Many More NBA 2K13 Player Ratings Revealed - Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, Heat and More

[Jakeness23]

Bosh was huge in the Boston series. And of course his #s aren't going to be high because he plays with wade and LeBron so that wasn't a good point but if you feel that way then ok

With 3 good players and 2 superstars (3 if Bosh counts) then his numbers SHOULD be high. Especially since he plays with a guy that's as good of a passer as LeBron. But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think he's a great player, but overrated. You think he's a superstar who ranks up there with the best. To each his own.

[MVP9072]

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So pretty much last years ratings for the most part for the Chi Bulls

Well i'll have fun with them either way

[Phreezy P]

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The rebounding ratings are for the entire league. So when you compare him you have to compare to the entire league. So a c+ or whatever his number is good compared to an a+ someone like Kevin Love would get. If you give him too high of a number it probably messes up association. It is the same way for post defense. Almost all the power forwards are given B or better because they are above good Sg's in the post.

Lebron is better than most PF's at rebounding, I think he deserves at least a B.

[Rule of Two]

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Kobe shott 43% from the feild with a whole bunch of injuries. Nba 2k12 is giving us an injury free Kobe.
I'm not saying this cus im a Kobe fan, im saying this cus im a lakersphan.

Dwyane Wade shot nearly 50% during the regular season and 46% during the playoffs on a ****ed knee.

What is your point?

[raul24NDLAL12]

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Dwyane Wade shot nearly 50% during the regular season and 46% during the playoffs on a ****ed knee.

What is your point?

That Kobe Bryant will always be better than Dwyane Wade plain & simple like bread on butter.

[SouthBeach]

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With 3 good players and 2 superstars (3 if Bosh counts) then his numbers SHOULD be high. Especially since he plays with a guy that's as good of a passer as LeBron. But hey, everyone is entitled to their opinion. I think he's a great player, but overrated. You think he's a superstar who ranks up there with the best. To each his own.

Miami's offense doesn't run through just Wade, Bron, and Bosh, though. Also, Bosh is the 3rd option on the Heat. Look at any other team with 3 All Stars and tell me what their 3rd option averages.

When people say "Miami wouldn't have won without Bosh", it's usually in reference to Bosh being injured or something of that sort - not if Bosh hadn't been signed.

Bosh is more consistent than Stat. I'll give Kevin Love the edge over Bosh. But on a team with Wade and Bron, we all saw how Wade had to revert back to 2009 version of himself and LeBron had to put on his Cleveland cape against Indiana and Boston during Bosh's absence.

[ojandpizza]

I'm not going to argue over Amar'e and Bosh simply because I really like both I them, I always have but I will say the guy who is arguing for Amar'e keeps throwing out a lot of crap and is being extremely biased..

First of all you said no way he should average under 8 rebounds per game on a team with no dominant center... Is 7.9 really that far away from 8? lol not to mention the year before he was averaging 8.3 with the Heat pretty sure that's more than 8.. Also if YOU ACTUALLY WATCHED games you could obviously see that his rebound numbers are lower than his past numbers because Miami doesn't play him inside.. He is a 3rd scoring option now with 2 of the top 5 players in the league as the 1st and 2nd option.. He thrives off kick outs and cuts, you obviously aren't going to get tons of rebounds when you're clearing out the lane for LeBron..that's why his offensive rebounds are so low.. Also his defensive and total rebounds are higher than Amar'es...

Also, regardless of who they play with now they both had their chances to be the ONLY BIG MAN on their team when Bosh was in Toronto and Amar'e was in Phoenix and Bosh consistently out rebounded him.. So if you seriously think Amar'e is a better rebounder you better some unseen amazing break through evidence to prove so..

