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  • onlybygrace
    MVP
    • Jan 2009
    • 3784

    #1

    The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

    Some of yall may recall that last year I was going to play a Season Mode using the home team of every game of the NHL schedule...over 1200 games. I made it about 145 games in 3-4 weeks before NHL 12 got really old to me.

    So, being that NHL 13 is just so damn addicting (best hockey game I've ever played, easily) I will be attempting the same feat.

    So far, so good. Havin' a lot of fun.

    I will be playing on Superstar difficulty using 9 minute periods. I will play as the home team for every game.

    BUT...

    I will play every Blues game as the Blues...since I won't be able to do this AND play a Blues Be-A-GM.

    So...enjoy. Updates coming soon.

    The coolest thing about doing this last year was that all the league stats where true to life in that no simming occured...was really interesting.

    Updates to come...
  • onlybygrace
    MVP
    • Jan 2009
    • 3784

    #2
    Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

    Opening Night
    October 11th, 2012

    Price Stellar In Opening Night Loss To Sens

    OTW 3
    MON 2

    Shots OTW 41 MON 29
    PP OTW 1-2 MON 1-2

    Spezza 2 Assists
    Andersen 27 saves on 29 shots
    Phillips Goal (1), GWG
    Price 38 saves on 41 shots
    Plekanec Goal (1)
    Sens outshoot Habs 10-2 in OT
    ---------------------------------
    Bruins Rally To Victory Over Flyers

    BOS 4
    PHI 2
    Shots BOS 24 PHI 30
    PP BOS 1-4 PHI 0-1
    Schenn G (1), A
    Seidenberg G (1)
    Thomas 28/30
    Briere/Giroux/Hartnell -3
    ----------------------------------------------
    Flames Burn Nucks In Shootout

    VAN 2
    CGY 3
    Shots VAN 24 CGY 35
    PP VAN 0-1 CGY 1-5

    Luongo 33 saves on 35 shots
    Bouwmeester 2 Assists
    Giordano G (1)
    D Sedin G (1)
    Iginla G (1)
    ------------------------------------------------
    Blues Top Avs

    STL 3
    COL 1
    Shots STL 28 COL 23
    PP STL 0-0 COL 0-0

    Halak 22 saves on 23 shots
    Duchene G (1)
    Sobotka G (1)
    Tarasenko Assist in NHL Debut, playing on 4th line, 12:47 TOI, 2 SOG
    McDonald G (1)
    Perron G (1)
    -------------------------------------

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    • Section_25
      Pro
      • Sep 2009
      • 717

      #3
      Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

      I always start a season with all teams selected but usually a different game is released that draws my attention away from hockey. I started a season with all teams selected this year also, I'm about 60 games in so far.

      Good luck with yours!

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      • ChiTownKid
        MVP
        • Oct 2002
        • 1002

        #4
        Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

        ..... .....
        im on ur pitch tacklin ur d00dz

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        • Roscosuper
          Banned
          • Mar 2008
          • 923

          #5
          Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

          Just curious, why 9 min not 10? And what setting default/normal/hardcore?

          I always turn penalty scaling to 0, so I can up the minutes, and this year on the power plays (when there are some) it's seems both me and the cpu can get more done than in years past. Is this something you might be doing?

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          • 18 eighty 5
            Yellow n Black
            • Sep 2008
            • 926

            #6
            Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

            Sounds like a fun way to go mate. I'll be watching.

            Ps, really like your user name.
            We are the music makers...

