PES 2013 Available Worldwide - Post Your Impressions Here

[fearwhatnow]

Re: PES 2013 - Game Impression Thread

I've found with possession the CPU will play and react to how I play.

If I'm pressing them, they'll be direct. If I back off they'll knock it around and try and unlock me.

Another beautiful thing is when the CPU gets a lead and the clock approaches the hour mark. They'll get everyone behind the ball and wait for me. At that point it's pretty hard to break them down.

Longballs into the box from early crosses are a pleasure. I'm loving them.

Tactally there's so much more going on than FIFA ... It's great.

I just read your previous post and I was ready to post an answer like yours above.It all depends on your style of play.My recommendation is to play PES13 by picking a mediocre or even a bad team.I do that and wait behind the ball with zonal defense covering space.CPU will try to find empty lanes/sides, will backpass, will bring the ball from one side to another with crosses and will make mistakes that will give an opportunity for good counter attacks.
My settings are Top Player, 20min, speed -1.
My concern now is that 15min or 20min halves are good enough when playing Top Team Vs Top Team but seems like I need to crank up the minutes because I use mediocre teams.

[demencia_total]

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Alright, got my first win (had a few loses & draws in previous games). I can confirm what most people are saying in that the possession stats are sort of broken. I think another factor is that the AI tends to be reactive towards your play style. If you try and keep possession of the ball at all times, you will see them counter attack more often. This will be accentuated by the fact that they keep getting caught offside which is kinda cool considering the approach.

If you intentionally play a defensive game then you will see them play more possession but the reality is that very few of us play that way. The tactics play a huge part in the game in terms of how much your teammates move into space and such. If you change tactics to a defensive style, you will find it harder to move forward because your AI teammates seem to play it a lot safer and don't move as much into attacking positions. In my first few games, I saw myself dominating possession artificially. I was basically passing the ball in the backfield, whereas the CPU was smarter in how they attack and therefore got better chances. Still, the CPU is not a master of possession. It could use some work for next year's game.

I think where the game REALLY shines is on the defensive end. Defense is actually fun to play and you have several legit options. You can cover, rush, cover & rush (by rushing with your AI teammate), or rush & tackle (either standing or slide tackle). You have to be smart in most cases about how to defend certain players because if you keep rushing constantly you will get burned. Same thing if you give them too much space. It makes defensive play fully interactive instead of a passive activity as it is in most sports video games.

Scripting seems to be entirely gone. All goals & opportunities seem purely organic. I saw plenty of chances when in the past the AI would score on me to get back into the game and they actually missed chances that would otherwise go in automatically in past games. Mistakes will be punished but the AI is not infallible to errors without pressure. It makes the game unpredictable and gives you the impression that anything could happen at any moment instead of the "Uh oh, here they come to score" epidemic of past PES games.

On the unfortunate side of things, set pieces controlled by the human player seem pointless. More often than not I switch to the receiving player because every corner kicked by me seems to end in the same manner. No idea how to properly control placement on free kicks. It either goes out or hits the wall. I am hoping there is a trick to it although I don't expect to score often, just would like a bit more variety.

I'm still learning the controls but am improving slowly. Hopefully someone makes a few useful tutorials. Frankly, I don't care about fancy tricks but I do want to be able to know the intricacies of passing and close space dribbling.

[Matt10]

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Nice review DT - as far as the free kicks, I've experienced (since pES4) that you need to hold L2 and the analog direction of your free kick. This puts a whole heck of swerve on the ball - and pace. Power up half way and use the L2 swerve - the ball will travel shorter than normal, but dip at the end.

I finally got the game too. Early impressions are enjoyable - but this game needs to be played on Superstar to get a true challenge. The CPU plays well, but doesn't seem to build up, or defend good enough, on anything below Superstar.

With that said - I think you are correct, DT - in regards to how the CPU reacts to the style of our play. This morning I was just trying to get a quick half in before work. I was in a hurry - and just kept passing very quickly, and trying to force penetrating balls. The CPU surprised me and passed the ball throughout the backfield - eventually a long ball over the top set up their chances. There were also some nicely played through balls when they had the chance. It reminded me of yesterday's Tottenham-Lazio match. Tottenham dominated possession for the most part; but Lazio had some great chances off of their possession.

I love the Player ID. I'm not usually one for features in an organic sport like soccer/footy, but this is one that I thoroughly enjoy. It is so evident when a dribbler is on the ball. You know, like Montpellier's Cabella against Arsenal. He was everywhere, and each time tried some kind of trick - then got fouled. This was happening exactly in PES. I loved it.

Looking forward to getting some games in. I need to come to terms that this is KONAMI's engine. I am not a big fan of the player models, but the organic game play makes it all work. With the upcoming PESEDIT patch (downloading now at home) and the many...many PES13 PC modifications, this will be an incredible season of PES. The no-blur patch by itself has already made a big difference.

[Altimus]

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Uh, is it Tuesday yet?

[demencia_total]

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Nice review DT - as far as the free kicks, I've experienced (since pES4) that you need to hold L2 and the analog direction of your free kick. This puts a whole heck of swerve on the ball - and pace. Power up half way and use the L2 swerve - the ball will travel shorter than normal, but dip at the end.

I finally got the game too. Early impressions are enjoyable - but this game needs to be played on Superstar to get a true challenge. The CPU plays well, but doesn't seem to build up, or defend good enough, on anything below Superstar.

