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  • jyoung
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    • Dec 2006
    • 11132

    #271
    Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

    The problem is that goalies didn't get the new skating physics this year like normal skaters. Goalies are still teleporting at warp speed across the crease without any sense of weight or momentum working against them. They can literally just teleport in any direction at any time.

    That is why you still see so many ridiculous side-to-side saves.

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    • bwiggy33
      MVP
      • Jul 2006
      • 2003

      #272
      Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

      Originally posted by jyoung
      The problem is that goalies didn't get the new skating physics this year like normal skaters. Goalies are still teleporting at warp speed across the crease without any sense of weight or momentum working against them. They can literally just teleport in any direction at any time.

      That is why you still see so many ridiculous side-to-side saves.
      100%. I have brought this topic up about a thousand times on this forum and that is why some people probably hate me :wink:. It seems most of the people playing this game don't see it (which is beyond me) but it's the number one reason why the goalies are so bad.
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      • blinkfan77
        Rookie
        • Feb 2006
        • 328

        #273
        Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

        Couldn't agree more. Goalies warping from side to side looks horrible. I usually just laugh it off in disgust. Badly needs deep improvement.

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        • DrPhibes
          Rookie
          • Aug 2009
          • 386

          #274
          Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

          Originally posted by jyoung
          The problem is that goalies didn't get the new skating physics this year like normal skaters. Goalies are still teleporting at warp speed across the crease without any sense of weight or momentum working against them. They can literally just teleport in any direction at any time.

          That is why you still see so many ridiculous side-to-side saves.
          Sounds like side-to-side dekeing and cross creases are a memory.

          How is just shooting? Like are you seeing a better variety of shots going in?

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          • RoyalBoyle78
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            • May 2003
            • 23918

            #275
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            • jyoung
              Hall Of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 11132

              #276
              Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

              Originally posted by DrPhibes
              Sounds like side-to-side dekeing and cross creases are a memory.

              How is just shooting? Like are you seeing a better variety of shots going in?
              "Just shooting" is really the best scoring tactic now.

              If you try to go all NHL 12 and get fancy with dekes and one-timers you will turn the puck over incessantly and probably never score unless a puck goes off a body/skate and deflects in randomly.

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              • orion523
                All Star
                • Aug 2007
                • 6709

                #277
                Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                Although I am disgusted about the penalty issue, I played the game a few more times and I can't help but like it. The decision now comes down to this: Do I buy the game and hope that penalties are fixed, or wait and see. Right now I'm still not sure.

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                • savoie2006
                  R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 4657

                  #278
                  Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                  So has anyone downloaded a new tuner that was supposedly put out today? I'm wondering if maybe they already addressed the penalty issue?
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                  • bukktown
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3257

                    #279
                    Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                    Originally posted by DrPhibes
                    Sounds like side-to-side dekeing and cross creases are a memory.

                    How is just shooting? Like are you seeing a better variety of shots going in?
                    Yes shots from all angles go in. Some clean and some squeeze through the goalies arms and under pads and trickle in. What I am seeing from opponents online is a lot of bad angle shots sprinting into the zone and not being able to turn the corner so the whip it at the side of my goalie and about 5% of those ricochet in off the goalies side/back/skate.

                    It is much harder to set up in zone with the flat footed cement skating and the 3x skater width poke check radius passes get deflected all the time. I think the end result will be MUCH more authentic NHL gameplay online once they tune a little bit and people normalize their play styles to the new gameplay dynamics.


                    But the big question that everybody wants to know online is how do I score? Once you see how it's done you gravitate towards that strategy over and over again. Right now the answer to that question is you try to get some space in the zone, close your eyes, and let one rip (that made me laugh when I reread it). There is no money goal currently.

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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47815

                      #280
                      Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                      Originally posted by orion523
                      Although I am disgusted about the penalty issue, I played the game a few more times and I can't help but like it. The decision now comes down to this: Do I buy the game and hope that penalties are fixed, or wait and see. Right now I'm still not sure.
                      Penalties might have been fixed..and even if it isn't, if you're deciding between now, or waiting until price drops to get it, just get it now. Price won't drop(unless someone is selling it online or something)

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                      • mike24forever
                        Old Guy
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3172

                        #281
                        Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                        Originally posted by Majingir
                        Penalties might have been fixed..and even if it isn't, if you're deciding between now, or waiting until price drops to get it, just get it now. Price won't drop(unless someone is selling it online or something)
                        I don't know if they fixed them or not, however the CPU has had 1 roughing and 1 interference penalty through 2 periods and I have had 1 high sticking and 1 interference penalty.