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            • onlybygrace
              MVP
              • Jan 2009
              • 3784

              #7
              Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

              October 12th, 2012

              Neal & Co. Torch Isles

              NYI 2 (0-1-0)
              PIT 5 (1-0-0)
              Shots NYI 31 PIT 35
              PP NYI 1/1 PIT 2/4

              Neal 2 Goals (2)
              Fleury 29 saves on 31 shots
              Sutter Goal (1)
              Tavares Goal (1)
              Crosby Assist, 18:40 TOI, 1 SOG
              ------------------------------------------
              Devils Defeat Caps In Shootout
              NJD 2 (1-0-0)
              WSH 1 (0-0-1)
              Shots NJD 31 WSH 27
              PP NJD 0/1 WSH 1/1

              Neuvirth 30 saves on 31 shots
              Brodeur 26 saves on 27 shots
              Knuble Goal (1)
              Henrique Goal (1)
              Ovechkin 21:05 TOI, 4 Shots
              -----------------------------------------
              Wings Own Preds in Central Division Battle

              NSH 1 (0-1-0)
              DET 4 (1-0-0)
              Shots NSH 26 DET 34
              PP NSH 0/2 DET 1/2

              Cleary 2 Goals (2) Assist, 7 Shots
              Howard 25 saves on 26 shots
              Colaiacovo Goal (1)
              Datsyuk, 5 on 3 PPG (1)
              Erat Goal (1)
              -----------------------------------------------
              Sharks Edge Ducks In Battle of California
              SJS 4 (1-0-0)
              ANA 3 (0-1-0)
              Shots SJS 28 ANA 22
              Pavelski 2 Goals (2), GWG with 50 seconds left in regulation
              Couture Goal (1) Assist
              Boyle Goal (1) Assist
              Blake/Koivu 2 Assists
              Selanne Goal (1)
              Sheldon Souray will miss one week with a mild concussion
              ------------------------------------------------
              Kings Raise Banner In Style; Quick Owns Rangers
              NYR 1 (0-1-0)
              LAK 2 (1-0-0)
              Quick 30 saves on 31 shots
              Parse Goal (1)
              M Richards Goal (1)
              B Richards Goal (1)
              Austin Williams Day-to-day with head injury
              -------------------------------------------------
              Hurricanes Edge Jets In Shootout
              CAR 2 (1-0-0)
              WIN 1 (0-0-1)
              Shots CAR 34 WIN 16
              PP CAR 0/1 WIN 0/1

              Pavelec 33 saves on 34 shots
              Skinner Goal (1), ties game with 6:34 remaining in regulation
              Little Goal (1) just 25 seconds into 1st period
              Anthony Stewart and Evander Kane will each miss one week with minor injuries
              -----------------------------------------------
              Pens Start 2012 On A Roll
              PIT 6 (2-0-0)
              BUF 2 (0-1-0)
              Shots PIT 47 BUF 22
              PP PIT 0/1 BUF 0/0

              Kunitz Goal (1) Assist
              Dupuis Goal (1) Assist
              Neal Goal (3) Assist
              Sutter Goal (2)
              Gerbe Goal (1)
              Webber Goal (1)

              Will be outta town for 8 days, so no updates for a while...gonna miss the hell outta NHL 13.

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              • onlybygrace
                MVP
                • Jan 2009
                • 3784

                #8
                Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                Okay, so I did a little experiment on my sample of games played here, since I'm sitting in a hotel without NHL 13...

                I believe the sweetspot for hockey gaming is having very comparable shooting percentages for both the CPU and the user...it lends itself to a more honest gaming experience for me.

                So after totaling up all the shots and goals for the CPU and myself here are the results...

                Human Stats/CPU Stats
                25 Goals 25
                278 Shots 309
                9.0% Shooting Percentage 8.1%
                .919 Save Percentage .911
                The above numbers are based on the whole of the sample, however over the last three games I had made a change where I raised my CPU shot power to 4 instead of 3, setting it equal with the human shot power of 4...

                and here are the results. You'll notice I've been outshot embarrassing and blown out once as a result.
                With New Settings
                Human Stats/CPU Stats
                6 Goals 11
                60 Shots 109
                10.0% Shooting Percentage 10.1%
                .899 Save Percentage .900
                So, even though the sample is low...the shooting percentages are very comparable...almost the same. That said, the shooting percentages are literally a smidge on the side side.

                So...I'll leave the sliders right where they are and see how it pans out over another 15 games or so.

                Thanks for indulging.


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                • onlybygrace
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3784

                  #9
                  Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                  Damn, I got the the library and forgot my notebook!!! Rolling with this still and having a BLAST!!!

