On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

[joker232]

Okay guys....

Every year around this time I'm on the fence with purchasing this game and trying it out. There are few things I need in the game as an offline player that will get me to fork up the 60 bucks and give it a try. Guys..please help and let me know of the following:

1. Is it true that Sideline view is not available in CCM? This new franchise mode should still reflect how we watch football on Sunday (upside down view at the 50 notwithstanding). If this is true, that and the combination of not being able to watch other weekly games would keep this game in the store for me.

2. Has EA given any hint that eventhough we cannot custom anything in CCM, there may be a future patch that would at least let us edit positions and/or jersey #s?

3. Is it easy to sign whatever FA you want like in past years? I really need someone honest opinion on this one.

There are some others but I don't want to be a burden too much, at least not yet. lol Please help.

[joker232]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

EA hinted yesterday with the patch that they are working on an update for player editing. It's on the front page of OS.

Free Agents are harder to sign this year. Not impossible, but you definitely can't get just anybody you'd like without over paying a lot. Even then, some will refuse to sign with you.

Thanks a bunch Matt. Like the sound of those.

How about the sideline view. I was told by a friend who is not much of a gamer that it is in exhibition but not in CCM. Is this true? That would be bothersome.

[Nunyerbiz]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

Based on your post, I would say at least wait until the next patch is either out or fully confirmed in regards to what they will be including.

I have been primarily an offline player for this console generation, and I am actually having a pretty good time with the game. But... I never use sideline camera or watch CPU-vs-CPU games... I rarely go crazy signing free agents, usually build through draft and just sign midrange free agents as depth guys... and I rarely edit anything in the players except for occasionally switching a CB to FS or something like that... I just don't care if a guy has the wrong number or a rookie WR doesn't use gloves.

So... while I am having a lot of fun with the game... I play it differently than you seem to... For your play style, I would definitely say wait for the next patch or possibly Madden 14.

[joker232]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

Based on your post, I would say at least wait until the next patch is either out or fully confirmed in regards to what they will be including.

I have been primarily an offline player for this console generation, and I am actually having a pretty good time with the game. But... I never use sideline camera or watch CPU-vs-CPU games... I rarely go crazy signing free agents, usually build through draft and just sign midrange free agents as depth guys... and I rarely edit anything in the players except for occasionally switching a CB to FS or something like that... I just don't care if a guy has the wrong number or a rookie WR doesn't use gloves.

So... while I am having a lot of fun with the game... I play it differently than you seem to... For your play style, I would definitely say wait for the next patch or possibly Madden 14.

I hear you loud and clear.

Not being able to switch a CB to FS/SS is a major oversight because when a CB's speed rating goes down he becomes useless unless you can move him to safety.

[Nunyerbiz]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

I hear you loud and clear.

Not being able to switch a CB to FS/SS is a major oversight because when a CB's speed rating goes down he becomes useless unless you can move him to safety.

Yea, I have a feeling that if it's not patched for offline CCM I will really miss player editing once I get a draft class or two worth of rookies on my team. In M11 I saw a MLB available in the 5th round... He was undersized and not very strong, but had great speed. I hadn't spent any scouting resources on him, so knew nothing beyond what that little star graphic diagram told me... But I figured I'd grab him and he could maybe be used for human control as the MLB in dime... and I could use his speed to cover the mid zones... Well, once I got him, he had the ratings to be an absolute stud SS. I converted him and by his 2nd season he was the starter and killing it... I will miss that flexibility in M13 eventually if it's not patched back into the game.

That said, I really enjoy the on-field gameplay much more than M11/12. The new passing system is a subtle but great change... and the new physics system at least makes the game look and feel more fresh than the same animations firing over and over and over... So overall, I am pleased. As always, your mileage may vary.

[joker232]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

Yea, I have a feeling that if it's not patched for offline CCM I will really miss player editing once I get a draft class or two worth of rookies on my team. In M11 I saw a MLB available in the 5th round... He was undersized and not very strong, but had great speed. I hadn't spent any scouting resources on him, so knew nothing beyond what that little star graphic diagram told me... But I figured I'd grab him and he could maybe be used for human control as the MLB in dime... and I could use his speed to cover the mid zones... Well, once I got him, he had the ratings to be an absolute stud SS. I converted him and by his 2nd season he was the starter and killing it... I will miss that flexibility in M13 eventually if it's not patched back into the game.

That said, I really enjoy the on-field gameplay much more than M11/12. The new passing system is a subtle but great change... and the new physics system at least makes the game look and feel more fresh than the same animations firing over and over and over... So overall, I am pleased. As always, your mileage may vary.

The overall feedback of the graphic system has been more positive than in recent years which is refreshing. Converting guys to different positions is an old football tradition and is something that EA should not toss aside just for the hell of it. This is part of football...figuring out what the best position for a player is.

I will be the first to admit that I may be too much of a offline sim player for every game and have at times asked too much of sport games, especially Madden and its past deficiencies. However, if they want to continue to boast about what you see on Sunday is in Madden, then something as small as sideline view in CCM should be in the game, along with the ability to see other games. The latter has always been in the game for as long as Madden has been around and to take it out, thinking not many will miss it, is not cool at all.

