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  • JoshC1977
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    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #1

    Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

    A few weeks in the Madden forum, a thread was begun that discussed the impact of penalty sliders on gameplay in Madden 13. In short, it was postulated that the penalty sliders impacted the gameplay. It seems that the penalty slider doesn't so much impact how often a penalty is called as much as it affects how often certain actions occur on the field. These actions impact CPU behavior on the field.

    The link to that thread is as follows:
    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...-gameplay.html

    As you may have figured by now, I decided to apply the same principle to NCAA 13. Guess what, it works!

    For those of you interested in the set I am currently using, I am using Thumstyx's set:

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...3-sliders.html

    This set is a perfect blend of solid slider fixes as well as the incorporation of penalty slider concepts to make a tough but realistic challenge in NCAA 13.


    I am no longer playing with the older sets below, but have left them here if people want to try them out.....

    ---------Changes as of 11/22/2012-------------

    Level - Heisman
    Time - 8/9 minutes

    Speed - Slow (animations are better here)
    Threshold - 40 (players feel a bit more explosive here)
    Sliders - Default - THIS IS CRITICAL. THE FEEL OF THE GAME CHANGES DRAMATICALLY ONCE YOU START MESSING AROUND.
    Autosubs - default


    Penalty sliders
    Offsides - 100 (helps with block shedding, anything lower doesn't seem to work)
    False start - 1 (I haven't quite figured out why yet...but you still get a reasonable number of false starts at 1)
    Holding - 53 (lowered a tad)
    Facemask - 55 (gives a good number of calls)
    Offensive pass interference - 25 (this plays in concert with DPI)
    Defensive pass interference - 100 (speeds up how quickly receivers get into their routes...helpful with the offsides high and thus higher block shedding)
    KR/PR Interference - 0 (still tentative, but it seems to improve the ability of a defender to change direction.)
    Clipping - 33 (improves run blocking)
    Intentional grounding - 100 (smart QB play)
    Roughing passer - 54/55 (will get none at 54 and 4-5 per game at 55....your call)
    Roughing the kicker - 40 (This works well with threshold at 40. Defenders flow well to the ball but fast players can still escape. This works beautifully with spread offenses.)



    I am getting some very competitive games with this setup and they tend to be lower scoring affairs. I simply DO NOT have time to test this as I work 60+ hours per week. I would love to spend time on this, but need help from anyone interested. I only ask that people stick with default heisman sliders as changing ANYTHING has a dramatic impact on the gameplay.

    NO HOLDS BARRED SET - ADDED ON 12/09/12

    Note: You will get no holding calls with this set, but it dramatically improves line play.
    Level - Heisman
    Time - 8/9 minutes

    Speed - Slow (animations are better here)
    Threshold - 60 (research by Oraeon showed this was best, but I could never do it because of the line play....now I can)
    Sliders - Default - THIS IS CRITICAL. THE FEEL OF THE GAME CHANGES DRAMATICALLY ONCE YOU START MESSING AROUND.
    Autosubs - default


    Penalty sliders
    Offsides - 100 (critical for good line play)
    False start - 53
    Holding - 0
    (critical for good line play)
    Facemask - 45
    (lower number helps increase number of fumbles)
    Offensive pass interference - 50
    Defensive pass interference - 50
    KR/<acronym title="Page Ranking">PR</acronym> Interference - 50
    Clipping - 50

    Intentional grounding - 100 (smart QB play)
    Roughing passer - 54/55 (will get none at 54 and 4-5 per game at 55....your call)
    Roughing the kicker - 50
    Last edited by JoshC1977; 02-10-2013, 10:44 AM. Reason: Added reference to Thumstyx set
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  • JoshC1977
    All Star
    • Dec 2010
    • 11564

    #2
    Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

    Here are a couple of boxscores using these settings.