                  I adjusted the behaviour of every line in the league so each team plays very uniquely. Oh, and I'm on superstar and can honestly say there is no comeback code going on in Season Mode...when a team (either I or the CPU) gets up by two in the third, usually thats the end of the story...unfortunately I lose a lot--but fairly.

                  Love this game, man. Truly amazing.

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                  • onlybygrace
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 3784

                    #10
                    Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                    October 13th Cont'

                    Habs Defeat Leafs In OT
                    MON 4 (1-0-1)
                    TOR 3 (0-0-1)
                    Shots MON 24 TOR 24
                    PP MON 0/1 TOR 0/2
                    Bourque 2 Goals (2)
                    Lupol Goal (1) Assist
                    Cole 2 Assists
                    Kessel Goal (1)
                    Subban GWG (1) in OT
                    -----------------------------------------
                    Sens Trounce Caps
                    WSH 1 (0-1-1)
                    OTW 4 (2-0-0)
                    Shots WSH 28 OTW 27
                    Anderson 27 saves on 28 shots
                    Michalek Goal (2) Assist
                    Spezza Goal (1)
                    Alfredson/Ribeiro Assist
                    Ward Goal (1)
                    ++Latendresse will miss the next 2-3 weeks with a groin injury
                    ------------------------------------------
                    Bruins Crush Devils
                    BOS 5 (2-0-0)
                    NJD 1 (1-1-0)
                    Shots BOS 25 NJD 33
                    PP BOS 0/1 NJD 0/2
                    Bergeron 2 Goals (2) Assist
                    Thomas 32 saves on 33 shots
                    Paille Goal (1) Assist
                    Henrique Goal (2)
                    -------------------------------------------
                    Flyers Edge Isles
                    PHI 4 (1-1-0)
                    NYI 3 (0-2-0)
                    Shots PHI 40 NYI 26
                    PP PHI 2/3 NYI 0/1
                    Grabner Goal (1) Assist
                    Simmonds SHG (1)
                    Kubina 2 Assists
                    Schenn Goal (2)
                    Hartnell Goal (1)
                    --------------------------------------------
                    Lightning Take Battle Of Sunshine State
                    TBL 3 (1-0-0)
                    FLA 2 (0-1-0)
                    Shots TBL 31 FLA 20
                    PP TBL 0/0 FLA 1/4
                    Malone 2 Goals (2)
                    St. Louis 2 Assists
                    Stamkos Assist
                    Crombeen Goal (1)
                    Bergenheim/Campbell Goal (1)
                    ----------------------------------------------
                    Blues Lose To Preds In Central Div. Battle
                    STL 1 (1-1-0)
                    NSH 3 (1-1-0)
                    Shots STL 26 NSH 29
                    PP STL 0/0 NSH 1/1
                    Bourque 2 Goals (2)
                    Rinne 25 saves on 26 shots
                    Kostitsyn Goal (1)
                    Backes Goal (1)
                    Oshie Assist
                    Tarasenko 10:47 TOI, 1 SOG
                    Halak 26 saves on 29 shots
                    -----------------------------------------------------
                    Avs Down Wild In Shootout
                    COL 3 (1-1-0)
                    MIN 2 (0-0-1)
                    SHOTS COL 34 MIN 43
                    PP COL 2/3 MIN 0/0
                    Varlamov 41 saves on 43 shots
                    Backstrom 32 saves on 34 shots
                    Christensen Goal (1)
                    Parise Goal (1)
                    Landesky Goal (1)
                    Oreilly Goal (1)
                    ++Setoguchi will miss 4 weeks with a groin injury
                    --------------------------------------------------
                    Hawks Sneak Pass BJ's In Goaltenders Dual
                    CLB 0 (0-1-0)
                    CHI 1 (1-0-0)
                    Shots CLB 22 CHI 24
                    PP CLB 0/1 CHI 0/1
                    Crawford 22 saves, Shutout
                    Hossa GWG (1) with 2:59 remaining in regulation
                    Mason 23 saves on 24 shots
                    ---------------------------------------------------
                    Coyotes Prevail Over Stars
                    DAL 2 (0-1-0)
                    PHO 4 (1-0-0)
                    Shots DAL 43 PHO 30
                    PP DAL 0/1 PHO 0/3
                    Smith 41 saves on 43 shots
                    Doan Goal
                    Boedker Goal
                    Sullivan Goal
                    Gordon Goal
                    Benn Goal
                    --------------------------------------------
                    October 14th

