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  • foster1979
    Rookie
    • Oct 2011
    • 20

    #196
    Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

    Will be very interested to see how Krebstars Custom Tactics work for this game. I think it is the best fifa ever.

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    • dubcity
      Hall Of Fame
      • May 2012
      • 17872

      #197
      Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

      Originally posted by Altimus
      This is why there is no reward feeling to it... the defender should be in my back pocket and he's not. They need to get some of the Stoke defenders in the office for FIFA 14.
      I seriously don't understand the logic with the AI defenders. It's like they play this bastardized, ineffectual combination of zonal and man D. The worst parts of both strategies. And increasing the marking sliders just opens up a whole 'nother can of worms; they play too tight at midfield, and you can make 2 passes and have just one defender between you and goalkeeper. But I could go on for hours about how frustrating the sliders are in general.

      The FIFA 12 D was bad enough, but it's absolutely ridiculous in this demo. Even at higher difficulty settings.
      Last edited by dubcity; 09-13-2012, 08:00 PM.

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      • razorkaos
        MVP
        • Aug 2011
        • 1177

        #198
        Did you guys know that RVP is in the demo? i dont know if it works on PC and PS3 versions, but, on the xbox, start the demo. in the main menu, logout from xbox live, then log in again. choose Arsenal, and you will find RVP there.
        PSN ID/Street Fighter V Fighter ID: razorkaos

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        • Gnemi
          Rookie
          • Jan 2012
          • 1519

          #199
          Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

          As much as I'd like to think EA will listen to the complaints about AI defending, don't hold your breath.

          You'd think they'd go all out and make AI defending really tight and difficult on Legendary.

          It's as though something in the engine of the game doesn't allow for useful defense. The cheap cut-in from the edge of the box goal that's being described wouldn't happen if the CPU merely marked!

          By the way, I haven't experimented with CPU marking slider but I'll go ahead and assume it makes little or no difference to the observations of Altimus et al.

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          • RoyceDa59
            Chillin
            • Aug 2003
            • 3830

            #200
            Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

            Originally posted by Gnemi
            As much as I'd like to think EA will listen to the complaints about AI defending, don't hold your breath.

            You'd think they'd go all out and make AI defending really tight and difficult on Legendary.

            It's as though something in the engine of the game doesn't allow for useful defense. The cheap cut-in from the edge of the box goal that's being described wouldn't happen if the CPU merely marked!

            By the way, I haven't experimented with CPU marking slider but I'll go ahead and assume it makes little or no difference to the observations of Altimus et al.
            Zero difference even maxed out, it was the same last year.

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            • rckabillyRaider
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 4382

              #201
              Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

              Been messing with the sliders and just had probably the best match I've played so far, gameplay and AI wise. Played on legendary, slow speed. PS3 btw. I was Man City vs Arsenal. They actually outshot me 5-2 and they only had 1 shot on target. Much better than the usual perfect shooting we see from the cpu. They also outpossessed me 53-47. Their pass accuracy was 80%. Game ended 0-0 after fulltime. Here are the slider settings: (user/cpu)

              sprint 40/40
              accel 42/42
              shot error 50/60
              pass error 50/100
              shot speed 46/46
              pass speed 40/40
              injury freq 50/50
              inj sev 50/50
              gk ability 65/65
              marking 65/100
              run freq 50/50
              line height 0/0
              line length 75/50
              line width 45/45
              fullback position 50/50


              EDIT: played a rematch which I won 1-0 off a Silva freekick goal. Played out pretty good also. This time I outshot them 4-1 and their shot was not on target. They outpossessed me 51-49. Their pass accuracy was 77%
              Last edited by rckabillyRaider; 09-13-2012, 10:23 PM.

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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #202
                Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                I'll have to give these a shot later tonight.

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                • Gnemi
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1519

                  #203
                  Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                  Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
                  Been messing with the sliders and just had probably the best match I've played so far, gameplay and AI wise. Played on legendary, slow speed. PS3 btw. I was Man City vs Arsenal. They actually outshot me 5-2 and they only had 1 shot on target. Much better than the usual perfect shooting we see from the cpu. They also outpossessed me 53-47. Their pass accuracy was 80%. Game ended 0-0 after fulltime. Here are the slider settings: (user/cpu)

                  sprint 40/40
                  accel 42/42
                  shot error 50/60
                  pass error 50/100
                  shot speed 46/46
                  pass speed 40/40
                  injury freq 50/50
                  inj sev 50/50
                  gk ability 65/65
                  marking 65/100
                  run freq 50/50
                  line height 0/0
                  line length 75/50
                  line width 45/45
                  fullback position 50/50


                  EDIT: played a rematch which I won 1-0 off a Silva freekick goal. Played out pretty good also. This time I outshot them 4-1 and their shot was not on target. They outpossessed me 51-49. Their pass accuracy was 77%
                  So I just gave these settings a shot. I was outshot 6-2. The CPU shot accuracy was 66% and their passing accuracy was 73%. The CPU had 42% of possession. 1 foul was called per team.