    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="7" align="center">Ohio Bobcats at Pittsburgh Panthers</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Oct 27, 2012</td><td align="right" width="8%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="8%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="8%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="8%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="8%">OT</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ohio Bobcats ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">-</td><td class="active" align="right">32</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Pittsburgh Panthers ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">-</td><td class="active" align="right">28</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%">
    </td><td align="center" width="20%">OHIO</td><td align="center" width="20%">PITT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">407</td><td align="center">450</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">34-76-1</td><td align="center">25-87-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">17-26-337</td><td align="center">24-33-363</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">16</td><td align="center">18</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">9</td><td align="center">16</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">114</td><td align="center">27</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">530</td><td align="center">493</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">5-13</td><td align="center">6-11</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">1-1</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">4-2-1</td><td align="center">2-1-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">4-35</td><td align="center">6-33</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">17:12</td><td align="center">14:48</td></tr></tbody></table>


    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="7" align="center">Ohio Bobcats at Hawaii Warriors</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Oct 27, 2012</td><td align="right" width="8%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="8%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="8%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="8%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="8%">OT</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ohio Bobcats ()</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">-</td><td class="active" align="right">17</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Hawaii Warriors ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">-</td><td class="active" align="right">34</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%">
    </td><td align="center" width="20%">OHIO</td><td align="center" width="20%">HAW</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">425</td><td align="center">429</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">34-138-0</td><td align="center">26-119-1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">14-28-287-2</td><td align="center">20-36-310-1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">18</td><td align="center">22</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">25</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">101</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">526</td><td align="center">454</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">3</td><td align="center">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">5-10</td><td align="center">3-11</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">3-1-1</td><td align="center">4-2-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">3-28</td><td align="center">7-66</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">15:08</td><td align="center">16:51</td></tr></tbody></table>

    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"><table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="7" align="center">Connecticut Huskies at Ohio Bobcats</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Oct 27, 2012</td><td align="right" width="8%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="8%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="8%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="8%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="8%">OT</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Connecticut Huskies ()</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">-</td><td class="active" align="right">17</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ohio Bobcats ()</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">-</td><td class="active" align="right">38</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%">
    </td><td align="center" width="20%">CONN</td><td align="center" width="20%">OHIO</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">277</td><td align="center">516</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">14-23-0</td><td align="center">44-228-3</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">17-27-2</td><td align="center">14-19-2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">12</td><td align="center">19</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">0</td><td align="center">9</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">27</td><td align="center">24</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">304</td><td align="center">549</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">2</td><td align="center">2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">1-7</td><td align="center">11-14</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">1-1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">3-2-1</td><td align="center">4-2-1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">3-35</td><td align="center">4-40</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">10:58</td><td align="center">21:02</td></tr></tbody></table>
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    • Sundown2600
      Brake less...Go Faster!
      • Jul 2009
      • 1362

      #3
      Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

      Bump. Very interested to hear more about this. Please don't stop your research. I will test this out ASAP.
      Last edited by Sundown2600; 10-29-2012, 02:33 AM.

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      • SonOfEd
        Pro
        • Dec 2010
        • 560

        #4
        Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

        I had read that thread in the Madden forum when it came out. I plugged some of those numbers into Madden 12 and saw the same results listed.
        I tried some of them in NCAA, prior to the most recent patch and didn't see the same effect. However, I've read that since this latest patch people are seeing these things now. Pretty pumped to check it out again!

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        • priam11
          Rookie
          • Oct 2012
          • 49

          #5
          Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

          I will keep an eye on this as well as I am curious to see what people see from this. I don't play on Heisman but rather Varsity as I use Fist's sliders as a base to avoid as much as possible the DB glitch.

          But still I will try these settings as I am interested in the Intentional Grounding one as I heard that if its really high, the QBs are making better decisions.

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          • JoshC1977
            All Star
            • Dec 2010
            • 11564

            #6
            Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

            Originally posted by priam11
            I will keep an eye on this as well as I am curious to see what people see from this. I don't play on Heisman but rather Varsity as I use Fist's sliders as a base to avoid as much as possible the DB glitch.

            But still I will try these settings as I am interested in the Intentional Grounding one as I heard that if its really high, the QBs are making better decisions.
            I would assume that the penalty sliders will impact all difficulty settings. So, you could certainly keep using Fists sliders with penalty slider adjustments.

            I'm glad to see there is at least some interest in this....I just wish I had more time to investigate. I just didn't want to keep this from the community; if this is correct, it can really help modify the gameplay.

            I will report in as I find more information and hopefully others will too....
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            • HighCmpPct
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              • Oct 2011
              • 3596

              #7
              Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

              Gonna try these with Mkharsh's AA set in a offline dynasty for a couple games really interested to see where this can go.