                    Ducks Destroy Undisciplined Stars
                    DAL 3 (0-2-0)
                    ANA 6 (1-1-0)
                    Shots DAL 21 ANA 47
                    PP DAL 0/0 ANA 2/6
                    Perry 2 Goals (2) Assist
                    Getzlaf Goal (1) 2 Assists
                    Ryan 2 Assists
                    Koivu Goal (1) Assist
                    Morrow Goal (1) Assist
                    -----------------------------------------------------
                    October 15th

                    Ovechkin Tallies Trick In Victory Over Florida
                    FLA 0 (0-2-0)
                    WSH 5 (1-1-1)
                    Ovechkin 3 Goals (3), 6 SOG, scored Hat Trick goal on breakaway with 5.7 seconds remaining in regulation
                    Hendricks 2 Goals (2)
                    Neuvirth Shutout 31 Saves
                    Backstrom/Beagle 2 Assists
                    -------------------------------------------------------
                    Kings Stay Hot, Defeat Flames
                    LAK 5 (2-0-0)
                    CAL 3 (1-1-0)
                    Shots LAK 23 CAL 30
                    PP LAK 0/0 CAL 0/0
                    Kopitar 2 Goals (2)
                    Tanguay Goal (1) Assist
                    Quick 27 saves on 30 shots
                    --------------------------------------------------------
                    Canes Down Winless Vancouver
                    CAR 4 (2-0-0)
                    VAN 2 (0-2-1)
                    Shots CAR 27 VAN 37
                    PP CAR 0/2 VAN 1/2
                    Ward 35 saves on 37 shots
                    Brent 2 Goals (2)
                    E. Staal 2 Goals (2)
                    Tlusty 2 Assists
                    Luongo pulled after 17:42, 9 saves on 12 shots
                    Schneider 42:16, 14 saves on 15 shots
                    ---------------------------------------------------
                    Sharks Down Rags In Shootout
                    NYR 2 (0-1-1)
                    SJS 3 (2-0-0)
                    Shots NYR 28 SJS 44
                    PP NYR 1/3 SJS 0/4
                    Lundqvist 42 saves on 44 shots
                    Havlat Goal (1) on Penalty Shot
                    Niemi 26 saves on 28 shots
                    Nash Goal (1)
                    M Staal will miss a week with wrist injury
                    --------------------------------------------------
                    October 16th

                    Sabres Defeat Detroit
                    DET 2 (1-1-0)
                    BUF 3 (1-1-0)
                    Shots DET 24 BUF 28
                    PP DET 2/4 BUF 2/5
                    Stafford Goal (1) Assist
                    Hodgson Goal (1)
                    Sekera 2 Assists
                    Cleary Goal (3)
                    Colaiacovo 2 Assists
                    -------------------------------------------
                    Sens Stay Unbeaten, Defeat Pens 3-2 in SO
                    OTW 3 (3-0-0)
                    PIT 2 (2-0-1)
                    Shots OTW 23 PIT 32
                    PP OTW 1/1 PIT 1/2
                    Anderson 30 saves on 32 shots'
                    Niskanen Goal (1)
                    Crosby Goal (1)
                    ++Letang to miss next 4 weeks with shoulder injury
                    -------------------------------------------
                    Price & Co. Shutout Boston
                    BOS 0 (2-1-0)
                    MON 2 (2-0-1)
                    Shots BOS 23 MON 35
                    PP BOS 0/1 MON 1/4
                    Price 23 saves, Shutout
                    Thomas 33 saves on 35 shots
                    Plekanec Goal (2)
                    Armstrong Goal (1)
                    Subban/Gionta/Eller Assists
                    Malkin/Neal/Turris Assists
                    Vokoun 21 saves on 23 shots

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                    • NateAndStuff
                      Rookie
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 57

                      #11
                      Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                      This is pretty impressive but there's no way I could handle it. Kudos to you though.

