Madden NFL 13 Title Update #2 Available Now (Updated to Include Full Details)

[Boltman]

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Yea, they definitely aren't tripping all over one another post play now.

[bucky60]

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I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Centers not playing the post and tossing up threes non stop

Never, ever saw this. I never had a problem with centers tossing up 3's. Did we play the same game? I have the PC NBA2K and I never saw this.

and player roles being so incorrectly implemented they had to be turned off to play an association were major out of the box issues for NBA.

I turn player roles off so I never saw this problem and never knew their was one. But we did have the option to turn roles off.

Still not anywhere near the problems that Madden is released with.

MLB is just an all around poor game but the injury management and framerate issues were also major problem at launch.

The only significant problem I had with MLB2K was lineups being changed by the CPU because of injury management. That was the only significant problem I had with MBL2K PC. Still not the same number of issues that Madden is released with. Now I've never had The Show because it only comes out on console (why I always got MLB2K), so I might have a different view of MLB2k if I had tried The Show. I am tempted.

Still, other released are not as buggy as Madden.

[Boltman]

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Software is hardly comparable to purchasing a car anymore than its comparable to eating a bowl of soup. Its unique in that in that if it has problems, and almost inevitably will, they can be fixed. These fixes take time, yes. But be glad they exist at all. Before the current gen youd just be stuck with what came out of the box with console games. Just take a deep breath, avoid the negativity of this board and enjoy your product as is until more fixes come, or dont. But people coming on here to have one conniption fit after another every single day doesnt accomplish anything and lowers the overall experience for everyone. It would be nice to come here and not feeling like im dealing with a romper room class of children. No offense.

I think you were responding to the wrong post there

I was going to say wth? lol

I know he "liked" my post, I assume he was addressing the same poster I was.

[steamboat]

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Never, ever saw this. I never had a problem with centers tossing up 3's. Did we play the same game? I have the PC NBA2K and I never saw this.



I turn player roles off so I never saw this problem and never knew their was one. But we did have the option to turn roles off.

Still not anywhere near the problems that Madden is released with.



The only significant problem I had with MLB2K was lineups being changed by the CPU because of injury management. That was the only significant problem I had with MBL2K PC. Still not the same number of issues that Madden is released with. Now I've never had The Show because it only comes out on console (why I always got MLB2K), so I might have a different view of MLB2k if I had tried The Show. I am tempted.

Still, other released are not as buggy as Madden.

The Show > MLB2k and its not even close. I couldn't play the last 2k baseball game I tried to play it was so messed up. Similar to madden right now, but it was never fixed in the first six months.

[jpdavis82]

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We were sold a product and we'd like to use it the way we were told we could.

Imagine buying a car and being told after that they'll add the A/C knob later. It's only gonna be so long driving around hot that you give up. Yeah, it's usable but c'mon.

This is why I usually trade Madden in a quarter into the NFL season. Broken at release, patches promised, takes forever, loss of interest, trade in...

It's genious, though. They get the money and we get an unfinished product that we won't get a full return on when we trade it in.

So, yeah, people are frustrated.



Sorry, man, but I ain't buying that. It feels different but not THAT different.

Everything about Madden 13 is what they said it would be. EA told people they were making big changes this year and nobody really thought twice because of their past. Well, now it's on the consumers for not doing more research. I have not been surprised one time by something that wasn't in Madden 13 that I thought would be. I guess because I knew exactly what I was getting when I bought the game, I have been able to enjoy it more than most. To me the gameplay improvements out weigh everything else that is missing in Connected Careers compared to the old Franchise mode. I haven't enjoyed a Madden game or played one as much as I have this one since 2005. I look forward to seeing where they expand and build upon this game in the future and I am satisfied with my purchase enough this year to not feel like I was misrepresented or deceived by EA. I expect this game to improve greatly next year and the following year, but for now it is a great start with a clear direction of a brighter future.

[zionblitz21]

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what are the pros of the new patch anyone??

[bucky60]

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Connected Careers is not Franchise Mode,

Obviously.

so those features were not taken out, they were simply not added into the code that was written for Connected Careers.