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              • HighCmpPct
                Denny 3K
                • Oct 2011
                • 3596

                #8
                Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                Gonna try these with Mkharsh's AA set in a offline dynasty for a couple games really interested to see where this can go.
                Weeeeeelllllllll heres a how it went:

                <html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Boise State Broncos at Michigan State Spartans</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Jan 1, </td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#21</span> Boise State Broncos (0-0)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">28</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td><span style="color:#CC0000;">#12</span> Michigan State Spartans (0-0)</td><td align="right">14</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">9</td><td align="right" class="active">33</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">BSU</td><td align="center" width="20%">MSU</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">370</td><td align="center">409</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">26</td><td align="center">120</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">344</td><td align="center">289</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">10</td><td align="center">16</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">10</td><td align="center">17</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">117</td><td align="center">41</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">497</td><td align="center">467</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1</td><td align="center">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">3-15</td><td align="center">7-18</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">2-4</td><td align="center">0-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0</td><td align="center">0-0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">2-0</td><td align="center">2-2</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">11-80</td><td align="center">9-75</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">13:50</td><td align="center">22:10</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#2D4492" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Boise State Broncos</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Joe Southwick</td><td align="right">23/49</td><td align="right">344</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>DJ Harper</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">30</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Drew Wright</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">3.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Matt Miller</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">143</td><td align="right">28.6</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Gabe Linehan</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">58</td><td align="right">14.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dan Paul</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">18</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Mitch Burroughs</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">11.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Geraldo Boldwijn</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">48</td><td align="right">16.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Dallas Burroughs</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">20.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kirby Moore</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">23.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jonathan Brown</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>JC Percy</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Demarcus Lawrence</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Samuel Ukwuachu</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Blake Renaud</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dan Goodale</td><td align="right">0/0</td><td align="right">4/4</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Matt Miller</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">69</td><td align="right">23.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#1C453A" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Michigan State Spartans</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Andrew Maxwell</td><td align="right">15/28</td><td align="right">289</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Le'veon Bell</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">86</td><td align="right">3.5</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Larry Caper</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">28</td><td align="right">2.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Bennie Fowler</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">75</td><td align="right">15.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Keith Mumphery</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">65</td><td align="right">16.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Andrew Gleichert</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">24</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Tony Lippett</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">42</td><td align="right">21.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Le'Veon Bell</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">78</td><td align="right">78.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Dion Sims</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Isaiah Lewis</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Dan Conroy</td><td align="right">4/4</td><td align="right">3/3</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">46</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

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                • HighCmpPct
                  Denny 3K
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 3596

                  #9
                  Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                  Forgot to mention I also edited both teams by lowering any rating that was 50 or higher on every player by 10 points.
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                  • Art01
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 684

                    #10
                    Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                    Originally posted by HighCmpPct
                    Forgot to mention I also edited both teams by lowering any rating that was 50 or higher on every player by 10 points.
                    THE GAME PLAYS GREAT WHEN YOU PLAY WITH THESE EXACT SETTINGS!!
                    Please explain your comment above: What game feature did you use to edit the teams ratings to below 50?
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                    • shawn fawbush
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 30

                      #11
                      Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                      Played a solid game using these penalty sliders with ceejay314's play sliders on all-american. My only concern was 5 roughing the passer penalties in the first have alone. Bumped it down a click for the second half and had none.

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                      • HighCmpPct
                        Denny 3K
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 3596

                        #12
                        Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                        Sorry I mean't to elaborate I edited the players ratings for each team.

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                        • Sundown2600
                          Brake less...Go Faster!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1362

                          #13
                          Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                          I tried this and saw a difference in how the game played. This only proves how hopelessly flawed and damaged EA's sliders are. All of them! From Body size sliders, to equipment sliders, to gameplay sliders. The code is all jacked and glitched up. If EA would just fix these sliders I would be so happy.

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                          • shawn fawbush
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 30

                            #14
                            Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                            Played another game with roughing passer down to 54 from 55 and no penalties called. Previous game at 55 I had 5 in first half so where do you go ? Did get 3-4 holding calls on each team which seems realistic as well as 3 facemask (total, 2and 1) penalties. No other type penalties called.

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                            • Buckeyed
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 433

                              #15
                              Re: Effects of Penalties on Gameplay

                              I used these with AA and sacks were out of control. Cincy vs Rutgers and I had 5 sacks mid way 1st qtr. Adjusted them but it still played odd. I use Very Slow so I can see all the animations. I did notice more diving catches and dropped INTs. The CPU INT against me was interesting. The LB speed burst through my TE and made the pick but then turned back toward my TE to get tackled.

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