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  • feeq14
    MVP
    • Jun 2004
    • 3526

    #1

    what does the size trait count for?

    First of all i have noticed that the size trait seems unconnected from size. I have seen 5-10 CBs with 90 size ratings and 6-1 cbs with 80s for no apparent reason. But at the end of the day what does it mean?
  • nolan887
    Rookie
    • Sep 2009
    • 466

    #2
    Re: what does the size trait count for?

    Originally posted by feeq14
    First of all i have noticed that the size trait seems unconnected from size. I have seen 5-10 CBs with 90 size ratings and 6-1 cbs with 80s for no apparent reason. But at the end of the day what does it mean?
    The size rating is calculated from the height and weight of a player while also factoring in the position and player type of that individual. For example, a Power RB who is 6'0", 247lbs would have a 99 size dating while a Speed HB of the same size would have a much lower size rating.
    "Yo Soy Fiesta."
    -Rob Gronkowski

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    • feeq14
      MVP
      • Jun 2004
      • 3526

      #3
      Re: what does the size trait count for?

      Originally posted by nolan887
      The size rating is calculated from the height and weight of a player while also factoring in the position and player type of that individual. For example, a Power RB who is 6'0", 247lbs would have a 99 size dating while a Speed HB of the same size would have a much lower size rating.
      Ok so that does make some sense. I guess if the 6-1 CB was a "prototype" then he would have a 99 rating, but a 5-10 CB as a man to man can still have a high rating. I get it. Still i dont get or see how any of this factors into the games mechanics much. But i guess it is a good start to the overall concept.

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      • nolan887
        Rookie
        • Sep 2009
        • 466

        #4
        Re: what does the size trait count for?

        Originally posted by feeq14
        Ok so that does make some sense. I guess if the 6-1 CB was a "prototype" then he would have a 99 rating, but a 5-10 CB as a man to man can still have a high rating. I get it. Still i dont get or see how any of this factors into the games mechanics much. But i guess it is a good start to the overall concept.
        It seems "size", "intangible", and "physical" don't factor into the mechanics, but the take into account the players attributes that matter most to make it easier to compare players and scout players
        "Yo Soy Fiesta."
        -Rob Gronkowski

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        • SA1NT401
          Banned
          • Sep 2007
          • 3498

          #5
          I still feel they mean or effect nothing in the grand scheme of it all....

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          • nolan887
            Rookie
            • Sep 2009
            • 466

            #6
            Re: what does the size trait count for?

            Originally posted by SA1NT401
            I still feel they mean or effect nothing in the grand scheme of it all....
            Agreed, just helpful for the casual players and people who don't understand what each stat does or means.
            "Yo Soy Fiesta."
            -Rob Gronkowski

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            • Arrow218
              Banned
              • Dec 2011
              • 348

              #7
              Re: what does the size trait count for?

              I have 5-9 180 pound players with 90+ size, but 6-3 220 pounders with size in the 80s. I don't understand it.

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              • eraserx13
                Rookie
                • Sep 2003
                • 265

                #8
                Re: what does the size trait count for?

                Size rating is tied to your scheme. For example, if you have your DT set at Pass rusher, guys who fit that mold ie 6'1" 295lb DT would have a high physical rating. Under that scheme, a typical Nose Tackle who is 6'5 345lb would have a low physical rating for you. In the end it all depends on your scheme.

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                • Dawg1919
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 46

                  #9
                  Re: what does the size trait count for?

                  I think what he is trying to say is that a scheme, such as a run stopping cornerback will show that a Corner with bigger size which is preferred in real life for that type of scheme is downgraded in Madden.

                  Yes, for every other position the scheme correalates to the numbers in regards to size except for corner back and it's relative scheme. I like to have my corners bigger, and I have noticed it as well.

                  However, I have seen size make a considerable difference in how a person moves within the game. For example, a RB who is 5'8 180 can move quicker and stop on a dime better than a RB who is 6'2 225 and has almost identical attributes in speed, acceleration, elusiviness, and agility. So with that in mind, the CPU will downgrade a corner because his bigger size does not allow him to be more "quick". Even though like numbers, as far as attributes are the same.

                  People who say size doesn't make a difference in this year's game is full of it.

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                  • General Butt Naked
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 151

                    #10
                    Re: what does the size trait count for?

                    I would hope a players size would effect how the infinity engine works. The actual attribute wouldn't do anything because its just an indicator from position to position. I think it just meant to assist u when evaluating talent. But since size doesn't matter in certain instances, like blocking engagements because its not physics based, then a Tackles size attribute really doesn't matter.

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                    • splff3000
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 2867

                      #11
                      Re: what does the size trait count for?

                      Hmm, this is pretty interesting stuff. I never really care what the size "rating" was before. I've always been concerned with does his actual size and weight fit what I want. I'll look a lil deeper now the next time I'm looking at someone.
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                      • jmacz
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 89

                        #12
                        Re: what does the size trait count for?

                        It does have something to do with ratings, I created myself for a solo CCM as a route running WR, and I went to the Patriots. I made the player 5'7 175 or something and got a 99 size rating and a 1 point boost to my rating compared from the time before when i was 5'9 200.

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                        • justinwhitaker11
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 69

                          #13
                          Re: what does the size trait count for?

                          It sure has nothing to do with the line play. There is a video floating around here where this guy creates the smallest player possible and put him on the o line with a 5 in all the blocking ratings. The guy was blocking like a boss. It looked so ridiculous. So don't spend much time worrying about your lineman's ratings and size. They don't matter at all when playing. Probably matter when simming though.

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