With that said - I think you are correct, DT - in regards to how the CPU reacts to the style of our play. This morning I was just trying to get a quick half in before work. I was in a hurry - and just kept passing very quickly, and trying to force penetrating balls. The CPU surprised me and passed the ball throughout the backfield - eventually a long ball over the top set up their chances. There were also some nicely played through balls when they had the chance. It reminded me of yesterday's Tottenham-Lazio match. Tottenham dominated possession for the most part; but Lazio had some great chances off of their possession.

I love the Player ID. I'm not usually one for features in an organic sport like soccer/footy, but this is one that I thoroughly enjoy. It is so evident when a dribbler is on the ball. You know, like Montpellier's Cabella against Arsenal. He was everywhere, and each time tried some kind of trick - then got fouled. This was happening exactly in PES. I loved it.

Looking forward to getting some games in. I need to come to terms that this is KONAMI's engine. I am not a big fan of the player models, but the organic game play makes it all work. With the upcoming PESEDIT patch (downloading now at home) and the many...many PES13 PC modifications, this will be an incredible season of PES. The no-blur patch by itself has already made a big difference.

Well, I don't know what the hell I was thinking getting the game on PS3. It was a spurt of the moment thing that I got excited from seeing in store. Should have bought for PC. I don't really want to spend the money again but we'll see.

I'll take your advice and go into Superstar. I started off in Top Player and got creamed a few times, but I am noticing that its getting easier every time I play and there doesn't seem to be much of a difference from Professional to Top Player.

I am not too fussed about presentation because until the next generation of consoles gets established we aren't going to see much improvement. While I can get much cleaner visuals on the PC with AA and the graphic mods, both games are showing their age. They look good but I guess I've been spoiled by getting a high end PC and seeing what is truly capable of. Console games are starting to look old in comparison to games that are built for PC hardware.

Overall, I'm pretty satisfied. I think I'll be playing this for quite a few months. I just hope I can get a decent option file for our version on the game. If its the same as the UK, then I'm golden.

[Qb]

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Thanks for the early impressions. I stuck this one, but we'll likely be told to make a new thread for the NA release on Tuesday. I know it's inconvenient, but it has to do with tagging for the front page.

Also, remember to keep the focus on PES! :wink:

[RaptorMania]

Does the game play like the second demo? Because everything was just right in the second one. I'm hoping they didn't mess it up and ruin a great game. How are the shots and passing? Does the ball feel like it did in the demo or is there no weight to them?

Can't wait till tuesday.

[BrianFifaFan]

Re: PES 2013 available in Europe & Asia, Post Your Impressions Here

Okay, this going to sound dumb, but here goes. Where can I buy this for PC as a download? Amazon doesn't have it, Steam, either. Help....

[juice2142]

Re: PES 2013 available in Europe & Asia, Post Your Impressions Here

Does the game play like the second demo? Because everything was just right in the second one. I'm hoping they didn't mess it up and ruin a great game. How are the shots and passing? Does the ball feel like it did in the demo or is there no weight to them?

Can't wait till tuesday.

i've read somewhere (might have been another forum) where the ppl who had the game thought it played a lot like the 2nd demo. I think they said that there were less fouls called. The fouls thing is more or less how the game is going, etc. so i am not worried about that. Gameplay in general though is same as demo 2 from what i hear.

[ezio]

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Okay, this going to sound dumb, but here goes. Where can I buy this for PC as a download? Amazon doesn't have it, Steam, either. Help....

http://uk.gamesplanet.com/buy-downlo...3-3557-34.html

[rckabillyRaider]

Re: PES 2013 available in Europe & Asia, Post Your Impressions Here

Does the game play like the second demo? Because everything was just right in the second one. I'm hoping they didn't mess it up and ruin a great game. How are the shots and passing? Does the ball feel like it did in the demo or is there no weight to them?

Can't wait till tuesday.

I would say yes and even better. The fouls do seem to have been toned down. Passing feels good. You do see the passes that don't go to the intended target but I don't see it as a gamebreaking issue. Only happens a couple times per game. Not bad at all like some people on other sites have made it out to be IMO.

[ps3veron]

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Anyone having issues finding ranked opponents online?

I had a real smooth time yesterday but today it seems like I can't find anyone it gets to "Establishing Connection" and then breaks.

I did manage to play 2 unranked games using the lobby and they were super smooth however.

Seems like the servers are getting tanked at launch?

[ezio]

Re: PES 2013 available in Europe & Asia, Post Your Impressions Here

I would say yes and even better. The fouls do seem to have been toned down. Passing feels good. You do see the passes that don't go to the intended target but I don't see it as a gamebreaking issue. Only happens a couple times per game. Not bad at all like some people on other sites have made it out to be IMO.

I agree although it my first game I had a decent amount of fouls called. I was Roma vs. Lazio and I scored on a FK with Totti. Seems even smoother and a little more polished I guess is the best way to put it.

Grabbing the Fifa early release to see how it compares.

[RaptorMania]

Thanks guys that's good to hear. I love the second demo, so if its even more polished makes it that much better.

[Matt10]

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How is everyone getting along with the crossing goals? I have yet to score one - same with a corner. Seems the heading is a lot more to do with timing this time around.

Playing this on the PC with PESEDIT, Camera settings - no blur - man, what a joy. Honeymoon is going strong