NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

No, Bosh is not like Howard- as a player. But, Bosh wins a title as an important team player and his rating stays the same (underrated at 83). Orlando struggles, Howard gets injured and now joins a team with 3 players demanding touches, and his rating jumps 2 points. That doesn't add up.

At least Howard can take his own team to the Playoffs unlike Bosh when he was with the Raptors only made the playoffs twice in a 7 year span. Sorry, but if you don't see how much of an impact Dwight can make on Offense & Defense then IDK what to tell you.

[KDurant35]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

You are probably the worst poster in this whole thread. I am still waiting on the facts that back up that Rose is a better defensive player than CP3. Would you rather me just ether you with the info instead? You choose.

Please point to me where I said Rose is a better defensive player than CP3. And by quoting that specific post are you agreeing that CP3 has better handles than Rose? ..and I'm the one being accused of being the worst poster.

[OTCU]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

At least Howard can take his own team to the Playoffs unlike Bosh when he was with the Raptors only made the playoffs twice in a 7 year span. Sorry, but if you don't see how much of an impact Dwight can make on Offense & Defense then IDK what to tell you.

Do you realize that Bosh had no help around him in Toronto? The talent around Dwight is FAR greater than that around bosh. You have already shown me you know nothing about basketball by your previous posts. The fact you have to bring up his time in Toronto to debate the fact he has more championships than your boyfriend shows you are not as smart as you think you are

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

At least Howard can take his own team to the Playoffs unlike Bosh when he was with the Raptors only made the playoffs twice in a 7 year span. Sorry, but if you don't see how much of an impact Dwight can make on Offense & Defense then IDK what to tell you.

I'm sorry that you can't understand that I am not comparing the two as players. Obviously, Howard is a tier 1 superstar and Bosh is tier 2.

I am comparing their situations as they pertain to their ratings this year. Howard, somehow, has seen an increase when he hasn't earned one. If anything, with all the factors coming into this season (injury, Orlando's down year, having less of a focus offensively with his new team, etc), he should have gone down a point from last year, not up 2 points.

Bosh, on the other hand, remains underrated even though he still has the same skills that allowed him to put up big numbers in Toronto. He has been penalized for sacrificing his individual stats for a title run.

Similar situations, but one goes up and one goes down.

It seems their overall ratings should be more in this range... Howard, 92-94, Bosh, 84-87.

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Do you realize that Bosh had no help around him in Toronto? The talent around Dwight is FAR greater than that around bosh. You have already shown me you know nothing about basketball by your previous posts. The fact you have to bring up his time in Toronto to debate the fact he has more championships than your boyfriend shows you are not as smart as you think you are

Lmao what talent did Dwight have. Dwight is such a great talent that I have Quotes from KG & Tim Duncan saying it him self.
Tim Duncan
"[Howard] is so developed... He has so much promise and I am glad that I will be out of the league when he is peaking."

Kevin Garnett

"[Howard] is a freak of nature, man... I was nowhere near that physically talented. I wasn't that gifted, as far as body and physical presence."

All Bosh has is one championship am sure this season Dwight will have one.

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

I'm sorry that you can't understand that I am not comparing the two as players. Obviously, Howard is a tier 1 superstar and Bosh is tier 2.

I am comparing their situations as they pertain to their ratings this year. Howard, somehow, has seen an increase when he hasn't earned one. If anything, with all the factors coming into this season (injury, Orlando's down year, having less of a focus offensively with his new team, etc), he should have gone down a point from last year, not up 2 points.

Bosh, on the other hand, remains underrated even though he still has the same skills that allowed him to put up big numbers in Toronto. He has been penalized for sacrificing his individual stats for a title run.

Similar situations, but one goes up and one goes down.

It seems their overall ratings should be more in this range... Howard, 92-94, Bosh, 84-87.

But Howard is going to be 100% what's the difference.....he'll probably be even rated higher now after about 20 games into the season now that all this drama is done with & his main focus is going to be basketball especially now that he has 3 hall of fame players playing along side him.

[OTCU]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Lmao what talent did Dwight have. Dwight is such a great talent that I have Quotes from KG & Tim Duncan saying it him self.
Tim Duncan
"[Howard] is so developed... He has so much promise and I am glad that I will be out of the league when he is peaking."

Kevin Garnett

"[Howard] is a freak of nature, man... I was nowhere near that physically talented. I wasn't that gifted, as far as body and physical presence."

All Bosh has is one championship am sure this season Dwight will have one.

