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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
After playing a lot of player career mode (only controlling one player) the AI problems really stand out. I feel like it is 1 vs 11 out there. It makes controlling a single player really tough. My midfielder got moved up to striker in the formation, but I ended up basically playing sweeper behind my defensive backs. They just let the other team walk in on net.
You kind of have to control every player, as the game is set up where you have to do everything yourself. It seems like sometimes there's two players open and you can only cover one. The game can be fun but extremely frustrating at the same time.Go Sabres!Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
Has anyone else noticed during Career Mode audio updates when the scores are read off after matches that when there is a game that ended in penalties, the guy will say that the wrong team won? Ex: Barca beats Real Madrid 5-4 on penalties, the guy will say "Real Madrid won 5-4 in penalties"Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
Yeah. Under the hood, FIFA is still in pre-"Tactical Defending" mode. All of your teammates play the same as they did when you could just press the defender. They're programmed to depend on you to be able to just run up and take the ball. You're pretty much on your own with the whole "tactical" deal.After playing a lot of player career mode (only controlling one player) the AI problems really stand out. I feel like it is 1 vs 11 out there. It makes controlling a single player really tough. My midfielder got moved up to striker in the formation, but I ended up basically playing sweeper behind my defensive backs. They just let the other team walk in on net.
You kind of have to control every player, as the game is set up where you have to do everything yourself. It seems like sometimes there's two players open and you can only cover one. The game can be fun but extremely frustrating at the same time.Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
I was about to point this out as well, less clearances also lead to less corners and throw-ins as well. And a bit annoying at times when their clearance down the field somehow finds one of their open players in midfield.Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
Spot on. That's what I was trying to get at in my review for the game. AI players going into a trance isn't only a defense-only phenomenon, but also when the ball is in transit for any reason other than a result of a pass or a shot, like rebounds or deflections. It seems like when that second ball is in the air, your team just hangs around until it lands on somebody's foot, and then they snap back into the game and start moving to their positions. It's almost like if the ball isn't in the air because of a pass, then the AI players can't "read" where it is going, and has to wait until it's "active" again when somebody takes control of it. (Forgive me, I know it's clear as mud, but I'm a little pressed for time)
I think this is also related to why we're seeing the CPU playing the ball out from the back so much. It's because they can.
Let's say it's a corner, my player heads the ball towards the net and the goalie parries it out to a defender's foot, who is still inside the penalty box. I'd say if that was the case in real life, 7 out of 10 times they would then hoof it anywhere. But as far as I can tell, probably only 2 out of 10 times that happens in FIFA, and the rest the CPU can just play it out. Because if you decide to then pressure the defender with the ball, the rest of your AI teammates are only just coming to life and realizing where the ball is and how they should act. By then it's way too late for them to apply any sort of meaningful pressure to take away the ball player's options. If that was happening because of player attributes, then cool, but at the moment it just seems like a limitation in the AI thinking.Last edited by kelvinmak; 10-02-2012, 07:16 PM.Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
enjoying it. i have noticed that in the later parts of the game the AI DEF seems to turn it up a notch which is awesome.Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
I only see this when I am vigilant on defense by constantly switching players.
The player I switch to is always 5 yds away and standing still so I have to hold LT + RT + A + L stick towards the player to get into a reasonable defensive position.
Depending on where the ball is on the pitch I will press tight or shade a passing lane. Of course I have to repeat this routine pretty much nonstop when the AI reaches my 1/3rd of the pitch after every pass.
It would be nice to NOT have to do all of this to get realistic looking gameplay but I have to admit that when I do all of the defensive work myself the flow of the game is much better and feels way more realistic to me so it's worth it IMO.Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
You def have to be very active on defense. I contain usually and see the CPU work the ball. I have noticed they get a lot more tackles than me. I'm trying to work on my tackling. I think the CPU should play defense for the user as well as they do for themselves but that's not the case.Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
It is hard to stop the CPU from advancing because your teammates play too far off them. By the time you switch to them and pressure the CPU just moved the ball to the next guy. You can't spam the teammate pressure button either as you'll just get your players all out of position and make it worse.Go Sabres!Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
Agreed on the teammate defensive issues. When I play friends online, the constant 'switch & close down' style of D is vital due to the space afforded by NPC teammates.
However, if any of you are playing offline, try raising the marking slider. It appears to affect how tightly defenders play off the ball. I have it quite high right now (85 IIRC), but I'm still trying to find the right balance. I'm not seeing the same issue I did last year where the defense would completely lose its shape with a very high marking setting. This works well with lowering the line length setting, as brings the defenders closer together, perhaps mitigating potential adverse effects of high marking.Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
Marking helps but I still don't trust them to defend once the other team is close to goal. As long as you can switch players yourself you can handle things, but playing as a single player on the field can be a nightmare (and in player career mode I can't adjust the strategy).
The big issue seems to be that the slower defenders don't respect the speed of attackers enough. They react just a moment too slowly sometimes and give up far too many chances that should never happen. It is funny but NHL has the exact same issue. It isn't like they are horrible at it, but there's just a moment where they just don't react quite fast enough. It sometimes gives the attackers just an extra moment of opportunity.Go Sabres!Comment
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Re: FIFA 13 Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here
Sometimes, I try to mitigate the soft marking of my CPU teammates by using RB to double team and just allow the CPU to mark the man.Comment
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