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                      • jonapaloma
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 405

                        #12
                        Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                        What settings and sliders do you use?

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                        • ThatOneBender
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 10

                          #13
                          Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                          Im a huge fan of what your doing here... Decided to start my own and will make a thread about it once i can :/ good way to get my douse of hockey during the lockout.

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                          • RLaguna
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 161

                            #14
                            Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                            Originally posted by onlybygrace
                            Some of yall may recall that last year I was going to play a Season Mode using the home team of every game of the NHL schedule...over 1200 games. I made it about 145 games in 3-4 weeks before NHL 12 got really old to me.

                            So, being that NHL 13 is just so damn addicting (best hockey game I've ever played, easily) I will be attempting the same feat.

                            So far, so good. Havin' a lot of fun.

                            I will be playing on Superstar difficulty using 9 minute periods. I will play as the home team for every game.

                            BUT...

                            I will play every Blues game as the Blues...since I won't be able to do this AND play a Blues Be-A-GM.

                            So...enjoy. Updates coming soon.

                            The coolest thing about doing this last year was that all the league stats where true to life in that no simming occured...was really interesting.

                            Updates to come...

                            Just out of curiousity, since I too am an owner of NHL 12 (and all previous NHL games too) what is it about NHL 13, that ISNT getting old after many games? I also felt that every game in NHL 12 (and the older ones too) was starting to simply feel like carbon copies of each other

                            How does NHL 13 keep each game from feeling the same? What is it that makes u say its truly amazing?

                            In addition, I love your idea of actually playing out each game. Is it possible to take owner ship of every team the way you do and play a FRANCHISE MODE (not just a single season) I would love the ability to PLAY out ALL games (or even sim some of them) AND continue with this for more than 1 single season.

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                            • onlybygrace
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3784

                              #15
                              Re: The Great Undertaking II (A true bypass of NHL 13's sim engine)

                              Originally posted by NateAndStuff
                              This is pretty impressive but there's no way I could handle it. Kudos to you though.
                              Yeah...I hear ya...I just love variety and this meets the need.

                              Originally posted by jonapaloma
                              What settings and sliders do you use?
                              I use my own sliders. I won't be releasing any NHL 13 sliders like I usually do because I dont have the net so I can't DL the new tuners. So I play with the game as is out of the box.

                              Originally posted by ThatOneBender
                              Im a huge fan of what your doing here... Decided to start my own and will make a thread about it once i can :/ good way to get my douse of hockey during the lockout.
                              Cool...glad you like it.

                              Originally posted by RLaguna
                              Just out of curiousity, since I too am an owner of NHL 12 (and all previous NHL games too) what is it about NHL 13, that ISNT getting old after many games? I also felt that every game in NHL 12 (and the older ones too) was starting to simply feel like carbon copies of each other

                              How does NHL 13 keep each game from feeling the same? What is it that makes u say its truly amazing?

                              In addition, I love your idea of actually playing out each game. Is it possible to take owner ship of every team the way you do and play a FRANCHISE MODE (not just a single season) I would love the ability to PLAY out ALL games (or even sim some of them) AND continue with this for more than 1 single season.
                              Yeah...well, what makes NHL 13 so great??? If I had to choose just a couple of key things, the skating engine is the first enhancement. There are just so many possibilities that occur spontaneously that keep me suprised. Look at my box scores, sometimes I win big...then I lose big...and then there are several close games. I can never really predict whats going to happen and the results I'm getting verify that.

                              The presentation of the game is much more interesting (despite the same commentary)...the replays are well done and it helps that I have custom soundtracks to keep each venue feeling like someplace unique.

                              As far as being able to control all teams, that cannot be done in Be-A-GM, only in Season Mode...which is, of course, just one season in duration. But I'm playing over 1200 games...so I don't need more than one.

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