Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

[nomo17k]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

Since no commentary system would meet our high expectations anyways, why not try something very experimental? Perhaps matching Vin Scully with Erin Andrews... now THAT's very weird...

Who knows it might actually make us realize a *whole new ways* of enjoying baseball commentary...

[Bobhead]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

I don't think our expectations are that high at all. Other games have already done it. NBA 2k's commentary features most of what people have been asking for... chemistry between commentators. More analysis and fewer random one-liners, etc...

Anyway it doesn't matter to me who they have in the booth. The problem has always been the delivery, not the voice

[Tommyklaid]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

I don't think our expectations are that high at all. Other games have already done it. NBA 2k's commentary features most of what people have been asking for... chemistry between commentators. More analysis and fewer random one-liners, etc...

Anyway it doesn't matter to me who they have in the booth. The problem has always been the delivery, not the voice

Well said sir...my thoughts EXACTLY!

[kaptainkarl76]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

Thank God commentary is getting some new life...

Just get Matt to stop saying "thus far" every two lines and we'll be cool...

[BlueSkies7776]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

I don't think our expectations are that high at all. Other games have already done it. NBA 2k's commentary features most of what people have been asking for... chemistry between commentators. More analysis and fewer random one-liners, etc...

Anyway it doesn't matter to me who they have in the booth. The problem has always been the delivery, not the voice

It's not only the delivery but the god awful writing/scripting. Yesterday I was playing 12 The Show and my starting pitcher hit a rough patch in the 4th inning. Dave Campbell proceeds to say "And he seems to be struggling in this half of the 4th inning". I was like "No ****!"

The commentary in this is series is never intelligent, well spoken, interesting, amusing, or enjoyable to listen to. They need to fire who ever is in control of this aspect of the game and rebuild the whole commentary track.

[Jibbler]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

Im a bit worried because look what happened to madden when they changed the commontary the entire game got erased and it was back to a limited game like madden 1993 I hope they keep everyone in the game like 30 team control and editing

[Blzer]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

Dave Campbell proceeds to say "And he seems to be struggling in this half of the 4th inning".

Ah yes, the infamous "And" that has bugged me for years.

I know I've said it before, but it's worth saying with every new commentator we get: Ditch the "And" at the beginning of sentences. That's it, and that's all. Don't even have to re-record anything... just clip it out. It doesn't sound right.

[zippy2212]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

My biggest pet peave is the check swing commentary when Matt V. Says "a check down to first to see if he held up, yes he went around" Just change the yes to no.

[Jibbler]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

a few things I hate is the generic things, I hate when a player is injured and they say 'oh we said before the game he was gonna play with it' what a load of crap!! it would be alright if it was a player that i risked to play out there and that happened.

and how many times have you heard them talk about the result the night before the the result is compeltely wrong LOL oh they had a loss 6-4 last night. emmm no it was 8-6

They also don't talk enough about the pitchers and the season that they are having like the batters. It's just a gerneric thing at the start 'oh he can be good if he doesn't throw a lot of pitchers etc' talk about the season he is having

when they come out to bat, the problem is they base their talk off the AVG if he is having a good season there is never any talk about thier OBP which is more important then average heading into to much fantasy crap with those stats like RBIS and AVG Saves etc very overrated stats unless your into fantasy Oh he is struggling with only hitting in the 220s, yeah forget about that his OBP is at 350 have a look at guys like Pena

[Geolink]

Re: Steve Lyons replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show!

Well it's about damn time!!!

[WarningTrackPower]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

Hopefully we get a revamped commentary this year. I'm not one who gets annoyed with someone's voice or repetitive lines. For me, I get annoyed with the lack of "flow," berating of a batter's wild swing, and pitch speculation.

Lack of flow - this is self explanatory as its been mentioned several times in this thread already. SCEA has replaced Rex and Dave with Karros and Lyons respectively. Hopefully this is their next step toward completely revamping the script for this game. I feel like Eric Karros doesn't fit into this game at all. His lines seem to go on and on and then he stays silent for a long period of time. I'm hoping that Steve's script can bring Karros more into the booth and help the lack of flow between the three.

Berating comments - Off-speed pitches are extremely hard to pick up when they're low in the zone and bounce in the dirt. I don't strike out a ton but I do have a few wild swings per game and then I have to listen to Soup talk about how awful my swing was. It makes me want to snap my controller in half. I've switched to music mode because of comments like this. I'm hoping that SCEA doesn't bother putting any lines like this into the game when Lyons is recording his lines. How about talking about how deceptive the pitch was instead?

Pitch speculation - I hate this. I play with guess pitch turned off and I have my own approach while hitting. The last thing I want to hear is Karros or Campbell speculate what pitch might be next. I'd rather not have another pitch put into the back of my head. Worst part is that they're usually wrong. I don't care if the commentary talks about pitching or pitch sequence, but please do not have them speculate what pitch might be next.

[Bobhead]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

I like the "pitch sequence/strikeout analyses" that are currently in the game, and would really like to see more of those. Maybe one for a bunch of fastballs followed by a breaking ball strikeout, or whatever else.

At the start of a random inning, they could review random strikeouts so far, especially if the pitcher is "dealing.

What I noticed the other day playing NBA 2k12 is that the biggest issue stems from the fact that almost every 'trigger' The Show uses is for a very specific situation or event. NBA uses more generic triggers. For example, in The Show, the execution of a pitch triggers a specific line like 90% of the time. The problem with this approach is that a) There are a lot of pitches in a baseball game and b) individual pitches are simply not that important, and seldom need any sort of commentary or explanation.

Instead, have lines triggered by a sequence of pitches, a sequence of batters, consecutive 1,2,3 innings, high number of GIDP, or just completely random lines that talk about the game thus far, and are randomly triggered at the start of an inning. There's already a few lines like this, but this is the type of thing that needs some more attention.

[Unit303]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

I have said it before but that Fielder 'Daddy' line is completely and utterly obnoxious.

[ill23matic]

Re: Steve Lyons Replacing Dave Campbell in MLB 13 The Show

Steve Lyons is annoying and narcissistic. No thanks

[brobro]

Need to add Vin Scully also for dodgers games, and Michael Kay for yankees games and so on. The specific commentary would be awesome.