Why People Complain About Online Threes

[JazzMan]

I just played a guy who had the Clippers and literally played 1-3-1 the ENTIRE game. No matter how many 3's I made, he'd stay in the 1-3-1. I'm sure he's one of the people that complain about how 3's are too easy to make. Well when you have a 3 shooting team, like the Knicks, and leave shooters wide open in the corner, you're going to lose. I just kind of wanted to show somebody this outrageous game, I wish I had a way to record it.

[demfl]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

To be fair your opponent didn't know how to use the 1-3-1, you can shutdown 3s even in that set.

[JazzMan]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

To be fair your opponent didn't know how to use the 1-3-1, you can shutdown 3s even in that set.

But still, it's fairly easy to beat a 1-3-1. Just space the floor, take your time, get some dribble penetration, and use your center to relay the ball to the corner for an open 3.

[demfl]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

But still, it's fairly easy to beat a 1-3-1. Just space the floor, take your time, get some dribble penetration, and use your center to relay the ball to the corner for an open 3.

I agree if the person running it is a casual player of 2k. Those player like myself who know how to run it, its hard for people to shoot, drive or run plays. The 1-3-1 is overpowered when properly utilized.

[LoudMouthHoops]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

So....everyone who thinks too many 3's are going in is playing 1-3-1?

I'm sorry but this is idiotic and stupid....sorry to use those words, but there is no other way to describe it.

I play man-to-man and see 3's going in at a completely unrealistic rate. With Carmelo hitting 3's from halfway between the 3-pt line and halfcourt.

Sorry but most of you who try to rationalize this don't have a clue...you're mostly cheesers just like the rest of the lot.

[JazzMan]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

So....everyone who thinks too many 3's are going in is playing 1-3-1?

I'm sorry but this is idiotic and stupid....sorry to use those words, but there is no other way to describe it.

I play man-to-man and see 3's going in at a completely unrealistic rate. With Carmelo hitting 3's from halfway between the 3-pt line and halfcourt.

Sorry but most of you who try to rationalize this don't have a clue...you're mostly cheesers just like the rest of the lot.

Have you played online recently? The 3's are actually tolerable. As long as you get a hand in their face, you should be fine.

I'm not saying that all guys who complain about how easy 3's are play 1-3-1, as I have seen some unrealistic shots go down and I play man.

I think the 3's are perfect right now. If you're open, you'll knock them down 45-50% of the time. If contested, the risk of a miss increases greatly.

My point is that guys try to cheese with the 1-3-1, and then complain about 3's going in at a high rate, even though the shots were wide open in the corner from great shooters.

[Dash2112]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

Have you played online recently? The 3's are actually tolerable. As long as you get a hand in their face, you should be fine.

I'm not saying that all guys who complain about how easy 3's are play 1-3-1, as I have seen some unrealistic shots go down and I play man.

I think the 3's are perfect right now. If you're open, you'll knock them down 45-50% of the time. If contested, the risk of a miss increases greatly.

My point is that guys try to cheese with the 1-3-1, and then complain about 3's going in at a high rate, even though the shots were wide open in the corner from great shooters.

Tolerable my ***! I played a game today where a kid did absolutely nothing but shoot 3's with me in his face. He hit way more than anyone should have. My lineup was Derek Harper, Ronnie Brewer, Luol Deng, Kevin Durant and Olajuwon so clearly my defense was not a problem.

[AiRJorDan23]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

People complain because...

1.Three's are now too easy online.
2.You can hit 60% of your three's with ease.

Oh and 2k claims to be the "#1 Selling Simulation Game", yet they seemed to cater casual users in 2k12 & 2k13.


If it was up to me they should have kept it the way it was before this new patch, then fix them glitches (such as the euro-step 3, which ppl are complaining about also), and boost up the cpu defense such a contesting shots, paint contact etc.

[LoudMouthHoops]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

Have you played online recently? The 3's are actually tolerable. As long as you get a hand in their face, you should be fine.

I'm not saying that all guys who complain about how easy 3's are play 1-3-1, as I have seen some unrealistic shots go down and I play man.

I think the 3's are perfect right now. If you're open, you'll knock them down 45-50% of the time. If contested, the risk of a miss increases greatly.

My point is that guys try to cheese with the 1-3-1, and then complain about 3's going in at a high rate, even though the shots were wide open in the corner from great shooters.

Yes, I have....and since the change back to these settings, I think the game is GARBAGE.

The defense is garbage, the defensive AI is trash, and most of the time the game looks like a bunch of idiots sprinting around into each other.

The settings they switched to before Xmas were MUCH better, except the 3-point shooting was a little off.

So just ADJUST the 3-pt shooting, right???

NOPE.

2K resets to the old settings....and everyone rejoices!!!!

That's because the way this game is now about 90% of the people who play it are CHEESERS.....but they all THINK they are SIM players and call themselves SIM players...and even believe what they do is SIM because they dribble down the court, SPRINT to the block and throw a pass to a 3-pt shooter.

