely see a cpu boost (All Star / Hardcore - with some tweaks). I'd like to consider the lower level this year, as I made some sliders a couple years ago for Pro that played well. This game might actually play best on that level, giving the cpu proper boosts. Not sure though...
    I haven't played retail yet...
    But like you said, I've also made my sliders earlier based on Pro.
    Just because said reason, on higher levels the CPU gets certain boosts that I don't like.
    I can usually set some sliders in a way that makes Pro challenging enough... Unfortunately though, a few months into playing Pro and you start to learn the tapes, it gets harder and harder to adjust Pro to be challenging enough.


    But anyway, I'd like to mention to anyone that has issues with boosts for the CPU to try and start at Pro level, with certain sliders to make it harder, as I believe that Pro is the "neutral" CPU level, without boosts.


    Can't wait until Friday... EU release date.

    Thank you EA - This game is officially better than sex

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    • jyoung
      Hall Of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11132

      #257
      Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

      Some weird stuff is going on with simulated injuries in the offline Be A Pro mode.

      I'm seeing 3 to 4 CPU goalies getting injured each week, and most of them are short-term injuries.

      I'm 20 games into the season and no other position in the league is getting injured, just this bizarre rash of goalie injuries for the CPU teams.

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      • Leo4677
        Banned
        • Sep 2012
        • 8

        #258
        Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

        There's lots of moments in NHL Moments live(26 as of now, if 12/13 season happens, you can download more moments)
        Last edited by Leo4677; 09-10-2012, 07:26 AM.

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        • Minus 80
          Banned
          • Sep 2012
          • 89

          #259
          Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

          The CPU is not getting boosts. It's adjusting strategy to get more aggressive, while you fail to get more conservative. I would also suspect that you are running your lines ragged and getting hem fatigued.

          Fatigue is a great factor this year, and it does it in a good way. Aggressive strategies wear your team down faster, too. If you are using them all game, you are going to have a drop-off later.

          If they didn't program the CPU to adjust strategies when behind in the third, they would fail as developers.

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          • duffman
            Rookie
            • Jul 2004
            • 309

            #260
            Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

            Just got my first game in, quick game NYR (me) NJD (CPU) Superstar Hardcore 8 minutes with penalty slider maxed on 360:

            -Intros look the same as last year, with a different little theme song before they cut to the arena

            -There were times when Gaborik was able to just blow by defenders cause i caught them flat footed, without even needing the hustle button to do so which was nice to see

            -Jeff Halpern is wearing #11 in the roster update which is a retired NYR number

            -CPU seems tamer on superstar/hardcore than previous years. Last year if I played SS HC, there would be times when the CPU would pull off some nasty one timer goals unless i spent my whole time focusing on taking that away. Seemed more varied and realistic in their attack this time but could be the Devils strategy settings too if teams actually play differently from each other.

            -Scored on a wraparound with Callahan where i shot back to the short side, but Brodeur did this weird sort of flopping-butterfly move which slid him almost halfway out of the net on the far side leaving the net wide open. Hope this was just a flukey thing.

            -Saw a few too many times where i could just skate the puck all the way up with one of my d-men from behind my own net and weave around defenders all the way up to the opposing slot and take a shot, no dekes or fancy tricks required just skating with the L stick. This may just be due to the Devils strategy settings or something, but it was somewhat concerning.

            -Wound up with 3 PPs to the CPUs 2, they scored on both of theirs. Both of my penalties came from my CPU teammates

            -Had a couple instances where Lundqvist had the puck covered and one of the CPU players just barrelled into him with no penalty called. Hopefully this doesn't cause the puck to come loose in some situations otherwise this could be easily abused on online play.

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            • seasprite
              Phenom
              • Jul 2008
              • 8984

              #261
              Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

              Been playing it since Friday night and I am enjoying it. There are penalty issues......especially goalie inteference not ever being called.....but overall, I like the game. Definitely different but I am starting to get used to the new skating physics. The one problem that I hate is that they pretty much made cross creasing impossible. You make great passes and move the puck to get a great shot and the goalie always make an impossible save......................then all I have to do is take the puck up the ice and go up on the right stick short side and seem to have a 80% success in scoring. I will say that I am really enjoying the Connected Career mode.+






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              • ChubbyBanana
                Don't Trust Influencers
                • Oct 2003
                • 7071

                #262
                Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                Remember I was having trouble adjusting to the game since I skipped out on NHL 12 basically? I was getting my backside handed to me by the CPU on Pro.