                  Tackles are still a bit broken in FIFA 13. It's very difficult to tackle and the CPU had 8 successful tackles in this match.

                  I have to say though, 40 pass speed is far too slow for my liking. You have to hit the ball at full power every time just to put some pace on it. I know the idea is to slow down the game's tempo, but it resembled 22 senior citizens out for a stroll before the Sunday buffet.

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                  • rckabillyRaider
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4382

                    #204
                    Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                    Originally posted by Gnemi
                    So I just gave these settings a shot. I was outshot 6-2. The CPU shot accuracy was 66% and their passing accuracy was 73%. The CPU had 42% of possession. 1 foul was called per team.

                    Tackles are still a bit broken in FIFA 13. It's very difficult to tackle and the CPU had 8 successful tackles in this match.

                    I have to say though, 40 pass speed is far too slow for my liking. You have to hit the ball at full power every time just to put some pace on it. I know the idea is to slow down the game's tempo, but it resembled 22 senior citizens out for a stroll before the Sunday buffet.
                    sliders will definitely vary based on users like, dislikes, skill, etc....

                    I like passing speed at 40 because I usually play a short passing game to break down the defense and then put in a through ball which still has pace. I don't think the slider affects through balls?

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                    • ohvitser12
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 487

                      #205
                      Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                      Originally posted by stmark
                      http://www.ea.com/soccer/videos/ugc/135057781

                      my best goal playing the demo
                      How do you do such shots? Really aamzing :P

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                      • Panicshade
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 819

                        #206
                        Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                        Originally posted by rckabillyRaider
                        sliders will definitely vary based on users like, dislikes, skill, etc....

                        I like passing speed at 40 because I usually play a short passing game to break down the defense and then put in a through ball which still has pace. I don't think the slider affects through balls?
                        The passing speed slider says it only effects ground passes and nothing else. So through balls, lob passes, etc. shouldn't be changed.
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                        • Gnemi
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1519

                          #207
                          Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                          Good to know, thanks gents!

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                          • Qb
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 8797

                            #208
                            Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                            Originally posted by Gnemi
                            As much as I'd like to think EA will listen to the complaints about AI defending, don't hold your breath.

                            You'd think they'd go all out and make AI defending really tight and difficult on Legendary.

                            It's as though something in the engine of the game doesn't allow for useful defense. The cheap cut-in from the edge of the box goal that's being described wouldn't happen if the CPU merely marked!

                            By the way, I haven't experimented with CPU marking slider but I'll go ahead and assume it makes little or no difference to the observations of Altimus et al.
                            I raised User/CPU marking in 12 to around 65-70. I found if you went higher, the defense would play even worse because there was no regard for keeping its shape. Took me a few very high-scoring games to figure that out. I had a run of games in the CM of 4-3, 4-4, 6-3... it was nuts.

                            As for EA listening... FWIW, I was asked by a dev for my thoughts on the demo. I didn't hold back.

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                            • Gnemi
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1519

                              #209
                              Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                              Originally posted by Qb
                              As for EA listening... FWIW, I was asked by a dev for my thoughts on the demo. I didn't hold back.
                              Nice!

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                              • ZoneBlitz
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 1402

                                #210
                                Re: FIFA 13 Demo Available Now For PC & 360, Later Today For PS3 - Post Your Impressi

                                Originally posted by Qb
                                I raised User/CPU marking in 12 to around 65-70. I found if you went higher, the defense would play even worse because there was no regard for keeping its shape. Took me a few very high-scoring games to figure that out. I had a run of games in the CM of 4-3, 4-4, 6-3... it was nuts.

                                As for EA listening... FWIW, I was asked by a dev for my thoughts on the demo. I didn't hold back.
                                I hope they listen to you. It seems they just haven't addressed the issue for years. My players are so passive on defense. Did you let them know that? I hope they tweak that in the final build.

                                Thanks for being our representatives to the developers.
                                When the game is on the line, winners want the ball.

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