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  • Clemmie
    Banned
    • Aug 2012
    • 72

    #1

    Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

    I love the game overall in the way it looks and plays. I feel they did a great job with the IE especially in its first year in American football. I feel every year however, eapecially this year, the game is skewed towards the offense. I'd like to see if the tuners actually work, maybe EA can bump up pass coverage both man and zone, and tighten up tackling and pursuit angles.

    In an attemp to stop "nanos", you cannot even manually move a defender where u need him, because once u click off of him he reverts to his old position on the field. They way to stop people from abusing the games blocking AI isnt to further neuter the defense, its to FIX the blocking.

    This is especially annoying since when u come out in a man defense, oftentimes the slot DB's and/or safeties in man line up on the opposite side of the field than the man they are assigned to cover. I dont understand why this is an issue every year. Now its worse this yr because when u do catch it, click on and move that DB over his ASSIGNED offensive player, once u click off he moves back.

    Please give us defensive minded players some hope. Tune the defense.
  • imthedan
    Rookie
    • May 2009
    • 43

    #2
    Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

    Originally posted by Clemmie
    I love the game overall in the way it looks and plays. I feel they did a great job with the IE especially in its first year in American football. I feel every year however, eapecially this year, the game is skewed towards the offense. I'd like to see if the tuners actually work, maybe EA can bump up pass coverage both man and zone, and tighten up tackling and pursuit angles.

    In an attemp to stop "nanos", you cannot even manually move a defender where u need him, because once u click off of him he reverts to his old position on the field. They way to stop people from abusing the games blocking AI isnt to further neuter the defense, its to FIX the blocking.

    This is especially annoying since when u come out in a man defense, oftentimes the slot DB's and/or safeties in man line up on the opposite side of the field than the man they are assigned to cover. I dont understand why this is an issue every year. Now its worse this yr because when u do catch it, click on and move that DB over his ASSIGNED offensive player, once u click off he moves back.

    Please give us defensive minded players some hope. Tune the defense.
    The man thing happens every play when you're playing the Broncos. Peyton will audible out of everything and when he does he sends the receivers to the other side of the field. The safety covering the slot receiver will not move over, so the slot guy has a free run for over 5 yards unless you audible the defense as well. The safety should just follow the slot receiver over.

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    • Tweeg
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1414

      #3
      Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

      I don't think 'they' remember what tuners are supposed to be.
      Prototype Supreme

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      • ggsimmonds
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jan 2009
        • 11235

        #4
        Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

        Originally posted by imthedan
        The man thing happens every play when you're playing the Broncos. Peyton will audible out of everything and when he does he sends the receivers to the other side of the field. The safety covering the slot receiver will not move over, so the slot guy has a free run for over 5 yards unless you audible the defense as well. The safety should just follow the slot receiver over.
        you can remedy this by doing a coverage audible. Just audible your defense to man align and they realign properly. I am glad it is handled like this and not automatic. Watch a Peyton Manning game and after he audilbes you will see the defense communicate with each other to check proper assignments.

        Having said that, the defense does need some work. EA needs to give us back defensive assignments. They claimed this year it automatically goes best on best but that was a load of crap. Teams that use creative personnel packages in their playbook move their players around (I do not mean they use packages, I mean in their default playbook they have formations where their #1 WR lines up in the slot or something). What end ups happening is that their #1 Wr gets a matchup advantage and it annoys me.

        However, at least as far as CC goes, EA better not "boost" user defense at all. The cpu offense is already incompetent and unable to offer a good challenge. Boosting pass coverage would make that worse.

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        • Clemmie
          Banned
          • Aug 2012
          • 72

          #5
          Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

          Originally posted by ggsimmonds
          you can remedy this by doing a coverage audible. Just audible your defense to man align and they realign properly. I am glad it is handled like this and not automatic. Watch a Peyton Manning game and after he audilbes you will see the defense communicate with each other to check proper assignments.

          Having said that, the defense does need some work. EA needs to give us back defensive assignments. They claimed this year it automatically goes best on best but that was a load of crap. Teams that use creative personnel packages in their playbook move their players around (I do not mean they use packages, I mean in their default playbook they have formations where their #1 WR lines up in the slot or something). What end ups happening is that their #1 Wr gets a matchup advantage and it annoys me.

          However, at least as far as CC goes, EA better not "boost" user defense at all. The cpu offense is already incompetent and unable to offer a good challenge. Boosting pass coverage would make that worse.
          Coverage audible/man align does not remedy what im talking about. When i see my opponent come out in 3 or 4 WR sets and i come out in man quarters to match, man align does not work here. Only thing that will is a quick flip of the formation or audible to a zone.

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          • ggsimmonds
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2009
            • 11235

            #6
            Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

            Originally posted by Clemmie
            Coverage audible/man align does not remedy what im talking about. When i see my opponent come out in 3 or 4 WR sets and i come out in man quarters to match, man align does not work here. Only thing that will is a quick flip of the formation or audible to a zone.
            That part of my post was directed to the guy talking about Peyton audibling.

            You are talking about something different. What you are saying is lets say you have a cover 1 blitz where the SS is assigned to the TE or slot. But if they are both lined up on the weakside of the formation the SS stays on his side of the field instead of shifting over to get on top of his man. That needs to be fixed. Usually it happens with either cover one or cover zero blitzes against overload formations like tripps strong.

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            • Clemmie
              Banned
              • Aug 2012
              • 72

              #7
              Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

              Originally posted by ggsimmonds
              That part of my post was directed to the guy talking about Peyton audibling.

              You are talking about something different. What you are saying is lets say you have a cover 1 blitz where the SS is assigned to the TE or slot. But if they are both lined up on the weakside of the formation the SS stays on his side of the field instead of shifting over to get on top of his man. That needs to be fixed. Usually it happens with either cover one or cover zero blitzes against overload formations like tripps strong.
              Exactly. Not only limited to cover 1 or cover 0, happens while in quarters man 2.

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              • thebizarrojerry
                Banned
                • Aug 2012
                • 506

                #8
                Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

                Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                The cpu offense is already incompetent and unable to offer a good challenge. Boosting pass coverage would make that worse.

                I find this hard to believe, what sliders are you using, and difficulty level?

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                • ggsimmonds
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 11235

                  #9
                  Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

                  Originally posted by thebizarrojerry
                  I find this hard to believe, what sliders are you using, and difficulty level?
                  You find it hard to believe? Take a trip to the sliders forum and read some of the threads.

                  I play on all-madden with most cpu sliders that pertain to offense at 100.
                  I think it is something like this:
                  (user/cpu)
                  QB accurracy 5/100
                  Pass blocking 10/100
                  WR catching 45/90
                  break tackle 15/100
                  run blocking 20/100
                  fumbles 25/75
                  pass reaction 35/90
                  pass rush 0/75
                  ints 25/75
                  Basically I use jarrod's black set all-madden sliders.

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                  • KenehPalmer
                    Just started!
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 7

                    #10
                    Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

                    The safety should just follow the slot receiver over.

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                    • Clemmie
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 72

                      #11
                      Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

                      Originally posted by KenehPalmer
                      The safety should just follow the slot receiver over.
                      No, the saftey shouldn't come out of the huddle misaligned in the first place.

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                      • ajk49er
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 715

                        #12
                        Re: Can we get a tuner update for the defense?

                        this and some love for the cpu run game would be lovely.
                        360-Chiefs-)

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