Offensively neither of them are that great off the block, Bosh has a better midrange game, and Amar'e is better at catching and putting the ball of the floor to attack the rim. I'd say they pretty much cancel each other out there.. Also neither of them are great defensively, neither of them ever have been..Again I give them a cancel there

As far as who I would take, probably Bosh. That's just considering Amar'es injury record and the fact that Bosh can expand his offensive game a little more than Amar'e... Also Bosh is a better passer which is huge in my book.. And Amar'e thrived early in his career due to pure athleticism, I'm not sure how many more years he has that in him with all the injuries..

Again I really like both guys, I think they're both slightly underrated. I think Bosh does deserve a slightly higher overall due to him being a better shooter and slightly better rebounder.. Both those areas always seem to have a huge impact on bigmen's overall ratings... But please all of you STOP with the Bosh and Amar'e playoff numbers they were both injured and obviously weren't playing anywhere near 100%..

Also- to the guy arguing for Amar'e you lost all credibility when you said Amar'e had Raymond Felton playing like an all star, please! SMH lol

[Jakeness23]

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I'm not going to argue over Amar'e and Bosh simply because I really like both I them, I always have but I will say the guy who is arguing for Amar'e keeps throwing out a lot of crap and is being extremely biased..

First of all you said no way he should average under 8 rebounds per game on a team with no dominant center... Is 7.9 really that far away from 8? lol not to mention the year before he was averaging 8.3 with the Heat pretty sure that's more than 8.. Also if YOU ACTUALLY WATCHED games you could obviously see that his rebound numbers are lower than his past numbers because Miami doesn't play him inside.. He is a 3rd scoring option now with 2 of the top 5 players in the league as the 1st and 2nd option.. He thrives off kick outs and cuts, you obviously aren't going to get tons of rebounds when you're clearing out the lane for LeBron..that's why his offensive rebounds are so low.. Also his defensive and total rebounds are higher than Amar'es...

Also, regardless of who they play with now they both had their chances to be the ONLY BIG MAN on their team when Bosh was in Toronto and Amar'e was in Phoenix and Bosh consistently out rebounded him.. So if you seriously think Amar'e is a better rebounder you better some unseen amazing break through evidence to prove so..

Offensively neither of them are that great off the block, Bosh has a better midrange game, and Amar'e is better at catching and putting the ball of the floor to attack the rim. I'd say they pretty much cancel each other out there.. Also neither of them are great defensively, neither of them ever have been..Again I give them a cancel there

As far as who I would take, probably Bosh. That's just considering Amar'es injury record and the fact that Bosh can expand his offensive game a little more than Amar'e... Also Bosh is a better passer which is huge in my book.. And Amar'e thrived early in his career due to pure athleticism, I'm not sure how many more years he has that in him with all the injuries..

Again I really like both guys, I think they're both slightly underrated. I think Bosh does deserve a slightly higher overall due to him being a better shooter and slightly better rebounder.. Both those areas always seem to have a huge impact on bigmen's overall ratings... But please all of you STOP with the Bosh and Amar'e playoff numbers they were both injured and obviously weren't playing anywhere near 100%..

Also- to the guy arguing for Amar'e you lost all credibility when you said Amar'e had Raymond Felton playing like an all star, please! SMH lol

I don't remember saying Amar'e had Felton playing like an All-Star, but if you go back and watch that season before the Melo trade, Felton WAS having the best year of his career. Maybe Bosh is the better rebounder, I didn't really take the time to go research the stats, I was just guestimating on most of that.
To me it all comes down to defense, and Amare is the superior defender IMO.

[Jakeness23]

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Miami's offense doesn't run through just Wade, Bron, and Bosh, though. Also, Bosh is the 3rd option on the Heat. Look at any other team with 3 All Stars and tell me what their 3rd option averages.

You're saying that the Heat went and signed 3 All-Stars and they don't run the offense through them? I'm pretty sure I saw the ball in one of those three guys' hands EVERY time down court. LeBron is essentially the point guard because everything goes through him.
And maybe Bosh doesn't get as many offensive boards because he has to clear the lane for LeBron, but he COULD get more defensive boards, I mean LeBron's rebounding numbers went up, why couldn't Bosh rebound as effectively as he did in Toronto?