They don't run any sets, plays, or even pick-n-roll or pick-n-pop....they rarely make more than 1 pass in a halfcourt set....they throw alley oops constantly....they don't use the triple threat moves....etc, etc.....

Basically they run around and wait for an inch of space to launch a 3, dribble right at a defender and than lead pass cheese for a layup, sprint around until they can trigger a dunk animation...and just heave the ball down the court to FLICK up a wing jumper with someone with a quick release like Melo....oh and they generally catch all inbounds passes after a made basket at HALF COURT!


The more DIFFICULT settings 2K switched to prevented much of this CHEESE.

- Lead pass cheese passes were swatted and didn't just whizz past or THRU defenders like they were INVISIBLE.

- Dunk animations were harder to trigger because on-ball defense was much BETTER.

- Heaving the ball down the court resulted in bad passes or bobbles....not just some of the time, but most of the time. Now it's only occasionally.

- Alley oops were risky plays to attempt, especially in a crowd or with a bad passer. Defenders who saw them could jump and bat the ball down....or some passes went out of bounds or resulted in misses. Now they are autoamtic and UNSTOPPABLE again.


The more difficult settings made out of control SPAZZ-ketball, as I call it, something that you didn't want to do in this game because you would SUFFER playing that way.

With these ROOKIE or PRO settings, that type of out of control, idiotic gamplay is REWARDED!


But 3's were hard to make....probably a little too hard....so now we have to SUFFER and deal with this mess of a game.

Sorry, but what most of the people who play this game are so accustomed to playing games like COD that move at lightning speed with constant action, that they play this game the SAME way...and don't even realize it.

What results is SPAZZ-ketball....which looks like a 5-on-5 version of NBA Jam....and 2K actually promotes this gameplay by DUMBING DOWN the online settings.

It's a joke.

But 3-pt shooting is kind of okay....so everything is fine.

[AllStarDaDon]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

Yes, I have....and since the change back to these settings, I think the game is GARBAGE.

The defense is garbage, the defensive AI is trash, and most of the time the game looks like a bunch of idiots sprinting around into each other.

The settings they switched to before Xmas were MUCH better, except the 3-point shooting was a little off.

So just ADJUST the 3-pt shooting, right???

NOPE.

2K resets to the old settings....and everyone rejoices!!!!

That's because the way this game is now about 90% of the people who play it are CHEESERS.....but they all THINK they are SIM players and call themselves SIM players...and even believe what they do is SIM because they dribble down the court, SPRINT to the block and throw a pass to a 3-pt shooter.

They don't run any sets, plays, or even pick-n-roll or pick-n-pop....they rarely make more than 1 pass in a halfcourt set....they throw alley oops constantly....they don't use the triple threat moves....etc, etc.....

Basically they run around and wait for an inch of space to launch a 3, dribble right at a defender and than lead pass cheese for a layup, sprint around until they can trigger a dunk animation...and just heave the ball down the court to FLICK up a wing jumper with someone with a quick release like Melo....oh and they generally catch all inbounds passes after a made basket at HALF COURT!


The more DIFFICULT settings 2K switched to prevented much of this CHEESE.

- Lead pass cheese passes were swatted and didn't just whizz past or THRU defenders like they were INVISIBLE.

- Dunk animations were harder to trigger because on-ball defense was much BETTER.

- Heaving the ball down the court resulted in bad passes or bobbles....not just some of the time, but most of the time. Now it's only occasionally.


The more difficult settings made out of control SPAZZ-ketball, as I call it, something that you didn't want to do in this game because you would SUFFER playing that way.

With these ROOKIE or PRO settings, that type of out of control, idiotic gamplay is REWARDED!


But 3's were hard to make....probably a little too hard....so now we have to SUFFER and deal with this mess of a game.

Sorry, but what most of the people who play this game are so accustomed to playing games like COD that move at lightning speed with constant action, that they play this game the SAME way...and don't even realize it.

What results is SPAZZ-ketball....which looks like a 5-on-5 version of NBA Jam....and 2K actually promotes this gameplay by DUMBING DOWN the online settings.

It's a joke.

But 3-pt shooting is kind of okay....so everything is fine.

Saying the game is garbage is a complete joke.

The game is fine of course it has flaws but what doesn't have flaws in life? When you play people that actually knows what there doing the game shines.

People really don't understand how good this game is. How just simple fundamentals, basketball knowledge means so much in this game. SMH it's sad people don't recognize this game for what it really is.

[LoudMouthHoops]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

Saying the game is garbage is a complete joke.

The game is fine of course it has flaws but what doesn't have flaws in life? When you play people that actually knows what there doing the game shines.

People really don't understand how good this game is. How just simple fundamentals, basketball knowledge means so much in this game. SMH it's sad people don't recognize this game for what it really is.

You are talking apples and oranges...

The game CAN be great....but not at the settings you are forced to play at online and in MyTeam. Nope....sorry.

