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  • bigeastbumrush
    My Momma's Son
    • Feb 2003
    • 19245

    #91
    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

    This game is just simply a better representation of the sport.

    I'm a casual gamer and there were only maybe 2-3 shots on goal in the entire whopping 10 minutes of action.

    In the other game..at least 10 shots would have been taken.

    Definitely takes some time to get used to the difference in controls. But wow..this is some good gaming.

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    • demencia_total
      Bring back College Hoops
      • Dec 2006
      • 708

      #92
      Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
      This game is just simply a better representation of the sport.

      I'm a casual gamer and there were only maybe 2-3 shots on goal in the entire whopping 10 minutes of action.

      In the other game..at least 10 shots would have been taken.

      Definitely takes some time to get used to the difference in controls. But wow..this is some good gaming.
      Agree 110%. I've been all for FIFA the last 5 years or so, but after playing the demo I agree wholeheartedly. I still think that when FIFA is played all-manual with another sim minded player it can be a totally different game, but the reality is that I mostly play against the CPU. This truly feels like football, whereas FIFA feels more like a constant forward dash to score without any real tactics.

      First day buy. Might give FIFA a break this year, or at the very least I won't be purchasing it at launch.

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      • RaptorMania
        Rookie
        • Aug 2009
        • 116

        #93
        Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

        I use field side, but for night games the field colour looks really off, so I have switched to wide view. I so wish there was a custom camera, would have been that much better.

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        • RoyceDa59
          Chillin
          • Aug 2003
          • 3830

          #94
          Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by RaptorMania
          I use field side, but for night games the field colour looks really off, so I have switched to wide view. I so wish there was a custom camera, would have been that much better.
          Yeah PES need to improve their night game lighting, I read next year they will.

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          • Matt10
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2006
            • 16693

            #95
            Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by demencia_total
            Agree 110%. I've been all for FIFA the last 5 years or so, but after playing the demo I agree wholeheartedly. I still think that when FIFA is played all-manual with another sim minded player it can be a totally different game, but the reality is that I mostly play against the CPU. This truly feels like football, whereas FIFA feels more like a constant forward dash to score without any real tactics.

            First day buy. Might give FIFA a break this year, or at the very least I won't be purchasing it at launch.
            Dem - is it really you? Where have you been, man!? Glad you're thinking about PES this year.

            You are def correct about FIFA all manual - can't beat it. Try it on broadcast cam and it's even more of a challenge.

            We are very lucky in this sport, gents. September/October is looking exciting already!
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            • demencia_total
              Bring back College Hoops
              • Dec 2006
              • 708

              #96
              Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by Matt10
              Dem - is it really you? Where have you been, man!? Glad you're thinking about PES this year.

              You are def correct about FIFA all manual - can't beat it. Try it on broadcast cam and it's even more of a challenge.

              We are very lucky in this sport, gents. September/October is looking exciting already!
              Hey man, been busy but still alive. You playing on PS3 or PC? You know, if the demo is representative of the final product I'd be very happy even if you don't have the freedom that you have in FIFA. CPU teammates seem to actually WANT the ball instead of pretending like its nowhere near them. 2013 seems to have removed the "on rails" feel that plagued it for ages, and that makes me a happy camper (once you turn off most of the assist options).

              The only two things that still bother me a bit are free kicks and how the dribbling moves are mapped. I don't really understand how to beat the wall in this game and special moves seem way too finicky in most cases, although I guess it prevents it from becoming a trick dribbling contest. I rarely used crazy moves in FIFA and I don't plan on starting now. Guess I'll get used to it.

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              • Altimus
                Chelsea, Assemble!
                • Nov 2004
                • 27283

                #97
                Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                There's a member on pesgaming with an early copy... some of the impressions:

                Ok, played a half. VERY encouraging, although it is basically the same as Demo 2 with a bit of tuning to smooth out the fps.

                Shooting is great, if still not as good as golden-era PES it is much better than that in the FIFA 13 demo.
                This is good news. This means they haven't made drastic changes like last year.

