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  • UDM2004
    Rookie
    • Jul 2011
    • 303

    #1

    Finding Gem QB's

    Does anyone have any great tips on finding those QB gems? I'm playing as UTSA and I've scouted around 10 QB's this season and none of them have the arm strength or accuracy that I am looking for.
  • Heyuimintojsus
    Pro
    • Nov 2004
    • 759

    #2
    Re: Finding Gem QB's

    Originally posted by UDM2004
    Does anyone have any great tips on finding those QB gems? I'm playing as UTSA and I've scouted around 10 QB's this season and none of them have the arm strength or accuracy that I am looking for.
    A lot of the ATH turn out to be awesome QBs and DBs. I have probably 7-8 on my team that can play QB. I scouted a 69 and he came out 79 overall.

    But my QBs have mostly been the ATH variety. I get the fastest I can find and live with the power/accuracy. Of those I have, all but 1 or 2 is under 90 speed, and that's like 88-89.

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    • UDM2004
      Rookie
      • Jul 2011
      • 303

      #3
      Thanks I haven't looked there. What are there power and accuracy numbers look like and what caliber are they usually 3, 2 or 1 stars?

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      • dominique314
        Rookie
        • Jul 2012
        • 71

        #4
        Re: Finding Gem QB's

        wen you see a ath with the throwing power and accuracy around b get them.they aint that hard to recruit nor find lol...i have 4 quarterbacks with speed of 93+ and one with a 86 ...all of them have throwing accuracy that are past 85 three have 90+ lol but be warned if you try to practice with your team your qb will always scramble outta the pocket

        but make sure you put accuracy before power..most of them are 3 or 4 stars and also they all be gems most likely i recruited about 15 outta those 13 have be gems unscouted(lucky me)

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        • jello1717
          All Star
          • Feb 2006
          • 5720

          #5
          Re: Finding Gem QB's

          Originally posted by dominique314
          but make sure you put accuracy before power
          I disagree with this. Most QBs will gain 3-4 THA every year but they won't gain more than 1 THP. Because of this as a QB progresses his lower ACC can be made up while his lower THP can't.
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          • JoshC1977
            All Star
            • Dec 2010
            • 11564

            #6
            Re: Finding Gem QB's

            Originally posted by jello1717
            I disagree with this. Most QBs will gain 3-4 THA every year but they won't gain more than 1 THP. Because of this as a QB progresses his lower ACC can be made up while his lower THP can't.
            Can't believe I am agreeing with a Michigan fan

            But yes, a lack of THP can be much harder to overcome than THA. Keep in mind that THP's criticality is partly dependent on your style of offense. If you like to dink and dunk, it is less of a problem than if you like to stretch the field.

            ...and by the way, I agree also with Dominique in that Athletes are a good place to go to find QBs (particularly good runners).
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            • dominique314
              Rookie
              • Jul 2012
              • 71

              #7
              Re: Finding Gem QB's

              Originally posted by jello1717
              I disagree with this. Most QBs will gain 3-4 THA every year but they won't gain more than 1 THP. Because of this as a QB progresses his lower ACC can be made up while his lower THP can't.
              well if your a 1/2 star school you can get a qb who can start right away 9/10 times who can also run n throw .....n there so easy to recruit in a online dynasty cuz theres so many .but yea,they right about the thp part ath qbs usually dont cut it in that deparment lol but they can still throw it about 55 yards which is good enough for me(thp of atleast 80)

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              • TimLawNYC
                Rookie
                • Mar 2009
                • 340

                #8
                Re: Finding Gem QB's

                Originally posted by UDM2004
                Does anyone have any great tips on finding those QB gems? I'm playing as UTSA and I've scouted around 10 QB's this season and none of them have the arm strength or accuracy that I am looking for.
                The reason none of the QBs you're looking at have the power or accuracy you want is because you are UTSA. You're not going to have much luck getting a superstar recruit when you are at a 1-star school. Even the gems you might find would likely be unobtainable if they had desirable attributes. You could scout some 5-star QBs to see better stats but they're not going to sign with you. Even gems usually have a surprising amount of competition, because other schools can scout them too.

                There's a reason that it's difficult to play as a low-ranked school. QBs with 85+ THP and THA don't just fall into your lap. If you want to recruit better players, you need to go to a better school.

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                • UDM2004
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 303

                  #9
                  Thank you all for the tips. I will start looking in the ath's for a qb. From what I gather mid to upper 70's for power and mid to upper 60's in acc is what I can expect with a low star school. I like to play a pro style offense like Stanford or old Michigan so I was focusing on pocket or balanced qb's but I guess I will have to change.

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                  • TimLawNYC
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 340

                    #10
                    Re: Finding Gem QB's

                    Originally posted by UDM2004
                    Thank you all for the tips. I will start looking in the ath's for a qb. From what I gather mid to upper 70's for power and mid to upper 60's in acc is what I can expect with a low star school. I like to play a pro style offense like Stanford or old Michigan so I was focusing on pocket or balanced qb's but I guess I will have to change.

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                    You're about right on the numbers; you're doing really well if you can get a guy with both THP and THA in the (even low) 70s at a school like UTSA.

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                    • DataBull
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                      • Mar 2012
                      • 138

                      #11
                      Re: Finding Gem QB's

                      Originally posted by TimLawNYC
                      You're about right on the numbers; you're doing really well if you can get a guy with both THP and THA in the (even low) 70s at a school like UTSA.
                      I'm not sure I agree with this. On All-American recruiting difficulty, I have been able to find a sign guys in the upper 70s/lower 80s with UMass. UTSA has the recruiting hotbed of Texas to start with. In the preseason, stack up three star or even two star QBs (and ATHs with high THP and THA) from your pipeline states that have a few big time programs in their Top 10. Scout them until you have found two or three that fit the bill. Then recuit them early and hard. The big programs won't go after the three star players until they lose out on or sign some of the four and five star guys. Even if they go after them, they won't give them a lot of time early. Pound your advantage, using whatever categories are not in the D's. Give scholly offer and promises early, then try and sway those topics you are good in until you can get good points for them. It's easy to use the No Redshirt and Playing time promises with little risk of failing to keep the promise.

                      You will sacrifice a bit at the other positions by focusing hard to get one QB, but there are always WRs and sometimes RBs you can find later in the recruiting season. Once you land one good QB, it is easier to win therefore easier to recruit in the later years.

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                      • UDM2004
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 303

                        #12
                        I like what you are saying. Are most of your qb's ath or qb? Have you ever found any late in the season? I focus on players that still have 10 schools remaining and only have one school listed with no offers (pipelines first). Should I change this?

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                        • football200414
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                          • Aug 2010
                          • 235

                          #13
                          Re: Finding Gem QB's

                          I completely disagree with the 70s comment. I have used WKU in 2 different dynasties and, in five seasons combined, I have landed ATH-QB's with 80+ in both passing ratings. The best one I ever got was 89 power & 81 accuracy in my first season at WKU. He was a JC-SO but still carried my team for 3 seasons with his legs & arm

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                          • UDM2004
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                            • Jul 2011
                            • 303

                            #14
                            So they are out there but mostly as ath's.

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                            • UDM2004
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                              • Jul 2011
                              • 303

                              #15
                              Are athletes better to recruit over the individual positions?

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