FIFA 13 Demo Available Now - Post Your Impressions

[iaxy]

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Dropping the length/width/height along with slowing down the game has made it absolutely incredible.

You mean changing these parameters on the camera angle?

[bigeastbumrush]

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If you are strictly or mostly an online gamer, I think this is the game to get for sure. Offline, not so sure.

^^sums up my feelings perfectly.

[Panicshade]

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You mean changing these parameters on the camera angle?

No...he is talking about the sliders for Positioning Length, Width, and Height

[Qb]

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You mean changing these parameters on the camera angle?

No, I'm sure he means in the User/CPU game customization sliders. There are options for defensive line height, length, and width.

[zanner]

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Played Fifa early 90's on Sega and PS1 World Cup. Then on PS2 and CPU, played Winning Eleven/PES in the late 90's/2000-01 . I went on hiatus on soccer games until ESPN ran an insider deal to get the last world cup game. I got that and purchased Fifa 11 a few months before Fifa 12 release. I played Fifa 12 last year. I've sworn off NCAA and Madden, and did enjoy the PES latest demo comparatively to Fifa 12.

That gives some perspective on my First Impressions - Because for the most part, the better than expected PES demo and the FIFA videos , I was really open to possibly foregoing Ultimate Team this season and just grind out only offline as much as I enjoy online.. And now the Fifa demo is out, I can't say that it's even the case :

First of all, the videos I've seen made me nervous; however, my first impression once in the game is that I clearly don't play like guys in the video and the cpu is not playing me like they played the guys in the demo. I was very, very impressed with the Gameplay, and for the most part speed (ya, I can use a notch down on speed, but isn't really an issue for me at the moment.) In fact, in may depend on how I played the PES demo compared to how I play Fifa, defending wise, but as much as PES is hyped on this "build up" and "attacking AI" aspect of the game I was honestly more impressed with FIFA 13 Demo's as far as attacking and/or buildup last night playing against Arsenal and Juventus as ManCity and AC Milan. Arsenal, came at me because I was too aggressive and they had the speed to get me. With AC MIlan, I made sure to stay in front of players, and Juventus pulled the ball back to midfield and also, first time I can remember and happened they switched the field on me over to Giovinco who then had some space to move forward. I actually thought the attacking and passing back was existent and done very well and I thought it better than PES for me (And that may have to do with more of a familiarity with defending controls in Fifa series)

Branching off of this - The CPU IS MUCH MUCH IMPROVED, and excellent. The players want the ball, and they'll make runs into space to try and receive the ball. Last year when I would get around the box, I felt stuck. Either shoot into a defender or give the ball up trying to dribble past defenders. This year, on multiple occasions I've had a teammate move into space or run angled into space in the box. Just feels good to feel like the teammates will make runs, and not just stand there or having to have runs having to be initiated by yourself on a give and go.


First touch and the handling is absolutely excellent, really something as simple as this changes the game so much from last year for the better. It really feels a lot more fluid of a game and a lot more of an organic, living feeling while playing a game.

With that the physics feel good and improved on last year as far as players are concerned. As far as the ball, passes, shots, and touch.. MUCH MUCH improved. I really liked PES Demo 1's feel of the ball, Demo 2 I was less of a fan for some reason - On Fifa 13 Demo, it feels better than PES Demo 1. The ball has weight and really seems like a size 5, pumped up high real ball would act on touches. It may be the combo of first touch and the ball that acts effect, but I really feel like they nailed it as far as the "weight" and "feel" of the ball.

And holy moly, they have FOULS! This absolutely killed me last year on how the CPU would never ever commit a foul. That's no longer the case imo judging from the demo. The cpu actually committed more fouls than me in more games than not. On such short halves, the foul counts were around 1 or 2 for me and 2 or 3 for the cpu. I really felt like I could trap the ball in position with Pato or Rubinho and draw a foul if I was methodical with my dribble. Last year, trapping the ball the defender would shoot out of the cannon and just take it from you with no call even if your player flopped on the ground like a fish after being tanked.. HUGE Thumbs up to EA if the fouling system stays and/or improves in the final release.

And I don't know what some people are talking about regarding the defender's headers being overpowered and the offense having no chance? I've not had this experience, I feel like it's a fair shot depending on who has the better position or angle when the ball is in the air. I felt like I lost aerial wars where I should, and won some that I hustled for position and should have won.

Also, I've got to mention the CPU actually taking open shots and chances from outside of the box. Which means they're working the ball to the middle around the box which is less sideline crossing type of game over and over. On the flip side, the defending on the sideline and the delay crossing during full speed sprint combined with the defender leg out animation doesn't make crossing as automatic. As it turns out, I had to pick my shots when I had a back sprinting sideline with space to put it out to him for a cross. I believe Fifa 13 has improved this aspect to make it less reliable and more realistic.


The negatives for me : I still think PES demos had a hand up when it comes to rebounds off of shots. While I think this demo shows some improvement from CPU AI TEAMMATES on attacking rebounds, I do feel they stand for a moment to long before reacting. Better than last year, but I think they should still be more intelligent on rebounding saves.