They were in last year. True or false? they are not in this year. True or false? They have been removed from last year to this year. True or false?

in the end, the decision to go to CCM will be better for everyone.

I hope so. We will see. I'm still waiting for that foundation that is the future. Maybe this is it. Won't say it is until EA/Tib proves it is with future releases, but (if they add back all the lost features) it looks to have potential. Don't like 13, but looking forward to see what 14 does.

[Dogslax41]

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Never, ever saw this. I never had a problem with centers tossing up 3's. Did we play the same game? I have the PC NBA2K and I never saw this.



I turn player roles off so I never saw this problem and never knew their was one. But we did have the option to turn roles off.

Still not anywhere near the problems that Madden is released with.



The only significant problem I had with MLB2K was lineups being changed by the CPU because of injury management. That was the only significant problem I had with MBL2K PC. Still not the same number of issues that Madden is released with. Now I've never had The Show because it only comes out on console (why I always got MLB2K), so I might have a different view of MLB2k if I had tried The Show. I am tempted.

Still, other released are not as buggy as Madden.

And now you are doing exactly what most pro madden people on tthis board are doing, saying you don't see it as an issue because they aren't things that concern you. Player roles was hyped and if done correctly would have added tremendous immersion so the option to turn them off is not an excuse for them not working. Maybe the centers weren't an issue for the pc but it was as close as you can get to unplayable for console sim players.

[jjazwick]

Battlefield can give us 4 title updates that are 1gb plus with additional content, but Madden NFL football can't give us what was in a 12mb title update Maybe EA should have DICE make a football game and dump Tiburon! One could only hope that 2k comes back into the NFL!

[CajunPunk]

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Software is hardly comparable to purchasing a car anymore than its comparable to eating a bowl of soup. Its unique in that in that if it has problems, and almost inevitably will, they can be fixed. These fixes take time, yes. But be glad they exist at all. Before the current gen youd just be stuck with what came out of the box with console games. Just take a deep breath, avoid the negativity of this board and enjoy your product as is until more fixes come, or dont. But people coming on here to have one conniption fit after another every single day doesnt accomplish anything and lowers the overall experience for everyone. It would be nice to come here and not feeling like im dealing with a romper room class of children. No offense.

Obviously vehicles are different from software. If the A/C was digital, would that help you understand?

The point is that people are being sold something that doesn't work like advertised year after year. I've already given up on NCAA and I'm getting there with Madden.

Years of bad AI play calling, time outs at 1:01, bad depth chart AI a few years into franchise mode, broken sliders, broken zone/man defense, bad line play, and the list goes on. Yet another year of the "calm down, it's just a game" nonsense. EA just needs to freaking step it up, but really, they need competition. When is the license up?

And last gen Madden was almost always good (not flawless) out of the box, IMO, because they knew they had to get it right the first time.

Now, patches make devs lazy. No need to have everything tight for the release when 2 months later you can fix the bigger bugs.

It is genius.

[thebizarrojerry]

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Is the PS3 update out yet??

[bucky60]

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The Show > MLB2k and its not even close. I couldn't play the last 2k baseball game I tried to play it was so messed up. Similar to madden right now, but it was never fixed in the first six months.

That's what I've heard. The only reason I went with MLB2K was I get PC games before console games. PC games are much more modifiable. But I've heard so many great things about The Show that I'm breaking down and will get it. Looking forward to it.

[steamboat]

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To me the biggest point is that Madden 13 is not a descendant from Madden 12. It is a complete reboot of the franchise. It is as different a game as MLB 2k is from MLB the Show. We'll see which of the two the game ends up being.

[hudgenja]

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Finally got the update, going to experiment and see what if any differences it makes.

[steamboat]

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Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems that a PS2 game is infinitely easier to program then a PS3 game. And that led to the longer dev times for the average game did it not? If it did, and a game is needed on a shortened dev timetable would that not increase the potential for bugs? Logically, I believe this is true. PS3 requires a longer dev time but they cannot afford to push back the game every year to compensate for that need, thus more bugs. Particularly when they are rewriting the code from scratch. I'd personally rather a game come out every two years and get roster updates, but realistically that would kill madden.