Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 Available Now (Updated to Include Full Details)

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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I see this too, but I won't go that far.

I'm seeing no ragdoll after gang tackling, to me it looks like a normal football game now.

No more tripping over bodies, falling down and playing spin the bottle.

lol @ spin the bottle. Its funny but when my daughter sees me playing Madden she laughs so hard after every play because of how the players are falling all over the place.

She just want to see the end of every play and cares less about the action during the game.

Hmmm... So your marketing campaign is physics, you present a demo with physics, you realize physics may be a little hard to implement, so you remove them subtlety under the disguise of patches and tuners, after waiting long enough to generate revenue through the success of your marketing campaign. How do these guys sleep at night?

I will be very honest with you. I dont like RTP in a football game. I can see where in some areas it may make things look better, but overall I think it hurts the game, and it is just way to complicated to implement correctly.

To me NCAA feels more like a grounded football game. The players control much better and are in much more control of themselves. I like scripted animations I just would like for them to keep adding much more animations that reflect momentum and weight. This way we can get much more vary animations when impact happens of any sort.

I was talking to Phobia about this , and I truly hope NCAA does not go with the IE.

RTP is very delicate and I can imagine very tough to do with a Football game.

[debauchlord]

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agreed...with fifa 13 and f1 2013 coming out the next two weeks I'll have more than enough to play.

Leaving this pile of garbage alone untill patch 3...only if patch 3 actually fix the major problems.

Here is an entertaining story for everyone:

Resumed my offline player CCM with a created player as a balanced HB. Finished preseason and then played my first game with the Ravens against the Bengals. Final score 56 - 44 to the Ravens in 11 minute quarters with 23 second accelerated clock.

The sim engine is screwed as the time that goes off for each play is not right. Andy Dalton had 76 passing attempts in the game. Ray Rice had 45 rushing attempts. 3 players had more than 200 yards receiving...unfortunately I didn't check the total amount of plays. But still, after seeing that, Madden came out of my ps3 and into my cupboard. Won't touch it before these issues are fixed.

Also, whenever I'm called into the game, we only call plays out of the shotgun formation...not a single one out of it. Happened in preseason as well.

You want to fix the sim engine? Play 7 minute quarters with no acc. clock. The super sim engine is messed because it does not take into account the acc. clock. Those 7 minute quarters (no acc. clock) give each team around 100-120 plays a game which is an average NFL football game.

What other problem do you have?

[SECElit3]

Well...didn't man to start a fire here, just asking for confirmation...

[acreyman]

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Dunno but, just saw my first pass interference call......ever! (online ccm)

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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agreed...with fifa 13 and f1 2013 coming out the next two weeks I'll have more than enough to play.

Leaving this pile of garbage alone untill patch 3...only if patch 3 actually fix the major problems.

Here is an entertaining story for everyone:

Resumed my offline player CCM with a created player as a balanced HB. Finished preseason and then played my first game with the Ravens against the Bengals. Final score 56 - 44 to the Ravens in 11 minute quarters with 23 second accelerated clock.

The sim engine is screwed as the time that goes off for each play is not right. Andy Dalton had 76 passing attempts in the game. Ray Rice had 45 rushing attempts. 3 players had more than 200 yards receiving...unfortunately I didn't check the total amount of plays. But still, after seeing that, Madden came out of my ps3 and into my cupboard. Won't touch it before these issues are fixed.

Also, whenever I'm called into the game, we only call plays out of the shotgun formation...not a single one out of it. Happened in preseason as well.

Try moving acc clock to 15 seconds. That is pretty much the amount of time a team brakes their huddle.

This may help.

[crpav]

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Yep...but nobody wants to read...or comprehend. This is nothing new.

But the lynch mob mentality persists.

We are all frustrated we have a game that is incomplete. But what else can you do?

I am playing other games. No reason to get worked up over a video game.