                        Edit: with less then a minute left in the 2nd, I got a boarding penalty.

                        Also, I'm playing 10 minute periods. At this point I am not buying into the idea that thre is an issue with the penalties in the years game.
                        Last edited by mike24forever; 09-10-2012, 09:24 PM.
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                        • adayinthelife
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1416

                          #282
                          Originally posted by savoie2006
                          So has anyone downloaded a new tuner that was supposedly put out today? I'm wondering if maybe they already addressed the penalty issue?
                          I grabbed a tuner when I booted it up a little while ago, but didn't notice much of a difference in the penalty department. I've been getting penalties every game however. Not quite enough perhaps, but they're still there.

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                          • kerosene31
                            Some say he...
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 1898

                            #283
                            Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                            Well, I've never been to a midnight release before in all my years of gaming. I just happened to be off of work this week and I figured why not?

                            Just some very initial impressions. I only played one game so far.

                            All star diffficulty
                            10 minute periods
                            Sabres (me) vs Leafs

                            I didn't play the demo very much, so I was not used to the skating and out of practice quite a bit. I got outshot like 18-3 in the 1st. I took some dumb penalties and was just playing poorly. Miller held me in there (he is rated like a God in this game) and I was only down 1-0. By the 2nd I started to get going and eventually won the game 4-1 with an empty netter.

                            Now, for the good, the bad, and the ugly:

                            The good:

                            -Game is a lot more "sloppy". You can actually poke the puck away if you are in proper position without having to time it down to the nano-second.

                            -Passing was great (not laser beam accurate all the time) and I wasn't even playing on hardcore mode yet

                            -The physics overall are even better than previous games. Things like puck battles in the corner and poke checks used to feel scripted, now they feel natural.

                            -The skating engine is great and really adds to the realism. Momentum is huge now as it should be. Passing to a player standing still is completely different than hitting him on the fly.

                            The bad (and ugly):

                            -The teammate AI needs to get better. What's strange is that the teammate AI in some ways took a step backwards. One glaring example is with a simple behind the net D to D pass. I play left D in the EASHL and often in BAP and for years if I was under pressure, I would make the easy behind the net pass to my CPU d-man. Well, this year too often the D man will stand in the right spot but for some reason will watch the puck go by. What should usually be an easy clear ends up being a nightmare. This is only made worse by the skating engine. If your d-man doesn't have great mobility (lots don't) and your partner doesn't help you out, you end up in a lot of bad situations. It is hard to describe. It kind of punishes d-men who aren't the best skaters in the world a little too much?

                            -The home team still can't see the visiting team's line choice. This was only a minor annoyance in the past, but with the new skating engine I think line matching might be a lot more important. Most of the time in the past I would roll my lines, but now if I were playing the Pens, I would pay much more attention to when Sid is on the ice and which line matches up. However there's no way to do that even if you are at home.

                            -After about a period and a half, I pretty quickly figured out that after I gain the blueline that the old move of spinning towards the boards about the top of the faceoff circle seems to send the AI into a state of total confusion. Granted, I was playing a lower ranked team, but the Sabres aren't exactly rated high either (except goalie). By the 3rd period I was able to skate across the slot and get some really crazy scoring chances (maybe I finally need to "graduate" to superstar)

                            -While the physics are great overall, there are still a few "what the heck" moments. Not a huge deal but sometimes the puck just does strange things. For example I take a weak shot right in front of the net which hits the goalie and ends up getting "punted" out to center ice. I'm not talking a kick save on a 100 mile an hour slapper, but a quick wrist shot from in close that suddenly gains a ton of momentum that seems physically impossible. Again, far from a gamebreaker, but you can end up with a few comical moments in your game.

                            -I had zero penalties in the game except for dumb ones I took when controlling a player.

                            Overall:
                            As always my negatives seem to outweigh the positives but overall I think the game is another great one.
                            Last edited by kerosene31; 09-11-2012, 01:15 AM.
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                            • Vikes1
                              Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
                              • May 2008
                              • 4102

                              #284
                              Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                              My son and I picked up our copies tonight at a midnight release.

                              We played three games and had a blast! Both of us are really liking all that was done for this years game. Great to actually have battles now trying to go through center ice. Also had a nice variety of goals that were scored. We'll be playing NHL '13' for months to come.
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                              • Qb
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 8798

                                #285
                                Re: NHL 13 Season Ticket Impressions

                                This is not the impressions thread you're looking for...

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