Don't try and tell me I don't like the game because I don't know "basketball fundamentals"....that's garbage. I'll put my basketball resume' up against just about anyone who plays this game...

The fundamentals and knowledge means NOTHING when 90% of the people who play this game online stick mostly to abusing EXPLOITS, glitches, and CHEESE.

Before the switch back to these DUMBED DOWN settings....you were almost FORCED to play smart and know some basketball.

Sorry, but with the switch back to the old settings(just because of a glitch in 3-pt efficiency) this game now ENCOURAGES SPAZZ-ketball tactics and CHEESE.

It does this by allowing these tactics and playing style to be more EFFECTIVE than playing the game in a smart, sim style.

As long as those methods are EASIER and more effective than playing the game the right way - that is how most people will play.

There is no reward for slowing down and actually trying to play something that resembles real basketball.

And as long as the settings don't encourage people to play that way....they WON'T.

Simple as that....

[DGMikeBarker]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

I believe if you play better defense you can stop these "cheese" strategist. If you can counter it, it's not an exploit/cheese. I used the 3-2 contesting shots with the point man and shut my opponents down a few games.

[JazzMan]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

Yes, I have....and since the change back to these settings, I think the game is GARBAGE.

The defense is garbage, the defensive AI is trash, and most of the time the game looks like a bunch of idiots sprinting around into each other.

The settings they switched to before Xmas were MUCH better, except the 3-point shooting was a little off.

So just ADJUST the 3-pt shooting, right???

NOPE.

2K resets to the old settings....and everyone rejoices!!!!

That's because the way this game is now about 90% of the people who play it are CHEESERS.....but they all THINK they are SIM players and call themselves SIM players...and even believe what they do is SIM because they dribble down the court, SPRINT to the block and throw a pass to a 3-pt shooter.

They don't run any sets, plays, or even pick-n-roll or pick-n-pop....they rarely make more than 1 pass in a halfcourt set....they throw alley oops constantly....they don't use the triple threat moves....etc, etc.....

Basically they run around and wait for an inch of space to launch a 3, dribble right at a defender and than lead pass cheese for a layup, sprint around until they can trigger a dunk animation...and just heave the ball down the court to FLICK up a wing jumper with someone with a quick release like Melo....oh and they generally catch all inbounds passes after a made basket at HALF COURT!


The more DIFFICULT settings 2K switched to prevented much of this CHEESE.

- Lead pass cheese passes were swatted and didn't just whizz past or THRU defenders like they were INVISIBLE.

- Dunk animations were harder to trigger because on-ball defense was much BETTER.

- Heaving the ball down the court resulted in bad passes or bobbles....not just some of the time, but most of the time. Now it's only occasionally.

- Alley oops were risky plays to attempt, especially in a crowd or with a bad passer. Defenders who saw them could jump and bat the ball down....or some passes went out of bounds or resulted in misses. Now they are autoamtic and UNSTOPPABLE again.


The more difficult settings made out of control SPAZZ-ketball, as I call it, something that you didn't want to do in this game because you would SUFFER playing that way.

With these ROOKIE or PRO settings, that type of out of control, idiotic gamplay is REWARDED!


But 3's were hard to make....probably a little too hard....so now we have to SUFFER and deal with this mess of a game.

Sorry, but what most of the people who play this game are so accustomed to playing games like COD that move at lightning speed with constant action, that they play this game the SAME way...and don't even realize it.

What results is SPAZZ-ketball....which looks like a 5-on-5 version of NBA Jam....and 2K actually promotes this gameplay by DUMBING DOWN the online settings.

It's a joke.

But 3-pt shooting is kind of okay....so everything is fine.

I agree with you for the most part. The settings they had before Xmas were nearly perfect, except shooting 3's was almost suicide for your team. I play using sets. My main team is my favorite team in the league, the Utah Jazz, and I work the ball down low to Jefferson, Millsap, Favors, and Kanter and work from the inside out.

But when a guy uses 1-3-1 against me, I can't post up. I can't run plays. I can't run the pick and roll/pick and pop. The only solution is a drive and kick to a wide open shooter. So when they brought down the 3's, people would just play zone the entire game, much like this guy did. Except now, I can punish them for it.

I just wish they'd revert back to the settings before Xmas, but keep the 3's the same.

[DarthLeon]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

The only thing I consistently have an issue with is the really long passes. It looks like my defender should have an easy time picking those passes off, yet the rarely do. And when my guy misses, my opponent now has a wide open lane to the basket. I find that far more annoying than the 3's.

[JazzMan]

Re: Why People Complain About Online Threes

The only thing I consistently have an issue with is the really long passes. It looks like my defender should have an easy time picking those passes off, yet the rarely do. And when my guy misses, my opponent now has a wide open lane to the basket. I find that far more annoying than the 3's.

Agreed. There's hardly anything stopping 10 year-olds from chucking the ball down the court for an easy lay-up from some BS superstar, like Lebron or KD.

It pisses me off how so many people complain about 3's, when there are worse things in the game.