PES 2013 Available Worldwide - Post Your Impressions Here

[RoyceDa59]

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I was trying to figure out that stat. Do they not count "pass" time as part of possession?

Wish PES displayed this stat like FIFA; showing you where on the field those percentages come. In the demo, I would have games where the stat would say I won possession even though I was destroyed by the opposition.

In one instance, I spent most of it defending my own goal and lost the shot battle 7-1 so I am curious to know how I won the possession battle. Is it only counting 'on the foot' time for possession - in which case, I probably stand around more holding the ball but I wouldn't say I won the possession battle - not when 90% of the game was played on my half of the pitch.

Anyway. Great impressions so far. Keep em coming. I still have a long wait here in the states.

Yeah I think it is something that needs to be reworked in the game because sometimes I feel the stat isn't accurate. I try not to pay attention to it that much but i am stat guy, i like seeing stuff like how many passes a player complete and distanced covered, etc.

[ezio]

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And get this guys, the game actually comes with a manual. Like a hard copy, full on color manual! Mythical stuff!

A Manual? You don't say. What is that?

It also is probably about 50 pages too

[KG]

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Yeah I think it is something that needs to be reworked in the game because sometimes I feel the stat isn't accurate. I try not to pay attention to it that much but i am stat guy, i like seeing stuff like how many passes a player complete and distanced covered, etc.

Ive always thought that the game doesnt know how to accurately portray possession in terms of stats. There is a 0% chance that Konami will ever give an explanation.

[Matt10]

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Ive always thought that the game doesnt know how to accurately portray possession in terms of stats. There is a 0% chance that Konami will ever give an explanation.

From what I see in videos, the possession by the CPU seems to be a bit off. The passing, while nice looking, is very crisp and fast. The build up doesn't seem to be evident.

I'm not sure - someone with the game, please help. I hope the AI's build up is nice and accurate to the team - not looking like Barcelona every time.

[FluffyTonka]

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Yeah I'm inclined to think possession stats are broken.

I played brazil and was out shot 18 (12) to 2 (1) on top player, yet I won possession 59-41%. I can tell you there's no way the possession numbers at the end of the game feel as lopsided as they are telling us.

The CPU is probably too direct with the ball. They seem to push forward at all costs, even with a 2 goal lead. It'd be great to them poke it around the back and keep the ball at times.

Gameplay wise though, the game is challenging. It'd just add another layer if the CPU sorted out its possession better

[Matt10]

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Yeah I'm inclined to think possession stats are broken.

I played brazil and was out shot 18 (12) to 2 (1) on top player, yet I won possession 59-41%. I can tell you there's no way the possession numbers at the end of the game feel as lopsided as they are telling us.

The CPU is probably too direct with the ball. They seem to push forward at all costs, even with a 2 goal lead. It'd be great to them poke it around the back and keep the ball at times.

Gameplay wise though, the game is challenging. It'd just add another layer if the CPU sorted out its possession better

Yes - that's what I believe as well. It's been this way since the introduction to nexgen. PES 6 and PES 5 had it right.

Oh well, glad I'm on PC. There should be gameplay patches out soon by someone I hope.

[lnin0]

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I was wondering if anyone who has the game already and can play online.. can you please test for me if you get the chance if you can control manual keeper online? you can do this by L1 + R3 and it will put the cursor over the keepers head and you position him during free kicks or anytime during the match. I am wondering if you can do this online as well.. ? the reason I ask is because the last time I played a PES game online manual keeper was disabled

I do not think manual keeper control online is a good thing. Manual keeper is typically abused by online gamers. I know FIFA disables and hopefully PES does the same.

[rckabillyRaider]

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are both, fully editable fake leagues still in?

[RoyceDa59]

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Yes - that's what I believe as well. It's been this way since the introduction to nexgen. PES 6 and PES 5 had it right.

Oh well, glad I'm on PC. There should be gameplay patches out soon by someone I hope.

Gosh I miss those days in PES 5 & 6 would time waste only way to get them to do something close to this is giving a team the tactic "All Out Defence" and it should not be that way. Also other few things they need to bring back are grass stains on shorts, and also when someone gets injured and you kick the ball out the cpu would automatically punt the ball back to you.

