NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

[iRepIndiana]

I said Terry is just as inconsistent as Young.
Which isnt farfetched....But Terry's rating certainly is.
Jason Terry is a spot up shooter in today's NBA.
Maybe he used to create off the dribble. But those days are long gone. Getting chased off the 3 point line and CREATING a shot out of nothing are two different things.
What do we see more...Terry off the dribble or Terry shooting a wide open 3 because Dirk is doubled? Which is why losing Barea hurt the Mavs so much. Terry rarely creates any more. But JJ did for himself and others. Just facts.
No need to challenge my knowledge of the NBA.
I dont even play NBA 2k12...Just to let it be known.
But thats neither here nor there.

And if Young's Defense comes into question. Like I stated earlier
Hes top 15 in NBA as an ISOLATION defender.
I can pull stats and video to prove that but what for?
What is the basis for even saying Nick Young is a poor defender?
A couple plays? Numbers say otherwise and his numbers with the Clippers back that even further....
The NBA offense is all about isolation these days even more....he defended it well enough to be ranked 15th as an ISO defender in NBA last year...should translate to a well enough on ball defense rating.

Just saying...

and as far as Nick Young not dunking on anybody?...
Youtube Nick Young Dunks. He dunked on Lebron James...off two feet.
Dunked on some 7 footers. ...Go see for yourself....

There's more to defense than just defending the Iso game...

He's not a top 100 defender. He couldn't guard a wooden post.

[iRepIndiana]

Ty mvspree8 young is a scrub..over rated scrub at that

[chandlerbang]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

Plz don't get me started...

Hibbert is head and shoulders above Bynum when it comes down to the mental aspect. Bynum is a psycho point blank period. He decides when he wants and doesn't want to play.

And ability wise hibbert holds his own. He wasn't an all star for no reason.

this has nothing to do with the 2k ratings mental aspect???????????????

[AllStarDaDon]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

Yall trippin arguing Nick Young better then Terry.

Season averages
Jason Terry PPG 15 Reb 2.4 Assist 3.4 Steal 1.1
Nick Young PPG 9 Reb 1.5 Assist 0.4 Steal 0.52

Jason Terry attempted 874 FG all season and made 377
Nick Young attempted 206 and made 105

Career averages:
Jason Terry PPG 16.1 Assist 4.7 Steal 1.3 TO 2.06 0.380
Nick Young PPG 11.4 Assist 0.9 Steal 0.5 TO 1.16 3pt% 0.375

Jason Terry defensive rank in the NBA is 147
Nick Young's is 361

Jason Terry defended 510 shots this year and only 110 was made. FG% shot against Terry is 36.7 score % against 36.4
Nick Young defended 147 only 55 was made FG% shot against Young is 37.4 score % against Young is 40.7

So Jason Terry is better offensively and defensively then Nick Young. Despite taking more shots then Young over his career Terry is still more efficient in scoring.

Spoiler

[iLLosophy]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

John Hollinger wrote this today about Nick Young on ESPN.com

Scouting report
+ Scoring guard who excels in catch-and-shoot. Can get jumper off over anyone.
+ Tall for a 2 and decent athlete, but an underachieving defender. Bad rebounder.
+ Has weak handle and rarely takes more than one dribble. Passes even less often.

Analysis
You can't score an emptier 20 than this guy. A neat summary of the Nick Young Experience is that he averaged better than a point every two minutes and still finished with a player efficiency rating well below the league average. Let's just say the non-scoring categories are a bit wanting. Out of 67 small forwards, Young was 66th in assist ratio, 66th in rebound rate, and 61st in pure point rating. Young's assist ratio was the worst of any player with a usage rate over 15.

Young doesn't get to the basket much, but he definitely can stroke it. He made 36.5 percent of his 3s and 44.6 percent of his 2s beyond 16 feet. However, he has a poor short-to-midrange game (26.3%) and averaged less than a field goal per game at the rim. As a result, his true shooting percentage was ordinary.

Defensively, Young has some ability, but his focus comes and goes and some of the bigger 3s can overpower him. He wasn't particularly bad, but his metrics were slightly negative across the board. Additionally, his inability to rebound remains baffling considering his leaping ability. Young had a worse rebound rate than Luke Ridnour, Derek Fisher, Chris Duhon and Nate Robinson, among others, which is just embarrassing.

Hollinger's write up on Jason Terry from a couple days ago

Scouting report
+ Fast combo guard with deadly midrange jump shot, especially going right.
+ Not a true point guard but capable of creating off the dribble. Abysmal rebounder.
+ Lacks size and strength on defense but has fast hands. Better in cross-matches.

