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  • daddytorgo
    Rookie
    • Feb 2006
    • 38

    #166
    Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

    Originally posted by Gnemi
    I tried it at 42 and thought it felt like the players were running in mud.
    I have a feeling each individual is going to have to find their own perfect setting within a broad range based upon their reaction time and stuff. That would make sense.

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    • Broncos86
      Orange and Blue!
      • May 2009
      • 5505

      #167
      Originally posted by daddytorgo
      I have a feeling each individual is going to have to find their own perfect setting within a broad range based upon their reaction time and stuff. That would make sense.
      Yup. Last year, I recall a giant discussion about Madden with regard to which speed was more realistic. Some said slow, others said very fast. Personal preference and perception rule the day.

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      • Gnemi
        Rookie
        • Jan 2012
        • 1519

        #168
        Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

        Right now, I have Sprint/Accel at 45/45, Shot/Pass Speed at 45/45 for both, and Shot/Pass Error at 55/65 for CPU.

        It's really good...I'm a bit stunned right now by how the game is playing. It's got a deliberate (some might call it slow) pace with an assortment of midfield and wing play. It's varied and fun.

        The defense is a bit shaky though, so I can imagine scoring being a bit high. We'll see.

        By the way, I'm going to be redfaced if this was in last year's edition, but the Co-Op camera is friggin' amazing. It's the only camera view I'll use.

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        • bad_philanthropy
          MVP
          • Jul 2005
          • 12167

          #169
          Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

          I'm disappointed with the direction the developers have taken in the default tuning the game. I was encouraged last year, as it seemed like they were slowing things down a bit and inviting more tactical play, but after playing the '13 demo (slow/legendary), I can't believe how fast things are, how overly precise players are to control, and the flow is just back and forth. Hopefully the full version will differ.

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          • electrickeeper
            Immense Dimension
            • Aug 2006
            • 420

            #170
            Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

            Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
            I'm disappointed with the direction the developers have taken in the default tuning the game. I was encouraged last year, as it seemed like they were slowing things down a bit and inviting more tactical play, but after playing the '13 demo (slow/legendary), I can't believe how fast things are, how overly precise players are to control, and the flow is just back and forth. Hopefully the full version will differ.
            I've caught myself saying this time after time (about multiple games). I can count on one hand the amount of times the full version has differed from the demo.
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            • Broncos86
              Orange and Blue!
              • May 2009
              • 5505

              #171
              The one thing I noticed was the new first touch stuff. I had guys lose the ball and really noticed the more skilled players were able to make better touches.

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              • daddytorgo
                Rookie
                • Feb 2006
                • 38

                #172
                Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                Originally posted by bad_philanthropy
                I'm disappointed with the direction the developers have taken in the default tuning the game. I was encouraged last year, as it seemed like they were slowing things down a bit and inviting more tactical play, but after playing the '13 demo (slow/legendary), I can't believe how fast things are, how overly precise players are to control, and the flow is just back and forth. Hopefully the full version will differ.
                Sliders man. Sliders.

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                • hyacinth1
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1537

                  #173
                  Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                  I started playing FIFA just last year. I played WC2010 and loved it, but I really didn't get into it like hardcore players have, but it was fun.

                  So FIFA 12 I started as a brand new videogame soccer player and started from rookie and worked my way up to Legendary in some 7-8 mo time frame. I thought for someone like me who was a casual soccer gamer, FIFA 12 was the prefect game.

                  Now FIFA 13, it' just adds to FIFA 12, but I am not sure by how much. I enjoyed the demo, and I liked that touch thing they have this year,but I felt like FIFA 13 demo was easier than FIFA 12.

                  The new features this year look great, and online is going to be probably the the place to be. I am happy the game is improved but at the same time, I am not sure how much better it will be than FIFA 12 for offline play.

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                  • AnnihilusLivius
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 623

                    #174
                    Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                    I suggest one thing only for the people who found FIFA 13 demo boring and such. Try playing it on legendary with manual settings or auto if you feel the need to. I assure you...you're gonna love it. Everything feels so natural, plays like a real football game. Competely hooked with the demo. Can't wait for the game to drop.

