Madden NFL 13 Title Update #3 Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360, PS3)

[DJ]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Title Update #3 Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360, PS3)

I just played a close game against the Titans with the Jags and won 17-13. I feel okay about the game post patch, but there was definitely some stuff I was shaking my head about. Anyway, I'll give the bad first so we can get that out of the way...

The Bad:

• The CPU got up 13-0 in the first half through some dynamic playcalling (dropped back 15 times to pass the ball and 13 times to run the ball) but almost immediately after they got that big lead, their playcalling became stagnant. Chris Johnson on 1st and 2nd down was almost assured, and even sometimes on 3rd down. He ended up with 28 carries. Only one other person carried the ball all game.
• The CPU would run fantastic against me, and then negate it by calling a bunch of toss plays that would often end in 5-7 yard losses.
• The playcalling was just altogether bad, and a huge disappointment to someone whose only big gripe with the game was playcalling.

The Good:

• The CPU ran the ball really well for the most part. I played on pretty much default All-Madden and it seemed almost perfect. Johnson ended up with like 117 yards on 28 carries.
• Offense almost felt perfect. Between the seemingly tuned physics and challenge the CPU gives on defense, I was in heaven for half of the game (the half where I had the ball).
• Nice to see all the cameras working like they should.

Overall, I'd say the bad outweighs the good by just a hair because the game is almost unplayable with the stale CPU playcalling. It also is extremely irksome to me that the CPU runs the ball 30 times in a game but only one other guy outside of Johnson gets a single touch. The Physics feel awesome, and have me extremely excited for the future of NCAA as well as Madden. But as of right now, I'm having a very frustrating overall experience.

Ben, I feel the same way. There are times when Madden 13 is a blast to play, but like you said, it never seems to last for an entire game.

The CPU playcalling needs to be addressed ... and sooner rather than later. There's no way I can play through multiple seasons if the CPU runs the same offense game after game.

[Coper3000]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Title Update #3 Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360, PS3)

It's been sort of touched upon- but haven't seen a true answer, but you can edit players' gear and attributes, but you can't edit their name? Would be great to actually edit real college players for next season (after year 1).

[Rushdown]

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Sleeve edits seem to be messed up. I edit my generated rookie RE to have arm sleeves, foot wraps and a dark visor. When I play the actual game, he has no arm sleeves, but does have the rest of the edits. When I go back to edit him thinking it didn't save or something, he's sitting there with the arm sleeves. They just never appear in-game.

The only reason I actually want him to have sleeves is because the guy's picture doesn't match the in-game model. I can't stand seeing his picture looking the color of Tony Gonzales, and then his game model being what must have been the darkest black available.

[icicle22]

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Regarding players getting XP in practice mode. In my existing online CCM I took the Browns into a weekly practice and played a scenario that that had me play the whole second half. I force fed my recievers to the tune of 300 yds and 5 TDs between Travis Benjamin and Josh Gordon. After finishing practice neither Weeden, Benjamin or Gordon recieved any new XP. TO boot I have purchased the coach's WR XP boost and still nothing. This was going on before the patch where my recievers seemed to not ever get any substantial XP...regardless of reaching goals.

Maybe we have to start a new CCM?

[RogueHominid]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Title Update #3 Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360, PS3)

You can manually change the appearance ratings back...to fix it. just write them down before you edit. Atleast in CCM.

I've attempted this with OL and it doesn't work (offline CCM, started fresh with the new patch). I edited equipment and then found a miniature Jake Scott in the pre-season opener. I backed out, jacked up his appearance numbers, went back to the game, and he was still super small.

On the plus side, I really like that the CPU can run with authority now. That's a game changer for me. I'm very excited about the game play itself.

[treq21]

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I've attempted this with OL and it doesn't work (offline CCM, started fresh with the new patch). I edited equipment and then found a miniature Jake Scott in the pre-season opener. I backed out, jacked up his appearance numbers, went back to the game, and he was still super small.

On the plus side, I really like that the CPU can run with authority now. That's a game changer for me. I'm very excited about the game play itself.

How cna you be excited when the run pass ratio is completely screwed up? Or are you not seeing that?

[JasonZimmerman]

I mean really did anyone think EA was going to get it all right? I'm thankful for the patch but come on the tiny arm thing. i think they need to start looking at there staff of programmers alittle bit closer if this is true. geez

Is this on PS3 or 360? I got PS3 and I didn't notice it. I haven't been through an entire season yet though.