I would also like to see a little bit more individuality similar to PES which would allow CPU AI to take you on a little better 1 on 1. It's a small sample size of players in the Fifa DEMO and the teams I played against didn't necessarily have the Neymars or Ronaldos that will attack a defender one on one with flash and brilliance, but I still feel it's something that will need to improve next year.


Overall, I am unbelievably pleased with this DEMO! I was really nervous that this game would be FIfa 12, with a few gimmicks and the same faults (especially foul issues) in which point would have made me real disappointed. However, from my first 2 hour sit down with the demo yesterday - I think the improvements made and just the general feel and gameplay is really surprising to me and highly welcomed by me.

[Panicshade]

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About those defensive line adjustments...I have a question and it may seem like a stupid question to ask but here goes...

The width (from side to side) and height (how far up the field) sliders are easy to understand...but what does the length slider change?

[artmind]

My choice is PES 2013 this year, definitely. It's more natural, more authentic game. I think people from old world would choice PES, because it's just more real, that's what we called football not soccer I think this must called PEF, Pro Evolution Football.
Fifa players feels like puppets, I don't feel the ground, they fly over the pitch. No individuality on players and teams, unrealistic pace. Very arcadish game.

[zanner]

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I'll also add that I attacked with man City, and the ref eventually blew the play dead when I stalled or loss possession, can't remember. Turns out Toure was back at midfield and had gotten injured at some point I didn't notice.

The ref then dropped the ball to Arsenal, and they kicked it all the way back to my defenders, and the announcers talked about the sportsmanship being shown. That was real cool.

[RaptorMania]

Not impressed at all, its basically 12.5. The gameplay is too damn fast, I can't tell the difference between any of the players and they all change direction on a dime. The players look like barbie dolls and the skin textures are awful.

Still the same arcade fifa, maybe by next gen they will have watched an actual footy game and might learn a thing or to.

[IowaAJ]

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I like it but I felt like the only way to score was get on a break away and I just didn't feel like the CPU played like they should. The game isn't bad but I'm going to play it some more and also wait for the Season ticket to make my final decision.

[artmind]

Not impressed at all, its basically 12.5. The gameplay is too damn fast, I can't tell the difference between any of the players and they all change direction on a dime. The players look like barbie dolls and the skin textures are awful.

Still the same arcade fifa, maybe by next gen they will have watched an actual footy game and might learn a thing or to.

That's what I'm talking about. EA might learn something only after PES 2014 with new engine will smash'em, but it will be too late

[zanner]

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I found that instead of trying to sprint with one player at an angle towards an attacking CPU player (Which I forgot to mention I think Stamina system is going to be much better this year judging from demo), if you actually control a guy in front of that attacker and take away the straight away lane down the sideline, and subsequently play defense IN front of the ball, then the CPU will move the ball back and change the sides of the fields.

IMO, Professionals in real life would play the same way. PES, I felt like there was way TOO many through balls from the CPU AI and the changing of players were clunky, but again - I attribute the many through balls and attack from PES Demo on the fact that I wasn't necessarily playing the proper defense and taking away options rather than blaming the game...

It was pretty easy for PES to improve, a little hard for Fifa on a large scale but I still feel that the Demo of Fifa 13 really improves a lot on Fifa 12 - I was worried it would suffer the same fate as Madden and NCAA did with me and get me off the bandwagon for being a 12.5 , and Impressions from the Demo I feel great about my pre order and purchase and imo it's 13 on it's own merit gameplay wise.

[Qb]

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It is possible to give one's impressions of the FIFA13 demo without repeatedly professing one's preference for PES. In fact, one's feelings regarding PES are mostly irrelevant to one's impression of the FIFA13 demo. As such, please do your best to give your impressions of the game under discussion, not a status update on your purchasing plans.

I have tried to make it clear that I'm not a hardline "no comparison/discussion" or "the other game" guy. But, I would really like to keep impressions threads focused on impressions of the game in question. I understand comparing an aspect of the two games can be useful in conveying your opinion of one game. However, that's not always necessary, and it's certainly not necessary to constantly refer to one's preference for either game.

And yes, this applies to both the FIFA & PES forums, I just happen to be in here at the moment.

[pk500]

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It is possible to give one's impressions of the FIFA13 demo without repeatedly professing one's preference for PES. In fact, one's feelings regarding PES are mostly irrelevant to one's impression of the FIFA13 demo. As such, please do your best to give your impressions of the game under discussion, not a status update on your purchasing plans.

How the hell can you not compare? Soccer is the only stick-and-ball sports genre with longtime, annual competitive products on all console platforms.

EA has a monopoly on the NFL, college football, golf and hockey. 2K Sports has a monopoly on the NBA and MLB, as the new NBA Live doesn't count and The Show is a PS3 exclusive.

So of course people are going to compare games. It's natural. And it will happen in this thread, not the PES demo thread, because the FIFA demo was released after the two PES demos.

When you test-drive a car, do you not compare the handling, feel, fit and finish of that vehicle to others you have driven? This is no different.

The level of discussion and comparison about the two games has been quite mature and rational in this thread. Long may these comparisons continue. They make us more educated gamers and force developers to create and release better games.

[Panicshade]

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This isn't a case of a person saying one thing about the other game and then getting banned for it. They had been asked to stop multiple times in other threads and didn't.