NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

[icemanfrost]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Al Jefferson is more polished than Shaq was so that means 0.

On a per 36 min scale (so they are compared evenly)

Hibbert: 15.5ppg, 12.4FG per , .497FG

Howard: 19.4ppg, 12.6FG per, .573 FG

This proves being more "polished" means 0 when Dwight is much more efficient as a scorer and is actually the 2nd most efficient finisher in the pick and roll. If you want to sound the least bit intelligent it would be best to back away from the argument that more polished is anything of substance. Hell Rik Smits was more polished than Shaq. Hibbert is an average offensive player and above average defender and great shot blocker by todays standards.

Polished meaning skilled doesn't necceserily mean stats
Hibbert has a better post up game and jumpshot hence more polished offensively never said more better overall player
Wow people really dont read or I guess the interpetation is wrong

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Another thing I noticed. You said Al Jefferson would be the top big man in the league? Are you aware that he is a year older than Dwight and has been in the league the same amount of time? If he hasnt gotten there yet he will never get there. Al has a nice offensive game and is a good player but his impact is not felt on the court to even be considered elite. Just go to bed man....

[raul24NDLAL12]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Another thing I noticed. You said Al Jefferson would be the top big man in the league? Are you aware that he is a year older than Dwight and has been in the league the same amount of time? If he hasnt gotten there yet he will never get there. Al has a nice offensive game and is a good player but his impact is not felt on the court to even be considered elite. Just go to bed man....

Lol Al Jefferson being the top big man in the league that's why they drafted another center ROLF! not@you but the other person.

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Polished meaning skilled doesn't necceserily mean stats
Hibbert has a better post up game and jumpshot hence more polished offensively never said more better overall player
Wow people really dont read or I guess the interpetation is wrong

Who cares tho. What does it mean it terms of results? You stated that to compare his game to Dwight's in order to point out that he is better offensively. The facts I posted disprove your theory. Him being more "polished" means jack ish if he isnt getting the ball in the hoop more and on less attempts on the same type of shots Dwight is taking.

[icemanfrost]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Have of Howard's game and what really makes him good is his physicality that has nothing to do with polish
You basically took what I said about a few attributes and like a chick went to the extreme with it
Rik Smits did have more skill than Shaq
But the quality of big men are so low I really think Rik Smits if he played today would easily avg. 20 and 10
Dont get me wrong I was the main one speaking that Dwight should be considered for MVP every year but that is what the NBA does it loves to market the small guys over the big guys
Truth be told the lack of quality big men are the reason the NBA quality of play has went down

[icemanfrost]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Why are people taking more polish means better player

[SteboSSK]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

Have of Howard's game and what really makes him good is his physicality that has nothing to do with polish
You basically took what I said about a few attributes and like a chick went to the extreme with it
Rik Smits did have more skill than Shaq
But the quality of big men are so low I really think Rik Smits if he played today would easily avg. 20 and 10
Dont get me wrong I was the main one speaking that Dwight should be considered for MVP every year but that is what the NBA does it loves to market the small guys over the big guys
Truth be told the lack of quality big men are the reason the NBA quality of play has went down

You are more delusional than I thought to think that today Smits would be a 20 10 guy. The man's best rb season was like 7rpg. It has nothing to do with the era. The guys of the 90s and before were better post player and the shot blocking stats had more to do with the way the game was played (lack of zone). Rebounds not so much. Smits would be just as much of a stiff today as he was then. Dwight's physicality is a plus to his game but so is Hibbert's height. You are doing nothing for your argument man. In the end results matter. Dwight is a better offensive player in every sense of the word.

[icemanfrost]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

I just think people sometimes get lost in dunks and highlights
It like when people tell me shaq was a better center than hakeem and I tell them not only is hakeem is a better center but it pains me that nobody ever mentions him in the greatest players ever.

[icemanfrost]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

You are more delusional than I thought to think that today Smits would be a 20 10 guy. The man's best rb season was like 7rpg. It has nothing to do with the era. The guys of the 90s and before were better post player and the shot blocking stats had more to do with the way the game was played (lack of zone). Rebounds not so much. Smits would be just as much of a stiff today as he was then. Dwight's physicality is a plus to his game but so is Hibbert's height. You are doing nothing for your argument man. In the end results matter. Dwight is a better offensive player in every sense of the word.

So you being a laker fan do you think steve nash should be rated higher than tony parker

[ojandpizza]

All your other points I agree with except the last one. In 2012 the Bulls went 18-9 without Rose(.500%), with, they were 32-7(.780%) I this shows Rose's valuability

No I didn't mean Rose wasn't valuable, sorry of it sounded that way.. I was just saying that CP3 is more so.. The Bulls are still a good team without Rose, not title contention good, but last seed playoff good.. While I highly doubt the Clippers without CP3 are a playoff team and I can for damn sure tell you his Hornets team wouldn't be lol

[ojandpizza]

I just think people sometimes get lost in dunks and highlights
It like when people tell me shaq was a better center than hakeem and I tell them not only is hakeem is a better center but it pains me that nobody ever mentions him in the greatest players ever.

It's debatable though.. To someone who values championships Shaq would be the better choice. It's all a matter of opinion..

To me you have - Russell, Kareem, Wilt, Hakeem, Shaq - those 5 in no particular order.. Those are the top 5 to ever play the game as a Center.. Depending how you would order them is personal preference.. After those 5 however it's a huge drop off to the next guy in..

[ojandpizza]

I wouldn't go as far to say Hibbert is a better offensive player than Howard but it really isn't a land slide like the Lakers guy is saying.. First of all, the reason Howard's % is so high is because literally almost every basket he scores is a dunk either from a good pass or an offensive board.. The guy literally has no post game or go to moves.. He often looks like he doesn't even know what to do with the ball when he has it..

Seriously teams don't even have to double him that much, somebody that big and that gifted should demand a constant double team..

I would choose Howard over Hibbert of given the option but trying to make Howard out to be such a great offensive player is a complete joke..

And I don't think Al Jefferson will become the best or even top 3 big men in the league BUT offensively he probably is the best big man in the league.. Laugh all you want but to those who actually watch basketball and know the game outside of highlight reels and "Kobe is the ish, or Griffin is the best PF alive" know what I'm talking about..

[ojandpizza]

- I know I've posted like 4 times in a row now, sorry I'm on here using my phone..

But even with the arguments I said above I still feel that Howard at 96 and Hibbert at an 86 are both overrated..

[DurtySoufReppin]

Re: NBA 2K13 ratings: D. Howard – 96, C. Bosh - 83, R. Hibbert - 86

Marc Gasol is better than Roy Hibbert

[barimanlhs]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Dwight Howard – 96, Chris Bosh - 83, Roy Hibbert - 86

- I know I've posted like 4 times in a row now, sorry I'm on here using my phone..

But even with the arguments I said above I still feel that Howard at 96 and Hibbert at an 86 are both overrated..

I agree, outside of rebounding and blocking shots, Dwight is pretty average lol He has no real post game, cant shoot, and at this point only has the advantage due to his size and lack of talent in the rest of the NBA at the Center position. 92-94 is alright for Dwight since he is the best C in the game

Hibbert can be very good but right now I think the 86 is a bit generous