[FluffyTonka]

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are both, fully editable fake leagues still in?

Sure are.

I'm d/l a prem league option file right now. One of the fake leagues is the championship the other the bundesliga.

Might start a ML right after it.

[juice2142]

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Sure are.

I'm d/l a prem league option file right now. One of the fake leagues is the championship the other the bundesliga.

Might start a ML right after it.

Can you share what option file it is and where you got this from?
How is it's authenticity?
Is dempsey on the spurs?

[steveeee]

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I do not think manual keeper control online is a good thing. Manual keeper is typically abused by online gamers. I know FIFA disables and hopefully PES does the same.

hmmm I had FIFA 12 until yesterday and did not know that because I guess I didn't play much 1 v 1 online. weird. Well I don't agree with you about the abusive thing.. how is putting the keeper in the correct position abusive? that's not how I look at it.. and fifa manual keeper is much different than in PES. so maybe your saying it's abusive in FIFA because you can have assisted manual controls on and etc there is full keeper controls. IN PES you don't actually make the save.. the computer does it.. alls you can control is actually moving the keepers position that is it... which imo is not an abusive option and is not easy to do... I still give up many easy goals bc of it if I decide to use it.. it's not easy. I just like doing it. it's a lot different than FIFA... it's not easy far from abusive option in PES and konami should allow this online imo

no cheese factor at all.. not even close

[IWWROCKS]

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Ok now i've been able to play the full game, here are the impressions of a PES newbie.

As I said earlier, I havent played PES since 08. Haven't owned one since like 06 or 07. Having played the demo I was impressed how far it had come and so got the full game.

The actual gameplay is very good. It feels very tactical which I like. The controls are taking time to get used too, especially the more advanced stuff like the whole trap and shoot thing. I will spend some time in the training lessons tonight.

The presentation is good visually. I love being able to play Champions League. As a Liverpool fan I miss that anthem being played on a tuesday/wednesday night!

The commentary i'm not too keen on. It's not really fluid. It seems like they're only ever really commentating when something dramatic is happening. That's a bit of a dissapointment to me. FIFA is a bit better in this sense. NBA 2k is the benchmark for me though, the commentary on that is fantastic.

Player intelligence for me is another slight dissapointment. AI just doesn't seem to make obvious runs. I pass it with Sterling to Suarez in the middle. The right back get's drawn in to Suarez, leaving a massive wide space for Sterling to run into. Instead, he runs back towards the halfway line?? :S

Master League is enjoyable. I've never played Master League before and it suprised me a little bit. I like it for the most part. Signing players i'm finding hard atm, but I did discover the "chances of signing" bit which has helped. Out of interest, what determines if someone will sign? Club reputation or something? ...I do not like the boots thing at all, but it seems that I share that dislike with alot of life long PES fans.

Overall it's very enjoyable. The speed and tactics of the gameplay makes it all worthwhile for me. I will try out Be a Legend later I think. I do miss licensing. It does seem a bit weird seeing Liverpool out there with a fake badge, kit and stadium. I want to just ignore it but I find it hard.

[rckabillyRaider]

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played a few games now. I think it has improved over both demos. The differences between teams tactics are easily noticeable. The pace and flow of the game on 0 speed feels just right. The defense knows when to contain and when to press. Also, one thing that has always bothered me about pes since they added the different speeds is that it felt in slow motion. As if konami just couldn't really program a slow gameplay speed without making it look and feel in slow motion. Well I was pleasantly surprised that they seemed to have really made it a lot better in that regard. Better than the demos IMO.

A negative I've noticed from the demos is that the fouls have been toned down. I actually preferred more fouls. The game runs very smooth on my pc as well. No slow downs at all. All in all I'm pleased so far.

[FluffyTonka]

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I've found with possession the CPU will play and react to how I play.

If I'm pressing them, they'll be direct. If I back off they'll knock it around and try and unlock me.

Another beautiful thing is when the CPU gets a lead and the clock approaches the hour mark. They'll get everyone behind the ball and wait for me. At that point it's pretty hard to break them down.

Longballs into the box from early crosses are a pleasure. I'm loving them.

Tactally there's so much more going on than FIFA ... It's great.