NBA 2K13 Video - Roster Update with Full List of Transactions Still Needed (11-17-12)

[Goffs]

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Since PS3 didn't get the roster update I'm guessing that the PC version didn't get it as well?

[Belly_of_a_Whale]

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Regarding all the Melo talk:

• He was overrated at 92. 89-90 seems perfectly reasonable for a great offensive player with less than average defense/block/steal abilities.
• 89 is basically a superstar.
• Iggy is overrated at 87, so he isn't a good comparison. However, Iggy's athletic/defensive abilities IRL are better than Melo's, which is why the gap isn't bigger.
• Yes, the Knicks are off to a great start, but it has as much to do with the unselfishness and depth of the roster, as it does with Melo. Melo's stats are right around what he has done in the past. If anything, JR Smith and Wallace (and maybe Prigioni) should see their overall spike a bit, but not Melo.
• All that said, I do believe Melo's mid range rating should be increased a couple points, but that's it.

[Gosens6]

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my point exactly.......

How is this your point? You're arguing that Melo should be rated higher, but when someone says even though his rating is an 89, he's still unstoppable, you agree and say that was your point?

I'm not even sure you know what you're arguing right now. Your blindly throwing all this crap out about ratings about players who play DIFFERENT positions.

Different ratings are rated differently based on the positions these guys play. You're really not making yourself look good here.

Drop the Melo argument. He plays amazing in the game, who cares if his rating is an 89? I feel like you're mad just because he's an elite player with a rating 1 point below a 90. Give me a break.

Also, you said he's a top 3 MVP candidate? We're 8 games into the season and you're throwing out MVP talk? What fantasy world do you live in? By your logic, Jamal Crawford should also be rated in the high 90s based solely on offensive output?

While we're at it, make JR Smith a 95..

Hell, give Paul Millsap a 99 three point rating because he's shooting 67% from the 3 this year. Just stop .

[Norris_Cole]

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Why was Lillard 3pt downgraded to a 75 (shooting 40% currently) And James Harden is still a 86 rated 3pt shooter (26%...)

Their 3pt ratings should be reversed...

[Blackhail92]

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Regarding all the Melo talk:

• He was overrated at 92. 89-90 seems perfectly reasonable for a great offensive player with less than average defense/block/steal abilities.
• 89 is basically a superstar.
• Iggy is overrated at 87, so he isn't a good comparison. However, Iggy's athletic/defensive abilities IRL are better than Melo's, which is why the gap isn't bigger.
• Yes, the Knicks are off to a great start, but it has as much to do with the unselfishness and depth of the roster, as it does with Melo. Melo's stats are right around what he has done in the past. If anything, JR Smith and Wallace (and maybe Prigioni) should see their overall spike a bit, but not Melo.
• All that said, I do believe Melo's mid range rating should be increased a couple points, but that's it.

I agree with this. his mid range is an 84 already. i also think it could go up a few points but people might accuse me of being too picky o well. considering Bayless midrange is a 90. Blakes is a 80 i believe as well. Another thing is that while OVR ratings dont mean much. When it ranks players it ranks them by overall stats. Therefore according to that. Deron Williams is a better player than Carmelo Anthony. I think that is ridicolous. While deron williams is good(my second fav player) he is not better than melo and had an even worse season then melo did while melo was playing with nagging injuries the whole season and yet D will gets an upgrade. but melo does not. 89 maybe the right rating for melo but like it was said before, this just shows a lot fo other players are Overated. I just took the easier rout of saying Melo is Underated rather than nit picking at every overated player

[Blackhail92]

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How is this your point? You're arguing that Melo should be rated higher, but when someone says even though his rating is an 89, he's still unstoppable, you agree and say that was your point?

I'm not even sure you know what you're arguing right now. Your blindly throwing all this crap out about ratings about players who play DIFFERENT positions.

Different ratings are rated differently based on the positions these guys play. You're really not making yourself look good here.

Drop the Melo argument. He plays amazing in the game, who cares if his rating is an 89? I feel like you're mad just because he's an elite player with a rating 1 point below a 90. Give me a break.

Also, you said he's a top 3 MVP candidate? We're 8 games into the season and you're throwing out MVP talk? What fantasy world do you live in? By your logic, Jamal Crawford should also be rated in the high 90s based solely on offensive output?

While we're at it, make JR Smith a 95..

Hell, give Paul Millsap a 99 three point rating because he's shooting 67% from the 3 this year. Just stop .

my point was that in his statement he said "Yeah Melo is almost unstoppable in this game. Not Rudy Gay unstoppable" the fact that Melo is being considered almost unstopable and rudy gay is considered unstopable. is my point that melo is underated. or that rudy is overated whichever you want. i guess i missed you with that one..... And you are saying it has only been 8 games why should melo be increased? Harden was raised after 4 games. but while his shooting from 3 is 20 something percent through 8 games. his 3 is still an 86. sooo what is your point sir?

[Gosens6]

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my point was that in his statement he said "Yeah Melo is almost unstoppable in this game. Not Rudy Gay unstoppable" the fact that Melo is being considered almost unstopable and rudy gay is considered unstopable. is my point that melo is underated. or that rudy is overated whichever you want. i guess i missed you with that one..... And you are saying it has only been 8 games why should melo be increased? Harden was raised after 4 games. but while his shooting from 3 is 20 something percent through 8 games. his 3 is still an 86. sooo what is your point sir?

