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  • Dmrepsuga5
    Rookie
    • Mar 2009
    • 66

    #1

    Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

    I'm seeing a big issue in the differences in player ratings in my depth charts section outside the game in my online CC, and then in-game.

    Example:
    I'm the Ravens...DT Ma'ke Kemoeatu I have setup as an 83 OVR DT based off the best scheme possible. Then, in my actual games, Kemoeatu's rating is all the way down to 70?!?

    What the heck is that about? This happens at several positions. My DE's (Jones and Macphee) are setup for optimal scheme, show up as 81+82 respectively, then in an actual game, I look at the depth chart and they're in the low 70's?

    Anyone know what's going or seen this for themselves? Any word of this being patched?
  • bigdfan76
    Pro
    • Sep 2008
    • 655

    #2
    Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

    I was owndering the same thing. It would seem scheme is reflected in the depth chart outside of games, player management, trade player...etc. But in game depth chart does NOT refeltc scheme. Or it has to do with consistency and confidence?
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    • Dmrepsuga5
      Rookie
      • Mar 2009
      • 66

      #3
      Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

      I don't think it has anything to do with Consistency or Confidence. Why be rated an 83 and then a 70 in the actual game? Is this guy forever not confident/inconsistent? What do these ratings mean? What do they play off of? What's more important?

      How can you make ANY personnel moves if the rating you may see in a trade/free agent acquisition be so far off of their in-game ratings?

      My lineups in-game would look insanely different from how I have them setup if I changed them every time I play.

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      • svedda
        Rookie
        • Sep 2011
        • 160

        #4
        Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

        Each rating like speed, stength, etc is the same in and out of games so don't think it's a problem...scheme ratings just show how well they fit your scheme, not exactly just how talented they are.

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        • DouglaCorbi
          Just started!
          • Oct 2012
          • 8

          #5
          Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

          It would seem scheme is reflected in the depth chart outside of games

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          • Dmrepsuga5
            Rookie
            • Mar 2009
            • 66

            #6
            Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

            So why be different? I feel it has to mean something...if it didn't, why make the stings different,

            So you're saying overall rating ONLY means how they fit in your scheme? Makes no sense. How they fit in your scheme impacts their overall rating...who knows man.

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            • svedda
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 160

              #7
              Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

              Yeah but it's still the same player and ratings. If it says 70 ingame or 82 outside it's still the same individual ratings like speed, strength, etc. Idk why it just shows true overall ingame, maybe it's just easier that way but doesn't really seem like a problem.

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              • Dmrepsuga5
                Rookie
                • Mar 2009
                • 66

                #8
                Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                But when my starting DT who should be an 83, is all of a sudden a 70, and lower than my 4th string DT...it's just weird. Why are the ratings different for some guys, and not others?

                Example: my 3rd DT is a 76 OVR both in the game, and in the CC personnel area. Kemoeatue, my starter is an 83, but then 70 in game. Can any of the EA guys chime in?

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                • 7up3345
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 178

                  #9
                  Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                  True, scheme rating and "real ratings" are different, but Consistency also has something to do with it.

                  From what I remember, players with low consistency play outside there peak rating on a regular basis. Ex. Rookie

                  High consistency players will remain the same rating all of the time, ex. Experienced players.

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                  • thebizarrojerry
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 506

                    #10
                    Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                    In-game it doesn't properly take into account your scheme, it just tallies up all the ratings and creates a different overall. As long as he's high in the depth chart in the ccm menu not in-game then it's okay

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                    • SloeyEZ
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1363

                      #11
                      Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                      Originally posted by Dmrepsuga5
                      But when my starting DT who should be an 83, is all of a sudden a 70, and lower than my 4th string DT...it's just weird. Why are the ratings different for some guys, and not others?

                      Example: my 3rd DT is a 76 OVR both in the game, and in the CC personnel area. Kemoeatue, my starter is an 83, but then 70 in game. Can any of the EA guys chime in?

                      Most likely, and I say that because I am not EA, I've just played HC where this style was used before, the changes you are seeing in your OVR are because of the dynamic ratings concept which is used to simulate hot/cold streaks, changes in scheme, familiarity, and team fit. If you've noticed, when signing FA there is a "desire" field that lets you know how much this player would like playing for you.

                      Mostly though, the changes in OVR from your roster/depth chart outside of game to the difference inside the game when you look is how your player is feeling for that game and like mentioned above has a GREAT deal to do with their consistency! High consistency players will have a MUCH smaller margin of variance in their OVR.

                      Hope that helps.

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                      • Dmrepsuga5
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 66

                        #12
                        Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                        Guys on hot streaks have lower ratings in-game too.

                        I'll take a look at consistency I guess?

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                        • Dmrepsuga5
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 66

                          #13
                          Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                          Originally posted by Dmrepsuga5
                          Guys on hot streaks have lower ratings in-game too.

                          I'll take a look at consistency I guess?
                          Kemoeatu has a 0 consistency rating...so that gave me hope that was the answer. So maybe this explains the 83 going down to 70 in-game. But then I looked at my 3rd string DT, Antonio Dixon. He's 76 in CC depth chart, and 76 in-game...but guess what his consistency is? ZERO

                          Then looked at Terrence Cody...another guy who doesn't lose a lot in game...his consistency trait= ZERO.

                          Debunked that I guess.

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                          • SloeyEZ
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1363

                            #14
                            Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                            Originally posted by Dmrepsuga5
                            Kemoeatu has a 0 consistency rating...so that gave me hope that was the answer. So maybe this explains the 83 going down to 70 in-game. But then I looked at my 3rd string DT, Antonio Dixon. He's 76 in CC depth chart, and 76 in-game...but guess what his consistency is? ZERO

                            Then looked at Terrence Cody...another guy who doesn't lose a lot in game...his consistency trait= ZERO.

                            Debunked that I guess.
                            Because I would guess only starters get hot/cold streaks, rest of the roster is just as is.

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                            • cad5289
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1

                              #15
                              Re: Scheme Ratings vs. In-Game Ratings

                              Just would like to see how people have responded to this after a bit of time, to make sure Hot/Cold streaks and the consistency rating is the source of this issue

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