[mkharsh33]

I share the slider frustration, and I'm also glad to know that when I stated a week ago that the art updates were screwing with the sliders that I wasn't just seeing things (even when some said I was crazy).

Also, I think something needs to be taken into account regarding the current rosters versus the old school rosters. The NBA was MUCH different 20+ years ago, so I don't see how anyone can develop a set of sliders for both current and historic rosters that are remotely the same. When working on 2K11 sliders I actually did a study of statistics from 1980 til now. I was amazed at the change of things around 1996 when scores DRASTICALLY lowered, where hardly any teams averaged above 100 PPG. (So when I use rosters from 1996 or later I lower the minutes played to 11 for the scoring adjustments). Just something I caught in the midst of this discussion...

But I've actually went back to playing 2K11 - and I just LOVE that game so much more than 2K13...