                    The only negative thing i found playing was the freaking bouncy passes, it's annoying really.
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                    • UK0wnag3
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 1210

                      #175
                      Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                      Tried to download it Tuesday night, only to find my router had stopped working. So two days and a new router later, i was finally able to have a go.

                      First impressions, the game seems a lot harder this year. I usually play Legendary/Manual, but I'm using professional on the the demo as I like to leave myself a learning curve for the proper game, but so far I've been routinely played off the park and am yet to score in my four matches.

                      There's some new animations in there and the game is altogether aesthetically pleasing. Not decided on how much I like the first touch system, but fortunately I am seeing the AI take poor touches and make poor passes. I also like how shooting has more zip to it, as in previous years players with poor power ratings were equivalent to pre-schoolers when trying to shoot from outside the area.

                      Dissapointingly, through four games I'm still yet to be fouled by the AI, I'm still yet to win a free kick even. And there is still NO midfield, pretty much. And there is still no difference between the playstyles of one team to the next.

                      However, the new features with a hopefully in-depth career mode will give me more than enough to sink my teeth into, so I see no reason to cancel my pre-order.
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                      • KG
                        Welcome Back
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 17583

                        #176
                        Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                        Originally posted by AnnihilusLivius
                        I suggest one thing only for the people who found FIFA 13 demo boring and such. Try playing it on legendary with manual settings or auto if you feel the need to. I assure you...you're gonna love it. Everything feels so natural, plays like a real football game. Competely hooked with the demo. Can't wait for the game to drop.

                        The only negative thing i found playing was the freaking bouncy passes, it's annoying really.
                        Yeah I play on manual and it makes it more rewarding for me but too bad it doesn't apply to the CPU who completes ~90% of their passes despite tweaking the pass error slider.

                        I will say that Juvenuts plays a slower game (would love to see their CTT but it's greyed out).

                        One that thing that is becoming more evident is the lack of closing down by my own player in the box. Playing as Dortmund I was shocked to see the CPU controlled Hummels and Subotic just standing flat-footed in the box. On the other end the CPU defenders would throw themselves in front of shot.

                        Presentation is better than last year. The skill games that load pre-match are fun and help you hone your manual skills. The music that plays before the match creates a nice build-up and the commentary seems to flow better. I gave up a goal to Giroud in the 9th minute and the announcer made a reference like "Arsenal in nine".

                        Does anyone know if we can choose our own weather/time in the retail version? I like that touch in the demo.
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                        • Altimus
                          Chelsea, Assemble!
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 27283

                          #177
                          Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                          Ok well here is my biggest issue which might be the game breaker for me. This problem was in last year just wasn't as bad. Player marking the box is non-existent in this game. I was playing on Legendary and these two plays made me put the controller down and play the PES demo.

                          On the counter I end up with Walcott and Giroud in the box. At the time there are 6 Dortmund defenders in the box. Walcott is right outside the box. With him I'm able to go, stop, bring it back into the box and lose the defender on him. No one closes on Walcott and I'm able to easily cross the ball to Giroud who is standing a few feet from the goal. As the ball is getting crossed to him only one, just one of the five defenders in the box are anywhere near him and the one near is not even marking him. Giroud easily heads the ball in the back of the net. A goal but no rewarding feeling. Just cheapness.

                          Same game Lewandowski is getting marked by me. He gets pushed outside as he shoots and the ball gets knocked back outside the box to a running Kuba who at the time had Diaby and Areta next to him who just proceed to stop outside the box. Kuba runs toward the ball and puts it in the back of the net. Another cheap goal. I much rather have both defenders rush him, and even foul him and give up a PK then just stop and let him have a free one.

                          As much as they've improved the offensive side of the ball, like I mentioned when the news came that defense is non-existent and this demo has proved it. I can overlook a lot of stuff in this game but this I just can't. Watching Legendary defending in the box is the same as watching the lowest difficulty. Unacceptable.

