NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

howard went down to 95 when looking at the new screens, and bosh 82 apparently? hibbert is 79 aswell? thats just what was posted by OS

The screen shots are from much earlier, as Barnes is still a Laker in them. These three ratings were just revealed today from 2K's twitter account, so they are more up to date.

[ojandpizza]

I really like Hibbert, but I think him being an 86 or whatever it was is flat out crazy lol

[b0z1c]

no way Howard is a 96

[Jrocc23]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Bosh's low rating the past couple of years all makes sense now. The whole world (including 2k devs) saw this garbage, and his credibility hasn't been the same since..



I mean, there's flopping, and then there's acting like you've just been shot in the face with a Desert Eagle. Come on man.

Pathetic. Lost all my respect for Bosh.

[Streaky McFloorburn]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

I just have to weigh in on the lil PG discussion in this thread.

If you are debating the best all-around player that is listed as a PG, it's a fair question worthy of discussion - CP3, Rose, D-Will, Westbrook, Rondo, Nash all excel in certain areas and deserve consideration.

But if you're trying to debate who the best actual PG is?

CP3 is the only player on the above list who has lead the league in assists and AST/TO ratio, even in different seasons. (Try not to let it bother you non-Raptors followers that Jose Calderon is the only other PG who has even come close to doing this) If you don't understand how impressive that is, try to imagine a volume shooter like Kobe leading the league in FG%.

CP3 is the only player on the above list to lead the league in win shares (in 07-08, when he was the MVP by a huge margin but the media voted Kobe his lifetime achievement award). He has been the top PG in win shares every year since then except 09-10 when he was injured for half the season, and 2nd only to Lebron among all players last season. He is unquestionably the most valuable PG in the league to whatever team he is on.

Obviously I can't use stats to address the ballhandling thing, but while he is not the best "ankle breaker", his ball control is second to none. Watch his ability to handle the rock in traffic and keep it "on a string". If there is any player that will give you a sense that they are connected to the ball at all times, it's Chris Paul.

He steps up in nearly every 4th quarter, is a master of "shot clock cheese", consistently shoots better than all of the top PGs except Nash, and is as tough/scrappy as any player in the league. If you had any two of those guys on the same team, he's the last one you'd slide to the SG position (IMO because of Nash's shooting, D-Will's size, Westbrook and Rose's athleticism, and Rondo's defensive length).

Plain and simple, he puts more on the table and takes less off of it than any player not named LeBron James.

[titans321]

Re: NBA 2K13 ratings: D. Howard – 96, C. Bosh - 83, R. Hibbert - 86

Wait, so Hibbert is an 86, but Marc Gasol is an 83? Wow. What the hell were the roster makers smoking.

[ojandpizza]

I just have to weigh in on the lil PG discussion in this thread.

If you are debating the best all-around player that is listed as a PG, it's a fair question worthy of discussion - CP3, Rose, D-Will, Westbrook, Rondo, Nash all excel in certain areas and deserve consideration.

But if you're trying to debate who the best actual PG is?

CP3 is the only player on the above list who has lead the league in assists and AST/TO ratio, even in different seasons. (Try not to let it bother you non-Raptors followers that Jose Calderon is the only other PG who has even come close to doing this) If you don't understand how impressive that is, try to imagine a volume shooter like Kobe leading the league in FG%.

CP3 is the only player on the above list to lead the league in win shares (in 07-08, when he was the MVP by a huge margin but the media voted Kobe his lifetime achievement award). He has been the top PG in win shares every year since then except 09-10 when he was injured for half the season, and 2nd only to Lebron among all players last season. He is unquestionably the most valuable PG in the league to whatever team he is on.

Obviously I can't use stats to address the ballhandling thing, but while he is not the best "ankle breaker", his ball control is second to none. Watch his ability to handle the rock in traffic and keep it "on a string". If there is any player that will give you a sense that they are connected to the ball at all times, it's Chris Paul.

He steps up in nearly every 4th quarter, is a master of "shot clock cheese", consistently shoots better than all of the top PGs except Nash, and is as tough/scrappy as any player in the league. If you had any two of those guys on the same team, he's the last one you'd slide to the SG position (IMO because of Nash's shooting, D-Will's size, Westbrook and Rose's athleticism, and Rondo's defensive length).

Plain and simple, he puts more on the table and takes less off of it than any player not named LeBron James.

I agree with you everywhere except for the margin of how much better you say he is.. When he is playing at his 100% self level (not this past year with NJ) I think Deron Williams is just about as good as CP3 is.. If not its a close second..

After those two I think it's a big drop off, Rondo just because he is so terrible offensively for a PG and Rose and Westbrook because simply being athletic doesn't cut it...

I also agree with you that people don't realize how great of a ball handler CP3 is.. It's not all about the highlight ankle breaking cross overs, it's about controlling the ball, being able to take it to whenever you want on the court and not turning it over.. CP3 and Rondo are the best in the league at that.. Maybe Nash as well.