                Well I went in and adjusted a couple things. I took the CPU AI Learning Slider down 2 clicks from full and I think this has made the most difference for me. I like the idea of CPU AI Learning but I think having it learn from everything I do was making it way to hard for me to adjust.

                I'm still not able to get off a reasonable amount of shots. I won a game 4-2 Rangers (me) vs. Sens but I was outshot like 22-7 or something like that. And faceoffs even though I reduced the difficultly slider (to the left) I still am not very good.
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                • mike24forever
                  Old Guy
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3172

                  #263
                  Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                  Originally posted by DJ
                  Why do even bother playing these games?
                  So he can complain about how "trash" the game is. There are issues with this title, however they are no where near as bad as he claims. I'm seeing 3 to 6 penalties a game. I have never seen a player go through the boards. That being said, I'm not looking at replays to look for visal problems.
                  I am the lesson after the fall.

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                  • mike24forever
                    Old Guy
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 3172

                    #264
                    Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                    Originally posted by jyoung
                    Goh, you can fix the stuttering issues by making a custom camera that crops out the crowd from the image.

                    When a lot of the crowd is on-screen, that's what causes the stutter.

                    If you zoom the camera in tight enough, the crowd won't ever appear on-screen and the game will run smoothly.
                    He said he deleted the game. This was suggested to him before, however he only looks for the negative. Hopefully, he will not buy the game and save himself $60, and save us from his complaining.
                    I am the lesson after the fall.

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                    • bad_philanthropy
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 12167

                      #265
                      Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                      I feel like picking up loose pucks could be tighter. I don't mean when the puck is rolling and my guy is being pressured. I mean when the puck is just sitting there and nobody is around me. I won't even be skating hard and my player just seems to ignore it at times. If you aren't going to give me control of my stick to corral loose pucks, then have the AI do it for me when it makes sense. It would be nice if the player could kick the puck to his stick in the proper context as well.

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                      • ChubbyBanana
                        Don't Trust Influencers
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 7071

                        #266
                        Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                        So I decided best way to see how my play was improving or not improving was to start a "playoff mode" and play a series.

                        This last game each team had a power play. Its like Penalties want to be there, but something in the code is preventing them, IMO.
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                        • duffman
                          Rookie
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 309

                          #267
                          Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                          Couple more points from my second game:

                          -There is finally a 4vs4 set of lines, thank God! As long as this carries over into OT this will fix the random selection of which forwards get to play during OT. This has been bugging me for a while now

                          -Still no postgame three stars, minor but it just helps in overall presentation since its a tradition in hockey

                          -Gary and Bill are fine, but they need either a) new lines or b) someone needs to go clean up the old lines. I really shouldn't be hearing about how the Rangers are having trouble finding their way to a winning season anymore after last year, i think i'd rather just have some dead air instead of hearing outdated lines if thats the only option.

                          -Seeing some awesome, awesome puck deflections and goalie reactions. Plays where the goalie is going one way and makes that little adjustment to make the save off a skate or stick just like in real life. Some of these are just plain beautiful to watch.

                          -I'm able to score this year off of clean wristers, on superstar hardcore settings without having to alter shot power, goalie reaction or any of that which is great.

                          So far the game is what i expected, it's the newer, more enhanced version of the NHL series i've been playing for years. Not that its a bad thing, i was on the fence about buying before season ticket but now i'm leaning towards picking it up later this week barring any ridiculous franchise problems that may surface.

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                          • bukktown
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3257

                            #268
                            Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                            I'm an online 1v1 player and I've played 15 games so far. I've always been a good player who wins about 75% of the games. But this year against good opponents I have been completely dominated.

                            I have a lot to learn. It's mostly getting the hang of skating but also what's a good strategy to score.