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                          • ezio
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2853

                            #178
                            Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                            After playing the demo for a few days I don't really like it. It seems similar to last year even with the changes they made. You can get the speed to be less of an issue with sliders but even doing so the CPU attack to me still feels very straightforward and direct. There still is very little build up play and they are always looking to attack.

                            In addition, while there are more runs being made they also seem to be straightforward runs as well and they rarely look to open up spaces in other areas. It still is not fun playing the CPU IMO. I also don't see much difference in teams/players but that could be because of the team's in the demo. All and all not impressed. Will probably still try the early release but I don't think I am getting it this year.

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                            • lnin0
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 1507

                              #179
                              Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                              Originally posted by KG
                              Yeah I play on manual and it makes it more rewarding for me but too bad it doesn't apply to the CPU who completes ~90% of their passes despite tweaking the pass error slider.
                              Exactly. I have the CPU pass error slider cranked up to the 90s and the pass speed notched down a few yet they are consistently passing in the high 80 and 90%. I had one game against AC Milan where they actually passed at 78%.

                              I have been able to expose a little more of a middle game by keeping my defenders in place and taking forward passes away from the CPU but in general they still try to push the ball forward more so than crossing to the other side or passing back.

                              OMFG what is up with defending in the box? Get between the player and the goal. I cannot tell you how many times my team stands not only behind a striker in the box but also on the opposite side of the ball. I know we want to avoid comparisons but seeing how much better defenders react in the box on PES makes this all the more disappointing.

                              I am also scared that the 'no calls' bug or feature from last year still exist in CPU games. I have seen maybe 2 called fouls against the CPU and no cards while at the same time I have racked up a half dozen cards. I have also only seen one offsides call and have played several hours of the demo. I know EA bragged about the AI attackers being smarter about offsides but they should not be perfect.

                              Back to the comparison thing but I think PES CPU feels better in many respects because they feel more human. They get into better position, make smarter runs yet still aren't perfect. EAs AI, in all its games, has always struggled to walk that line. EA tends to run either hot or cold in AI games. They are either too psychic or too stupid and they can never find the balance between.

                              Overall I am liking the feel of the game. The first touch makes a huge different and the jostling seems to have a better balance as well. EA gave a lot of toys to the offense but man for man it at least feels like there will be a pretty even battle. It remains to be seen how even that battle will be once you get into the box and the defenders break down or how arcade players will find to abuse it. It is hard to tell but it also seem like stamina may come into play once we get longer matches. Hopefully it is not reset all the way back to 100% at the half. Sprint abusers who run their guys into the ground for an entire half should not see them regain all of their stamina over a short half time break.

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                              • Qb
                                All Star
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 8797

                                #180
                                Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                                Originally posted by lnin0
                                Overall I wish the speed was more like 12. Slow is not an option online and the new normal is just insanely fast. I am going to wait and see what I hear about the retail release. If a lot of the little stuff in this demo isn't tweaked by release then I will probably skip it.
                                In 12 we could at least select the game speed and controls when inviting someone to an online friendlies match. It'd be nice if there was a manual Head-to-Head seasons, but as you implied with your search failures, the user base likely isn't there. I think there are manual players out there, but they tend to stay away from ranked play because of the style. I know I do.


                                Originally posted by Altimus
                                As much as they've improved the offensive side of the ball, like I mentioned when the news came that defense is non-existent and this demo has proved it. I can overlook a lot of stuff in this game but this I just can't. Watching Legendary defending in the box is the same as watching the lowest difficulty. Unacceptable.
                                This is similar to my biggest gripe with the game. There is little urgency from CPU defenders, especially on the user side. Not only around the box, where it should be easily apparent, but also as the ball moves around the pitch. The defense simply isn't active/reactive enough without user input, and even then we're only one player (plus iffy secondary contain).

                                The line sliders can help make it more compact, but this it's more than just positioning, it's about AI behavior. I absolutely DO NOT want it to go back to super-pressure auto-tackling from pre-FIFA12, but the new containment focused system requires more active & aware NPCs to flourish.

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