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  • Catamount53
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    • Jan 2007
    • 485

    #1

    Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

    When I took over at Memphis the season prior the team finished 0-12, 7 or so years later the past three years we played for a national championship, won the rose bowl, and won the fiesta bowl. Yet the best job offer I can get is offensive coordinator at Temple.

    Coaching carousel needs serious work. Its very frustrating that they add what could be a great feature to the game, but spend no time trying to make it better from one year to the next. I have never understood it.
  • GruffyMcGuiness
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    • Mar 2012
    • 1365

    #2
    Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

    Originally posted by Catamount53
    When I took over at Memphis the season prior the team finished 0-12, 7 or so years later the past three years we played for a national championship, won the rose bowl, and won the fiesta bowl. Yet the best job offer I can get is offensive coordinator at Temple.

    Coaching carousel needs serious work. Its very frustrating that they add what could be a great feature to the game, but spend no time trying to make it better from one year to the next. I have never understood it.
    In my 10 man OD, I won back to back NC's and a Rose Bowl with UCLA and some how, the best job I got was Baylor.

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    • PocketScout
      Recruiting App
      • Jun 2010
      • 1392

      #3
      Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

      This is a two part issue.

      1) The game lets coaches play out there contract and then decides if the meet their goals or not. This only allows a few schools a year to have openings. Before you advance to the next season go to the coaching security page and sort coaches by years left on there current contract. Look at the schools who's coaches are in their final year and those are your possible openings. Then look at the coaches job security, if it is above 50% he will probably get an extension and that job will not be on the board once you advance to the coaching carousel.

      You will not have USC, Notre Dame, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama and Oregon looking for coaches every season. Schools have to have openings before you can possibly move there. Most of the time I have noticed there are a couple marque jobs (traditional powers) that will hit the board ever few years. When these jobs do have openings you will need to have luck on your side to land one. This leads us to part two...

      2) Coaching Prestige is what determines which jobs you will be offered. You need to peak at the right time coaching prestige wise. Finishing the year you need to be on a decent winning streak, it is great to defeat a couple teams ranked higher than you to get the little coaching prestige bonus that goes along with it, you need to not have any failed goals and again hope that the other candidates have not been killing it all year long.

      I find the coaching carousel is not that hard but overall I think they could add a difficulty setting to it and go from there. Current form would be AA, a little harder would be Heisman, and easier versions would be Varsity and Freshman.
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      • tearyourshirt
        Rookie
        • Nov 2004
        • 100

        #4
        Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

        Check the job security menu for coaches in their last year that will more than likely get fired. Then, change your alma mater to the school you may want. More than likely, they'll hire you in the offseason.

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        • Aranor
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          • May 2011
          • 367

          #5
          Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

          Originally posted by tearyourshirt
          Check the job security menu for coaches in their last year that will more than likely get fired. Then, change your alma mater to the school you may want. More than likely, they'll hire you in the offseason.
          That's so sad. Based on alma mater over a good or even great record. So very sad and unrealistic.
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          • Wilson16NCSU
            Banned
            • May 2010
            • 674

            #6
            Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

            I was the OC at UL-Lafayette for one year, won the National Title and automatically got a job offer to be the head coach at South Carolina who was a top three team, so I haven't seen this problem yet.

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            • UATide
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              • Jun 2008
              • 953

              #7
              Originally posted by Wilson16NCSU
              I was the OC at UL-Lafayette for one year, won the National Title and automatically got a job offer to be the head coach at South Carolina who was a top three team, so I haven't seen this problem yet.
              Why did SC dump Spurrier if they were top 3?


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              • BenGerman
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                • Sep 2008
                • 2765

                #8
                Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

                Originally posted by UATide
                Why did SC dump Spurrier if they were top 3?


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                • fcboiler87
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 591

                  #9
                  Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

                  Originally posted by Wilson16NCSU
                  I was the OC at UL-Lafayette for one year, won the National Title and automatically got a job offer to be the head coach at South Carolina who was a top three team, so I haven't seen this problem yet.
                  This topic has been beaten to death on here but here I go..

                  The OP was the HC at Memphis (or at least that is how it is made out to be). This is where the problem stems from. It is easy to land a gig at a big school when you are a coordinator. It is nearly impossible as an HC because you cannot get a decent job while under contract. You have to have your contract expire and it has to line up with one of the big jobs opening up (and the odds of that aren't very good).

                  So for the 1,760,432nd time, the coaching carousel needs some serious attention. It did after the first year and it got none so my hopes aren't up too much for it. Of course they'll probably fix it and tout it as some great new feature again, knowing how EA works.

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                  • tearyourshirt
                    Rookie
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 100

                    #10
                    Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

                    Originally posted by Aranor
                    That's so sad. Based on alma mater over a good or even great record. So very sad and unrealistic.
                    Keep in mind your record still has to be good...its the only way i found around it...i just look at it like you're throwing your name into the job pool

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                    • Wilson16NCSU
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                      • May 2010
                      • 674

                      #11
                      Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

                      Originally posted by UATide
                      Why did SC dump Spurrier if they were top 3?


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                      I have no idea. It was in an OD and I wasn't able to get on when everyone else did so they just gave me South Carolina since it was the top open job. Im guessing Spurrier retired as the other guy said, but I walked into an amazing situation as far as talent already there and how the recruiting is.

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                      • thenameismj
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                        • Sep 2012
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                        #12
                        Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

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                        • Aranor
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                          • May 2011
                          • 367

                          #13
                          Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

                          I started at San Jose State University as head coach and have one two national championships. Only have 4 losses in 6 yrs and after many great yrs we have had great recruiting classes. But.....the best job offers for me are like OC jobs for Fresno state or Louisiana Monroe. A coach with a saban type career should have top tier head coach jobs, not OC for mediocre jobs because of another coaches alma mater.
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                          • RonNewman75
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 585

                            #14
                            Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

                            I like that it's hard to get a big job it makes it more rewarding when you do. The facts are its not every year the TOP programs are having a turn over in coaches hints why they are TOP programs.

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                            • Catamount53
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 485

                              #15
                              Re: Why is it so hard to get a big time HC job.

                              Top programs have had openings. I just haven't gotten offers which makes no sense. I think the issue is related to the teams prestige. Once you bring a small school above a certain prestige level it seems that bigger programs (or more so those that were once strong but now struggling) are less likely to offer you. There is no distinction between a historical power like Notre Dame and an upstart team like Cincinnati which would make leaving a good Cinci team for a struggling ND team a step down, when in reality it is a step up.

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