I like how your argument separates all around players from actual point guards, if we were going by actually playing the PG position, a true PG, I would have CP3, Rondo, D Will, Nash, and Tony Parker all ahead of Rose... However as an all around player Rose is ahead of most of them...

I think that just shows how much more valuable a guy like CP3 is than Rose.. Not only is he up there as one of the best in the all around player stand point but he's also one of the best as a pure PG.. That's the total package

[DeemDaDream]

I think Roy hibbert should be in the mid to high seventies. He isnt a dominant rebounder and he is immobile. He can post up, shoot the mid range, and block shots. But his skills hardly warrant anything over a 77 or 78.

[buickbeast]

Howard a 96 and coming off a major back injury? If this is the case, then 2K needs to make a crybaby sig skill specially for him then. Too bad you can't punch your opponents like in the game "Arch Rivals" lol

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Howard a 96 and coming off a major back injury? If this is the case, then 2K needs to make a crybaby sig skill specially for him then. Too bad you can't punch your opponents like in the game "Arch Rivals" lol

Do you know how minor the surgery was?
Do you know he is almost 100%?
Dwight said that his Dr told him that this will make more stronger.
Sorry if your organization doesn't know how to treat a superstar.

[stillfeelme]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

The overall numbers are just a tier system equation used by the insider to evaluate talent for association or popular opinion. They change by position. I think they make little exceptions to their equation to get the overall value of who they want to be rated higher or lower. I do think some of the individual ratings are not equal across the board.

PG's: Passing is weighed heavily has to be. Rondo offense only is 85 despite being a poor to average shooter for his position. He doesn't even finish that well in the paint. FT shooting below 60% for a PG. Chris Paul who is much better shooter across the board and equal level passer is a 93 for his offense. To me this means shooting doesn't play that big a role in offensive rating.

I think Howard is rated so high based off whatever new rating system 2K is using this year. There seem to be a few people that are getting higher ratings this year. I think the only one that dropped was Kobe.

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Do you know how minor the surgery was?
Do you know he is almost 100%?
Dwight said that his Dr told him that this will make more stronger.
Sorry if your organization doesn't know how to treat a superstar.

What??

It's a back injury, which is never minor. Plus, even though it happened months ago, Howard won't be 100% by the start of the season. Thirdly, are we to believe that his back injury and subsequent surgery made him so strong as to up his overall rating by 2 full points even though his numbers will go down from playing with 3 other stars???

Seems like a bit of a double-standard compared to other players, ie Bosh, just because Howard is such a high-profile celebrity and is playing for the Lakers now.

[99centChickenSammich]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

If there is any player that will give you a sense that they are connected to the ball at all times, it's Chris Paul.

He steps up in nearly every 4th quarter, is a master of "shot clock cheese", consistently shoots better than all of the top PGs except Nash, and is as tough/scrappy as any player in the league.

I can't argue with anything you mentioned except the "tough" part. If we're talking about playing through injury, then CP3 is among the toughest. And he's definitely scrappy.

But don't forget, he's a huge flopper (like the rest of the Clippers/most of the league), and he likes to get "tough" and in guys' faces, but only when he conveniently has other players and refs around to immediately break things up.

And although i think Rondo is still the best pure point in the league, CP3 is by far the most efficient, and is at the top of the list of (all) players that instantly make their team better.

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

What??

It's a back injury, which is never minor. Plus, even though it happened months ago, Howard won't be 100% by the start of the season. Thirdly, are we to believe that his back injury and subsequent surgery made him so strong as to up his overall rating by 2 full points even though his numbers will go down from playing with 3 other stars???

Seems like a bit of a double-standard compared to other players, ie Bosh, just because Howard is such a high-profile celebrity and is playing for the Lakers now.

So Bosh is now like Howard rofl.
It's been over 6 months. Yes this was a minor surgery nothing major. You do know that he is going to start when the season begins? Lakers medical staff already said so. If he was so hurt he obviously wouldn't be working out with the Lakers staff & his personal trainer. Don't know how his numbers will drop when he was getting about 14FGA PG which is what Bynum was getting when he was with the Lakers last season. If anything his PPG will rise now that he as a PF who can compliment him & the best Pick & Roll PG in the league.

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

So Bosh is now like Howard rofl.
It's been over 6 months. Yes this was a minor surgery nothing major. You do know that he is going to start when the season begins? Lakers medical staff already said so. If he was so hurt he obviously wouldn't be working out with the Lakers staff & his personal trainer. Don't know how his numbers will drop when he was getting about 14FGA PG which is what Bynum was getting when he was with the Lakers last season. If anything his PPG will rise now that he as a PF who can compliment him & the best Pick & Roll PG in the league.

No, Bosh is not like Howard- as a player. But, Bosh wins a title as an important team player and his rating stays the same (underrated at 83). Orlando struggles, Howard gets injured and now joins a team with 3 players demanding touches, and his rating jumps 2 points. That doesn't add up.