[RogueHominid]

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How cna you be excited when the run pass ratio is completely screwed up? Or are you not seeing that?

Well, I haven't played enough games to see that in action. I suppose I'll see what folks are talking about when I have the chance to sit down for a couple of hours and play through my CCM.

The playcalling in my pre-season game looked fine, but again, that's a small sample size.

I can deal with a higher run percentage and more successful running better than I can deal with no CPU running game.

[skabatula]

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Does the player editing glitch happen if you edit your players outside of CCM, and then start a new CCM with the custom roster? (I understand you can't do this with generated rookies)

[JasonZimmerman]

Quick impression-
1) They tweaked the physics and the game plays much better, the RB's don't stumble to the ground upon contact with O-linemen anymore. There is still a reaction by the RB when making contact with one of his players but it's far less exaggerated.

2) It feels like they have also tweaked the blocking logic, I had three plays in one game where I noticed a RB or a WR going out of his way to pick up a missed defender. One of my WR's on a play action end around fake came back across the field after the fake hand off to pick up an edge rusher. I run some of these plays all the time and have never witnessed my players reacting like this in terms of picking up rushers.

3) Overall difficulty is definitely improved, played two games on All-Pro default and the computer scored three TD's on me. The Pat's passed the majority of the game while only rushing 14 times for 113 yards playing 11 minute Quarters.

4) The CPU run game is way more effective and as stated above the play calling logic does indeed seemed to be adjusted for the better.

5) Editing a roster and then starting a CCM works, Conventional Play calling can now be default in CCM, schemes can not only be changed but all changes save as well once leaving the menu.

6) The PS3 doing a hard restart when quitting M13 hasn't happened since I've DL'ed the patch.

7) I did notice a new cut scene after Sproles ran back a TD it panned to the group on the sideline and showed Colston making his way through the crowd to give Sproles a slap on the helmet.

8) I played on slow and lowered the threshold to 45 and there seemed to be a noticeable difference in the amount of momentum and speed in comparison to pre-patch.

A couple issues I have noticed:

1) The substitutions during preseason still makes absolutely no sense including the Kicker/Punter issue.

2) I'm not sure what I did but after scrolling through some menus and playing one game I went back into my depth chart and it had been completely auto adjusted and changed from the corrections I made. I'm still trying to figure out what triggered this.

3) In the player statistics overlay after a game, all players have the "C"aptain patch. (Not really a big deal)


I am going to wait until after my next game to tweak the sliders, from what I've observed so far it seems the CPU WR's drop to many balls and the Pass protection needs to be bumped up. The QB Accuracy slider for the User needs to be brought down. The games have been competitive overall especially in comparison to prepatch.

I have a offline CCM with the Bears. In the game I played yesterday Bears-Lions Monday night game. I played with the Bears in their 40's Trowbacks, every player EXCEPT the QB's of both teams had C patches. And they all had pink attire. I didn't save it, so today I played that game again, Bears in normal jerseys, No C patches no pink! Very strange.

[UC Bearcat]

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Does the player editing glitch happen if you edit your players outside of CCM, and then start a new CCM with the custom roster? (I understand you can't do this with generated rookies)

Custom rosters are screwed up too. Your edits don't show up in CCM and the player(s) equipment is all weird

[B_MYLES]

Re: Madden NFL 13 Title Update #3 Available Now, Post Your Impressions (360, PS3)

Made this game worth playing again. Kinda got tired of playing NCAA. So far no problems and thank God i was only 3 games through my first season.

Would have been nice if they would have let us Edit names and the ability to put a player anywhere on the field

[NYGNYY7251]

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Quick question on the players morphing into smaller guys when editing in CCM. Is it just OL and DL? Or is it every position?

[brandon27]

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Hoping there's going to be some news soon about a fix for Offline CCM depth charts not saving.

Loving the other things this patch has done, but I just can't for the life of me understand how they drop the ball on the depth chart issue.

I played a game last night, up 28-0 at halftime against the Titans, They passed the ball 21 times in the second half, compared to 9 runs. Seems pretty realistic to me as they tried to make the comback.

Just really wish I didnt have to reset my depth charts prior to every game.

[Sturzinator]

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Quick question on the players morphing into smaller guys when editing in CCM. Is it just OL and DL? Or is it every position?

I think it happens to everyone. It's just most noticeable when you do it to OL/DL due to relative body size.

So we have editing now, but if you use it it jacks everything up.

So .....we don't have editing.

Guess they'll need to patch the patch.