My point is Melo doesn't need an increase. I feel like you just NEED to see him above a 90 to validate something.

I'll agree with you on the James Harden front, but imagine the backlash from the casual gamers if Harden didn't receive a ratings boost?

It's usually a lose-lose situation when it comes to us and 2K. They're all about "who's hot" right now, to appease to the casual gamers.

Melo doesn't need a raise, it's not only him who's playing exceptional, it's the entire Knicks team, which is the reason for their success.

[Blackhail92]

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My point is Melo doesn't need an increase. I feel like you just NEED to see him above a 90 to validate something.

I'll agree with you on the James Harden front, but imagine the backlash from the casual gamers if Harden didn't receive a ratings boost?

It's usually a lose-lose situation when it comes to us and 2K. They're all about "who's hot" right now, to appease to the casual gamers.

Melo doesn't need a raise, it's not only him who's playing exceptional, it's the entire Knicks team, which is the reason for their success.

I understand that. And i somewhat agree. But what i said was that if melo's rating is an 89. and that is what he deserves to you. and others. then thats fine. but that to me means players such as rudy gay, Andre Igoudala, should have lower ratings because we can all agree melo is miles ahead of those two? right?

[Gosens6]

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I understand that. And i somewhat agree. But what i said was that if melo's rating is an 89. and that is what he deserves to you. and others. then thats fine. but that to me means players such as rudy gay, Andre Igoudala, should have lower ratings because we can all agree melo is miles ahead of those two? right?

Offensively, yes. He's one of the best triple threat players in the NBA.

But iv'e always believed his rating isn't higher because I don't even think he can spell defense.

Although i'll give him credit, this year he's TRYING to work on his defensive game and rebounding. If he can become a consistent defensive player and rebounder, I gurantee his rating will increase.

[Blackhail92]

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and that since the ratings of Rudy Gay and Igoudala are not going to go down. melo should be increased. Also you are right about the Knicks as a whole playing well but if i remember correctly when D rose won MVP he was playing very well. but not better than lebron. But he won MVP because of his TEAM's success. Now do you think if his team wasnt doing well he would be rated a 92? No because if a player plays well and his team is losing then he is still rated lower in the 2k system. therefore the knicks are off to a great start. Can melo get some credit considering he is the leader(or one of them) of the team. and he is actually SHOWING leadership

[Azamien]

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Since PS3 didn't get the roster update I'm guessing that the PC version didn't get it as well?

As of about 20 minutes ago, no, PC doesn't have the update.

[Gosens6]

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and that since the ratings of Rudy Gay and Igoudala are not going to go down. melo should be increased. Also you are right about the Knicks as a whole playing well but if i remember correctly when D rose won MVP he was playing very well. but not better than lebron. But he won MVP because of his TEAM's success. Now do you think if his team wasnt doing well he would be rated a 92? No because if a player plays well and his team is losing then he is still rated lower in the 2k system. therefore the knicks are off to a great start. Can melo get some credit considering he is the leader(or one of them) of the team. and he is actually SHOWING leadership

Check it, I can give Melo credit for what he and the Knicks are doing this year. It seems like he's FINALLY figuring out that one man can't win a championship.

But like I said, he's not going to just get an increase because his team is winning, it's just not going to happen. Like I said, let him play consistent defense and rebound effectively, then I gurantee he'll be in the high 90s overall wise.

Right now, for just having outstanding offensive ratings, his overall is pretty fantastic if you ask me. Couple that with his signature skills, and he plays like Melo does in real life.

[SteboSSK]

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Why do guys continue to come in these threads and argue about ratings? Especially the minimal differences. Arguing that Melo should be a 92 over 89 is almost splitting hairs. Playing with the 89 Melo would probably have very little difference if any. Alot of what Melo isnt has to be overrated to even get him a 90s rating anyway. We are talking about a player that isnt even an average defender or offensive playmaker. Melo is great at one thing, ISO ball and spot up shooting. Other than that why are we arguing that he should have ratings close to CP3, Durant, Dwight and Kobe.

Even then who cares.

[concolt]

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Who gives a flip about Melo? Six pages of Melo crap. People are still able to abuse him online. Bumping him from 89 to 92 doesn't matter. He will still play the same.

[Blackhail92]

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Check it, I can give Melo credit for what he and the Knicks are doing this year. It seems like he's FINALLY figuring out that one man can't win a championship.

But like I said, he's not going to just get an increase because his team is winning, it's just not going to happen. Like I said, let him play consistent defense and rebound effectively, then I gurantee he'll be in the high 90s overall wise.

Right now, for just having outstanding offensive ratings, his overall is pretty fantastic if you ask me. Couple that with his signature skills, and he plays like Melo does in real life.

But if you watched melo after Mike woodson came. His defense has greatly improved. From then, to the Olympics, to now his defense is much better than before. Still not an elite defender in ANY way. but he has improved. If i recall 2k12 even noticed and raised him back to a 90 and his defense increased in one update at the end of last season. But at the start of 2k12 he was rated a 91 and he played terrible defense at the start of 2k12. But i do agree with you. if melo does keep it up and his team keeps winning he willl be raised without question. especially if he can get his fg percentage up and take less jumpers.