Here's a 3rd option All-Star who had amazing stats:

Andrew Bynum (former 3rd option of the LA Lakers)

18.7 PPG
11.8 RPG (almost 12 rebounds with another 7 footer beside of him)
2.0 BPG


And I don't know who was considered the 3rd option for the Lakers back when they had Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Baylor, but I'm fairly certain they all had above average stats as well...


So it IS possible to have great averages even as a 3rd option.

[ojandpizza]

You're saying that the Heat went and signed 3 All-Stars and they don't run the offense through them? I'm pretty sure I saw the ball in one of those three guys' hands EVERY time down court. LeBron is essentially the point guard because everything goes through him.
And maybe Bosh doesn't get as many offensive boards because he has to clear the lane for LeBron, but he COULD get more defensive boards, I mean LeBron's rebounding numbers went up, why couldn't Bosh rebound as effectively as he did in Toronto?

Here's a 3rd option All-Star who had amazing stats:

Andrew Bynum (former 3rd option of the LA Lakers)

18.7 PPG
11.8 RPG (almost 12 rebounds with another 7 footer beside of him)
2.0 BPG


And I don't know who was considered the 3rd option for the Lakers back when they had Jerry West, Wilt Chamberlain, and Elgin Baylor, but I'm fairly certain they all had above average stats as well...


So it IS possible to have great averages even as a 3rd option.

Bosh does have good defensive rebound numbers, he doesn't even average 2 offensive rebounds per game, pretty much all of his rebounds are defensive and his defensive rebounds are higher than Amar'e.. Actually they're pretty much identical to Tyson Chandlers defensive rebound numbers..

[DBMcGee3]

Nate Robinson is the same rating as Jason Terry and OJ Mayo? If that were really the case my Bulls would be lovin it!

[Vni]

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Feels like Robinson is 12 points higher than he should be.

[ronyell]

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knowing in advance that we will be severely overhauling these ratings anyways & with higher profile players to debate... my highest level of disgust comes from Toney Dougkas being rated a 72... smh... must have him listed at SG again.

they need to revamp what attributes are weighted the most in regard to OVR if they are going to continue to have rotations determined by OVR

[ronyell]

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Bosh does have good defensive rebound numbers, he doesn't even average 2 offensive rebounds per game, pretty much all of his rebounds are defensive and his defensive rebounds are higher than Amar'e.. Actually they're pretty much identical to Tyson Chandlers defensive rebound numbers..

must keep in mind that in real life as well as the sim/stat engine in 2k... stats depend on the level of their teammates. Bosh grabs lots of boards because he & Lebron are the ONLY players on their team that CAN grab boards effectively AND the get enough minutes to do so. Tyson on the other hand has been a focal rebounder no matter what team he has been on. Put Bosh on a team wih let's say Al Jefferson... he wouldn't grab as many rebounds.

ratings have to be tested in the sim engine AS WELL as based off of statistics... example.. ast year we had to lower some players rebounding ratings on the T'Wolves to get K-Love to get the proper RPG because 2k had his teammates rebounding ratings a lil too good for where they actually are & they tok away Love's rebounds... same goes for assists & awareness... they have to be balanced in game.

[KB2009Champ]

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must keep in mind that in real life as well as the sim/stat engine in 2k... stats depend on the level of their teammates. Bosh grabs lots of boards because he & Lebron are the ONLY players on their team that CAN grab boards effectively AND the get enough minutes to do so. Tyson on the other hand has been a focal rebounder no matter what team he has been on. Put Bosh on a team wih let's say Al Jefferson... he wouldn't grab as many rebounds

Which strong rebounders did Chandler play with in Dallas? Dirk? Nope.

Wade is also an exceptional rebounder for a guard. So its not just Lebron and Bosh on the boards for Miami.