Maybe they will patch these up. But with this being the only football game that matters, its hard to have to struggle every year without a real sim football game. I still can't believe the constant hours I put in to playing PS2 football games still far out-number the hours I have put in to playing PS3 football games. Who woulda thunk it? lol

I still have not gotten a difinitive answer as to whether sideline view is in CCM and not just exhibition.

[joker232]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

Just to clear things up if there is confusion...

I prefer and want to only play Madden as head coach in CC mode.

[Nunyerbiz]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

Will you control the players during the games or do you just want to call in the plays and have the CPU execute them?

Because I don't think "coach mode" in regards to having the CPU control your team and have them run the plays using pure AI works at all on M13. You pretty much have to use the sticks to make your QB do anything beyond getting sacked after the snap.

[joker232]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

Will you control the players during the games or do you just want to call in the plays and have the CPU execute them?

Because I don't think "coach mode" in regards to having the CPU control your team and have them run the plays using pure AI works at all on M13. You pretty much have to use the sticks to make your QB do anything beyond getting sacked after the snap.

I do not want to control the players any longer. I was under the impression that calling the plays and letting them run it was an option. Are you saying that it is not an option or that the AI does this but does it poorly? I thought I read numerous times that the AI can do all the plays after you call them especially QB throwing.

[Nunyerbiz]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

I do not believe the QB will auto throw after a snap. I do not play this way, so it's not something I have ever tested... But I believe that I have read other threads here that say the same thing... If you snap the ball and let go of the controller, the QB just stands there until he gets wrecked.

[joker232]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

I do not believe the QB will auto throw after a snap. I do not play this way, so it's not something I have ever tested... But I believe that I have read other threads here that say the same thing... If you snap the ball and let go of the controller, the QB just stands there until he gets wrecked.

Even in coach mode? This is truly a shocker. What is the point of being a coach in CC if you to control the QB? This is getting worse by the minute for me. I have truly been misinformed. Even NCAA13 gets this correct.

[Humdinger80]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

Okay guys....

Every year around this time I'm on the fence with purchasing this game and trying it out. There are few things I need in the game as an offline player that will get me to fork up the 60 bucks and give it a try. Guys..please help and let me know of the following:

1. Is it true that Sideline view is not available in CCM? This new franchise mode should still reflect how we watch football on Sunday (upside down view at the 50 notwithstanding). If this is true, that and the combination of not being able to watch other weekly games would keep this game in the store for me.

True but that shouldn't keep you from enjoying this amazing game.

2. Has EA given any hint that eventhough we cannot custom anything in CCM, there may be a future patch that would at least let us edit positions and/or jersey #s?

They are exploring this very issue as we speak, and hey anything's possible!.

3. Is it easy to sign whatever FA you want like in past years? I really need someone honest opinion on this one.

No, in fact I think it's almost too hard to make trades that would most definitely happen but the logic seems to be really strict this year.

There are some others but I don't want to be a burden too much, at least not yet. lol Please help.

I'll make it easy for you. Do you love NFL football? Do you love playing great video games? Well Madden 13 puts those 2 things together. Madden is BACK baby!!

[joker232]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

I'll make it easy for you. Do you love NFL football? Do you love playing great video games? Well Madden 13 puts those 2 things together. Madden is BACK baby!!

I hear you but here are the facts it seems:

No Sideline view in CCM.
No editing of players in CCM.
In Coach mode you still have to control the QB's every move in CCM.
You cannot watch other weekly games in CCM.

If they had to omit all of this just to make the game playable, that is a crying shame.

For now, I have to pass until a patch proves me otherwise. Back to NCAA13 for me.

[Humdinger80]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

I hear you but here are the facts it seems:

No Sideline view in CCM.
No editing of players in CCM.
In Coach mode you still have to control the QB's every move in CCM.
You cannot watch other weekly games in CCM.

If they had to omit all of this just to make the game playable, that is a crying shame.

For now, I have to pass until a patch proves me otherwise. Back to NCAA13 for me.

Well it's your loss, the only view I need is of that sweet spiraling football going into my receivers hands for that go ahead TD. I don't need to edit cause I don't have OCD and I'm not saying you do, but I'm just saying I don't.
I think I get more bang for my buck when I play the game with a controller using my hands. Not being able to watch games does suck tho I'll give you that. Idk I'm just glad I love the NFL and Ive got a game with NFL players that I love to play. I don't care about college player till they get to the NFL.

[sharebear420]

Re: On fence to purchase Madden...Please help

I'm in the same boat as you, since the ps2 days my friends and I have done offline co op franchises and played for money or just for fun. We would either all pick our fav teams or just to a fantasy draft, and seein as I always beat my friends, we agreed to let the cpu duke it out when our games came up, we would just watch from the sideline like watching a real game. It was an amazing experience and that's all we have done in madden for a long time. It really saddens me that madden is lacking this much depth this year with such good gameplay. Hopefully in 2014 they will add editing players, total sim control, fantasy drafts, forced trades, multiple offline team franchises... Hopefully... lol