                Bad news is you can't turn the boots feature off.

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                • aloncho11
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3708

                  #98
                  Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                  ^But the boot feature has been there for some years now, and it's not a significant boost either, but rather very much like what other sport titles do.

                  NBA 2K is great example of this, where shoes give you specific attribute boosts of +2,+3,+5. PES is no different.
                  Last edited by aloncho11; 09-13-2012, 10:47 AM.
                  Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #99
                    Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by aloncho11
                    ^But the boot feature has been there for some years now, and it's not a significant boost either, but rather very much like what other sport titles do.

                    NBA 2K is great example of this, where shoes give you specific attribute boosts of +2,+3,+5. PES is no different.
                    In 2K I believe it was only for MyPlayer mode. But even if you can use it in association mode, the AI didn't change them whenever they chose nor did it get the added bonuses the shoes provided in MyPlayer mode. This is how it was in BAP mode last year for PES. I don't remember if the boots had any effect in ML last year.

                    The other problem is that where last year they were locked in for the AI, now they're not. The AI could mix and match and put Nike shoes on Messi and so forth. Brand mixing isn't a big deal but what is that a team can buy all these points and make an Andy Carroll be something he isn't and will never be like a speed demon for example.

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                    • aloncho11
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 3708

                      #100
                      Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                      I understand, but isn't that part of ML (Association) mode? For the A.I. to make players develop differently? I agree that this must be done in a realistic way, like not turning a powerful striker into a speedy winger, but as long as it's done in a realistic way it shouldn't be a problem.


                      I remember in PES 2012 you could develop players in certain areas and affect different sets of stats, so it could be similar with the added ease to get the points. There has been no detailed explanation on how will the feature work, hasn't it?
                      Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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                      • Altimus
                        Chelsea, Assemble!
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 27283

                        #101
                        Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by aloncho11
                        I understand, but isn't that part of ML (Association) mode? For the A.I. to make players develop differently? I agree that this must be done in a realistic way, like not turning a powerful striker into a speedy winger, but as long as it's done in a realistic way it shouldn't be a problem.


                        I remember in PES 2012 you could develop players in certain areas and affect different sets of stats, so it could be similar with the added ease to get the points. There has been no detailed explanation on how will the feature work, hasn't it?
                        Unfortunately not. I don't want to say I dislike the feature it's just really questionable to me. I wish they provided an option to play as before with it off though.

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                        • juice2142
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 127

                          #102
                          Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                          I am going to do a test tonight on this game. Can someone tell me which team in this demo plays the slowest, ball possession type of a game? I want to determine if there really is that much of a difference between PES AI opponents compared to FIFA AI. I've noticed the increased mid-field game in PES, but i want evidence of a ball possesion, slow build up team.

                          Thanks!

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                          • ezio
                            MVP
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2853

                            #103
                            Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by juice2142
                            I am going to do a test tonight on this game. Can someone tell me which team in this demo plays the slowest, ball possession type of a game? I want to determine if there really is that much of a difference between PES AI opponents compared to FIFA AI. I've noticed the increased mid-field game in PES, but i want evidence of a ball possesion, slow build up team.

                            Thanks!
                            If you are playing demo 2 I would say try Barcelona although I am not sure how they have the tactics set up or maybe Juve.

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                            • Altimus
                              Chelsea, Assemble!
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 27283

                              #104
                              Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Only Juve are the same from both demos so that's your only choice.

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                              • facehead_1
                                Rookie
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 28

                                #105
                                Re: Pro Evolution Soccer 2013 Demo #2 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here

                                I'm a sim gamer. I play madden and nba 2k13, and always FIFA, and that's about it. I decided to give pes a try because I was told gameplay is much better.

                                WOW

                                I felt like I was watching real soccer. I couldn't believe how much better than FIFA 13 it looked in gameplay. Incredible. Hard to get used too, but I might just make the switch. Just two questions

                                1) what are "option" files?

                                2) if I want to start a career type mode with tottenham, can I do that? Will my players look and act like themselves? This I don't really understand, like the licensing stuff.
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