I understand your thoughts and agree some. I complained too and I can see how yeah it's a waste of time since what can you do right? However if a patch to fix things true long time Madden fans expect to see takes several months by then the love of football starts to lessen as basketball starts and seasons change. I myself don't care much for editing and fantasy draft rosters but when the computer AI is just plain stupid and makes for a very unrealistic play experience then that is where I draw the line. Not everyone plays online or wants to. I could play and have fun against the CPU playing madden way back on the PS2 days so why can't I/we now?

[Marvc]

What if they made you pay 40 bucks for the game than another 20 bucks for all the updates and fixes since they are obviously selling us an incomplete game of a mess alluding to bugs and glitches!

[fripperiffic]

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Here is a big one. Will the patch effect current CCM offline? Online? Or do I have to start all over?

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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<h1>Yes The Sliders Now Work for Online CC Woooooo Hooooo!</h1>

Just practicing what im going to type when a real patch comes out

[Double-J]

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Any word on whether or not they fixed the fair catch bug in the patch?

[Boltman]

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Gonna fire it up and see if there are any noticeable changes to my already started offline CCM.

[whaley]

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I'm a software developer for a living (albeit in server-side business middleware, which I'd argue is way simpler than platform game development).

This game has only been released to the public for two weeks. Depending on the bug sometimes it takes that long just to reproducible bug, triage it, and get a patch for it and get it committed to the main code line. This isn't even counting manual QA and several other things that go into the release process. This stuff isn't easy.

Chances are the stability fixes being mentioned are things that were causing actual loss of gameplay, crashing, major loss of functionality, but were only rarely occurring such that the risk of releasing the game with those bugs in there was small and they've probably been able to successfully reproduce and patch those critical issues.

Developers aren't gods and can't just simply "write more code" to fix something. Give them a break in expecting something so soon.

Of course, with this said, there are lots of warts (and CCM gameplay!) that really should be able to get patched in time for that bigger patch that people keep alluding to in 1-2 months. Realistically hold off on being disappointing until then. The fact there actually seems to be a somewhat predictable patch cycle shows that EA Sports actually does care here - I've worked in software shops that didn't care before and never bumped priority on things that caused loss of functionality for a minority of users and didn't plan a patch cycle accordingly.

[Knickerbocker]

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I get what you ppl are saying BUT ...

There have been a lot of problems the developers were aware off. Like the zone problem which is the exact same one as NCAA (they patched it) so I'm sure they could have worked on a decent patch pre release already.

Also Accel clock online CCM or injuries online CCM. Cmon someone had to have noticed that before they released it.

[steamboat]

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Complaint I am seeing a lot on these forums:

Why is it such a big deal that it needs to be looked into to simply add editing players into this game?

If you have been following Josh Looman as I have he has answered this question. Editing players can more or less make Connected Careers mode crash or not function correctly with the storylines etc. So it is likely that they have to re-do some of the coding with the storylines and the entire CCM mode to accomodate for editing of players. Last thing I want is for them to rush out editing players and then CCM crashes/freezes every time I play it because of it.

Why is it so hard to implement a fantasy draft into Connected Careers?

They would, in fact, have to rewrite the code for multiple screens of the game and fabricate a whole new screen and process. A new toggle-able option on the CCM startup screen. It alters the flow of the pre-career setup significantly. More signifantly then an edit player option even. It also could potentially lead to a destabilization of the mode if not done correctly.

Then why did they take these things out?

They did not take these things out. This is not the Madden that has existed on this console since day one. The entire code was scrapped, and they used very little of the old code in this new game. Therefore, they did not take it out. They were not able to put it back in under the new format in time.

[bucky60]

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Yep...but nobody wants to read...or comprehend. This is nothing new.
But the lynch mob mentality persists.
We are all frustrated we have a game that is incomplete. But what else can you do?
I am playing other games. No reason to get worked up over a video game.

Mob mentality? No reason to get worked up? I suppose if you are OK with this year in and year out. You are right, this is nothing new. I think the MOB wants this to change. Why should it be OK to wait 2 months after release for a sports game to be playable?