Analysis
Terry has become an ageless wonder, still putting up numbers as an undersized 2-guard thanks to his devastating accuracy with the jump shot. Terry shot 42.1 percent on 2s beyond 10 feet and 37.8 percent on 3s, with the latter accounting for nearly half of his shots. As a result, he averaged nearly a point every two minutes with a solid TS% even though he virtually never gets to the rim.

The biggest negative, offensively, is that Terry's turnover ratio keeps climbing. A jump shooter shouldn't be in the bottom half of shooting guards in turnover ratio, but Terry was last season.

Fewest Fouls Per 40 minutes, 2011-12
Player Team Fouls/40 min.
Steve Nash Phx 1.08
Jason Terry Dal 1.38
Joe Johnson Atl 1.41
Tayshaun Prince Det 1.48
Brandon Rush GS 1.49
Min. 500 minutes

Nonetheless, his primary shortcoming is at the defensive end. Terry has to cross-match defensively and check the opposing point guard, but quicker players can get by him and bigger ones play right over the top. His rebound rates are among the worst in basketball, although he doesn't foul -- only Steve Nash was whistled less often last season (see chart). Boston's personnel should allow Terry to keep cross-matching, and if so he'll continue to be very effective in his sixth man role.

[BluFu]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

Why does everybody want Rivers to be higher.. I must have completely missed him dominating in college or something

i'm just surprised luke walton is 1 point less. 'tis all

[CaliDude916]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

Still waiting for Cousins. He better be at least a 90.

[24ct]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

John Hollinger wrote this today about Nick Young on ESPN.com





Hollinger's write up on Jason Terry from a couple days ago

So what exactly does that player write up mean?
And Nick Young isnt a SF. Hes a SG so why is he being compared to SF?
Why did you even post that write up?
How does that matter to Young & Terry rating?
Underachieving by what standard?
Being ranked 15th best defender in the entire NBA in ISO situations says more than enough for his ability to defend the perimeter if you ask me. Pretty impressive stat for a guy some ppl are saying cant defend.

We're talking about a player in Terry on the decline and Nick Young... Jamal Crawford 2.0
The guy can score. Efficiency says little when you just stand catch and shoot as opposed to creating your own shot.
And like I said. As individual players. Young should be rated higher because he has more offensive & defensive skills based on athletism alone at this point in his career than Terry. Buy yall got it

[AllStarDaDon]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

So what exactly does that player write up mean?
And Nick Young isnt a SF. Hes a SG so why is he being compared to SF?
Why did you even post that write up?
How does that matter to Young & Terry rating?
Underachieving by what standard?
Being ranked 15th best defender in the entire NBA in ISO situations says more than enough for his ability to defend the perimeter if you ask me. Pretty impressive stat for a guy some ppl are saying cant defend.

We're talking about a player in Terry on the decline and Nick Young... Jamal Crawford 2.0
The guy can score. Efficiency says little when you just stand catch and shoot as opposed to creating your own shot.
And like I said. As individual players. Young should be rated higher because he has more offensive & defensive skills based on athletism alone at this point in his career than Terry. Buy yall got it

[RedRiddler]

Still waiting for Cousins. He better be at least a 90.

http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/03/demarcus-cousins-toothache.jpg

[RedRiddler]

Does anyone know how they decide who they reveal? I didn't think I would see Walton or Young B4 Lillard or Aldridge I wanna see at least 1 blazers by now....

[papaey]

Al Jeffersons rating was stated as well just so you know.lol

[RedRiddler]

Al Jeffersons rating was stated as well just so you know.lol

I hope that since his is that high LMA's will be 87-89

[Gatorfan Frank]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

Roy Hibbert rated higher than Dirk? Seems legit...

[Gatorfan Frank]

Re: NBA 2K13 Ratings - Odom, Jefferson, Nowitzki, Walton, Young and Terry

Nick Young is an offensive God in 2K12. Shoots better than Ray Allen, dunks over everyone, has a sick handle and crazy athleticism, can shoot off dribble/step-back/spin-jumper/and do runners all day, and even has some nice post moves. He's one of the best offensive players in 2K12, which is strange for a player who averaged 10ppg. It's good to see that he's been lowered a little bit.

Overall, whoever makes the ratings for 2K does a pretty poor job. It's like he just watches Youtube highlights and doesn't consult any advanced stats. I mean, Aaron Brooks is rated a 77? What a joke.