                            I have learned that on a 2-0 breakaway you will not score with a cross crease pass and one timer because the lateral movement of the goalie is insane in this situation. If you pass it back to the original puck carrier the goal will be wide open but it is hard for me to do that right now. I often get stuck flat footed which is killing me right now on both offense and defense.

                            The poke check is real OP and I turn the pick over all of the time in both zones. The only place I play well is the neutral zone which isn't helping me very much right now!

                            Overall, I'm just frustrated and playing terrible.

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                            • Majingir
                              Moderator
                              • Apr 2005
                              • 47806

                              #269
                              Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                              Just a coincidence probably, but just had a real good game. 2 penalties per team(and 1 fight I FORCED to happen lol), and at the end when I won...the custom home win music played!

                              I doubt that anything special happened to trigger it, it was probably just a rare occurrence since it never usually works. Though I did notice that the music played but there was no horn that went off at the end of the game, so maybe the goal horn interferes with the home win music?

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                              • bwiggy33
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 2003

                                #270
                                Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                                Well I'm having a little bit more fun with the game now. The issues I've stated are still bothering me but maybe just maybe EA will fix it. It sounds like they are going to try and attempt to fix the penalty problem. Overall though I'm definitely enjoying it more. It still feels like NHL 12 with improved skating (which I'm liking a lot more). At times it's like your player is in quick sand but that's due to fatigue I'm pretty sure.

                                I hate to bring this topic up again but it truly is indescribable how terrible the goalies are in this game. I'm using Savoie's sliders with reaction on 2 and screen effect on 5. Let me tell you the sliders are in no way the issue. It is the fact that EA just has terrible goalies. Their new reading the play before it happens has completely taken out the ability to even score on a back door pass or one timer. Every time it gets stopped. Sure you can shoot shortside but what fun is doing that everytime. I've actually found you can score on that fairly regularly. Also the goalies are making saves look like gamebreaking saves every time. They flail their glove and end up on their *** after almost every shot. It's just really irritating and so over done. I'm really getting sick of hearing Thorne screaming "Oh what a save" every time because the animation the goalie does triggers the commentary. Overall I honestly can't say one good thing about the goalies at all. By far the weakest area of this series.

                                As I said earlier I am really really impressed with the puck physics. For people playing on any size but Authentic I really want to tell you to switch. You don't realize how good the puck bounces and physics are until you switch to Authentic with shadow off. I saw a puck today roll on its side all the way down the ice. Really awesome to see. It also looks great when it comes off the glass. This area of the game EA did a phenomenal job. The puck is hard to see at times but it's definitely worth it.

                                Also a tip for anyone like me who was not seeing teammates go and forecheck after dumping the puck in. You have to set your forecheck to whichever one you want but then you have to crank up the NZ/FC slider to all the way on the Forecheck side. If you don't you dump the puck in and find that all of your teammates go straight to the neutral zone coverage and wait for the opposing team to break out of their zone with ease. So basically you are just handing the puck to the opposing team. How EA has this flaw in the game is beyond me. Your AI teammates should always go in on the forecheck but the slider should more determine how hard you forecheck while inside the zone. I mean seriously what team in the NHL dumps the puck in and doesn't send any forecheckers or their D men in the zone unless it's to switch lines? Nobody. That completely defeats the purpose of dumping the puck in. I still can't believe how EA missed this problem. At least it's fixable with changing the slider to forecheck instead of nz. I highly suggest you just leave the slider permanently cranked to forecheck every single game.

                                As I think of it right now I think one thing to make this game better with getting a full on CPU forecheck is by going into create your AI and cranking up the forecheck slider for every single team. Reason I say this is because when the CPU dumps the puck in their guys are also setting up in the NZ at times which means an extremely easy breakout for me and 0 pressure from the CPU.

                                Overall though I am having a much better time with the game since I dived into it yesterday. I'm not sure if it's the fact I have to accept the game for what it is, or I'm just desperate to play an NHL game, but overall it's playing better. Hopefully it will continue to be this way and I really hope EA fixes some of the AI and gameplay problems. If they can this game could be really really good.
                                Last edited by bwiggy33; 09-10-2012, 07:01 PM.
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