Jameer Nelson is a former all-star, hedo turkoglu had his best years in Orlando, rashard Lewis hadn't declined while he was in Orlando. So yeah you just proved to be a casual fan that just watches ESPN. But OK bro.....
And if you think la can beat okc then you're crazy. And don't forget about the spurs

[OTCU]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

But Howard is going to be 100% what's the difference.....he'll probably be even rated higher now after about 20 games into the season now that all this drama is done with & his main focus is going to be basketball especially now that he has 3 hall of fame players playing along side him.

He's going to miss the preseason so why do you keep saying this is a minor injury but you're just being biased because he's your boyfriend

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Jameer Nelson is a former all-star, hedo turkoglu had his best years in Orlando, rashard Lewis hadn't declined while he was in Orlando. So yeah you just proved to be a casual fan that just watches ESPN. But OK bro.....
And if you think la can beat okc then you're crazy. And don't forget about the spurs

Lol what is OKC going to do shoot jumpers all day? Idk if you know, or not but the games were close in the series against OKC. Let me recap for you ok?
First game total blowout not going to lie.
Second game only lost by 2 points.
Fourth game only lost by 3 points.
We had the lead in each of those games in the fourth quarter, but we somehow managed to lose because of not having a smart PG that knows how to manage the offense & get his players the highest % shot, or a Center that can defend the Pick & Roll & maybe give it his all no matter what the situation is.
If we would of won the 2 & 4 game we would of been 3-1 in that series & probably would of won the series.

[OTCU]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Lol what is OKC going to do shoot jumpers all day? Idk if you know, or not but the games were close in the series against OKC. Let me recap for you ok?
First game total blowout not going to lie.
Second game only lost by 2 points.
Fourth game only lost by 3 points.
We had the lead in each of those games in the fourth quarter, but we somehow managed to lose because of not having a smart PG that knows how to manage the offense & get his players the highest % shot, or a Center that can defend the Pick & Roll & maybe give it his all no matter what the situation is.
If we would of won the 2 & 4 game we would of been 3-1 in that series & probably would of won the series.

You still have noone to guard Russ lol or KD so in actuality how'd you guys make yourself a bigger threat to OKC. And regardless the Lakers would get killed by Miami or Philly.

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

You still have noone to guard Russ lol or KD so in actuality how'd you guys make yourself a bigger threat to OKC. And regardless the Lakers would get killed by Miami or Philly.

Lmao Miami? Lol & you tell me I have no Bball Knowledge.
If you knew anything Dwight Howard will be in the Paint to stop Russ from driving in we will let him shoot those mid range shots not like he's going to hit each of them.

[OTCU]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Lmao Miami? Lol & you tell me I have no Bball Knowledge.
If you knew anything Dwight Howard will be in the Paint to stop Russ from driving in we will let him shoot those mid range shots not like he's going to hit each of them.

Um yeah the team that demolished the team that demolished the Lakers? I'm done because you are so biased there's no way to debate you

[KDurant35]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

I agree with you everywhere except for the margin of how much better you say he is.. When he is playing at his 100% self level (not this past year with NJ) I think Deron Williams is just about as good as CP3 is.. If not its a close second..

After those two I think it's a big drop off, Rondo just because he is so terrible offensively for a PG and Rose and Westbrook because simply being athletic doesn't cut it...

I also agree with you that people don't realize how great of a ball handler CP3 is.. It's not all about the highlight ankle breaking cross overs, it's about controlling the ball, being able to take it to whenever you want on the court and not turning it over.. CP3 and Rondo are the best in the league at that.. Maybe Nash as well.

I like how your argument separates all around players from actual point guards, if we were going by actually playing the PG position, a true PG, I would have CP3, Rondo, D Will, Nash, and Tony Parker all ahead of Rose... However as an all around player Rose is ahead of most of them...

I think that just shows how much more valuable a guy like CP3 is than Rose.. Not only is he up there as one of the best in the all around player stand point but he's also one of the best as a pure PG.. That's the total package

All your other points I agree with except the last one. In 2012 the Bulls went 18-9 without Rose(.500%), with, they were 32-7(.780%) I this shows Rose's valuability

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Um yeah the team that demolished the team that demolished the Lakers? I'm done because you are so biased there's no way to debate you

We didn't even play them in the playoffs the hell? If your going to go by regular season then you must not know anything because the LA Clippers beat OKC 3-1 in their regular season match ups what does that mean? Nothing They exited out in the second round against the spurs who eventually lost to OKC.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

You still have noone to guard Russ lol or KD so in actuality how'd you guys make yourself a bigger threat to OKC. And regardless the Lakers would get killed by Miami or Philly.