Premiere League Championship... How is it decided?

[thbends]

So there is no real "Championship Game" in the Premiere League? If you are at the top of the list you win automatically?

That is kind of a bummer. No playoffs or anything?

[Edi286]

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Yep that's exactly right

In many football/soccer leagues around the world the top team in the standings at the end of the season is declared the winner of league.

Its not like American sports, or international sports that have playoffs at the end of the regular season to decide the championship.

[Zangash]

Re: Premiere League Championship... How is it decided?

So there is no real "Championship Game" in the Premiere League? If you are at the top of the list you win automatically?

That is kind of a bummer. No playoffs or anything?

Playoffs? Dude, the playoffs are called the champions league. Getting a top spot in your country's league qualifies you for it. Exactly the same as the NFL, just with bigger divisions...

[coach422001]

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It's really fair when you think about it: every team plays every other team in the league twice, once home, once away. Whoever's ahead at the end of that marathon wins.

[Gnemi]

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Yeah, while there are no playoffs, that means nothing because the footballing model of the world is FAR deeper than what Americans are doing with the playoff system.

First of all, there are two domestic cups, one of which still garners (mostly) full strength squads. Then, there's the Champions League, which is 1,000,000 times more exciting and passionate than the "playoffs".

[Bellsprout]

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So there is no real "Championship Game" in the Premiere League? If you are at the top of the list you win automatically?

That is kind of a bummer. No playoffs or anything?

Watch this and then tell me that format sucks.

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[Suntan Superman]

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Yeah, that was pretty much one of the most exciting days in my lifetime, and I'm not a United *****, or a City fan. You gotta love that stuff though.

[Broncos86]

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THAT is why I wish I had the big leagues on TV where I live (Colorado). I watch what I can on ESPN3 streamed. The games are just huge.

I'm a huge hockey fan, and soccer just plays right into it. I don't really know the teams right now, but I'm learning. I've been playing as Liverpool in FIFA 13, getting to know them. I think the format is pretty darn cool.

[_ChicoBass]

That is kind of a bummer. No playoffs or anything?

DUDE seriously?!?! The playoffs could be considered one of the worst things to happen to football! I'm Mexican-American, and I follow the Liga MX, and I HATE the playoff format. Instead of the teams fighting to be the best of the best they're just fighting to be in 8th place or higher so they can qualify for the playoffs. Because of this the games don't get intense until the last couple matches! And what does the #1 team get? NOTHING. Just the advantage of playing against the #8 team in the first round of playoffs. The European league matches are played with heart year round. Not just the last game of the season when they notice they won't qualify for the playoffs unless they win/tie. SMH

[thbends]

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I didn't say it sucks. I just asked if it was true.

Do I like it? No. It's not the American way of doing things. We like the underdog. We like to see teams rise up and defeat a "better" team.

If that were the case here then the year the Giants beat the undefeated Patriots in the Super Bowl the game would have never happened. The Cowboys were the best team in the NFC that year and lost to the Giants too.

The Texas Rangers would be two time World Series Champs.

Hockey ALWAYS has someone rise up.

We see the BCS as the worst invention in the world. That still allows two teams to play for the Championship though.

I'm cool with it being that way. I'm enjoying playing FIFA but I would be lying if I said I was not a bit disappointed. I was looking forward to a end of year World Cup type tournament or something. Guess that does not exist.

I understand the argument that it makes it more exciting for the entire season but that is what college football claims... and that system is changing because it is flawed.

So does everyone play the exact same schedule then? You would have to if the entire Championship is decided on a points system otherwise it would not be fair.

Obviously soccer fans enjoy a good tournament. The World Cup is AWESOME. Why not end the year with the top teams playing in a smaller format tournament? Then the excitement of the "Last Day" would last weeks.

[Broncos86]

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The more games you add, the less each individual game means. Baseball is a prime example. The only excitement is towards the end of the year. As much as I love hockey, it can feel the same way. The BCS IS flawed because it's all determined by a wonky ranking system instead of your record.

I think the Premiere League is a fascinating format. The idea that you can be bumped out of it and replaced is a truly intriguing prospect to me. Imagine such a concept in the NFL, NHL, NBA, or MLB? None of this "Suck for Luck" kind of nonsense. If you don't perform, you get bumped down a division. Imagine a team in the NHL finishing last and getting bumped down to the AHL while the best AHL team came up? That'd give even last place teams a reason to play hard until the end.

It's different, and that alone makes it very interesting for me. New dynamics to the whole thing. If it were just a playoff system, it'd be ho-hum. But the fact that you can get bumped out? You're paying attention the whole year to what's going on. The system awards the best team of the year.

[gerg1234]

Agreed Broncos. I remember watching Wolves celebrate like they won the championship when they beat relegation on the last day of the season a few years ago.

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[thbends]

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The more games you add, the less each individual game means. Baseball is a prime example. The only excitement is towards the end of the year. As much as I love hockey, it can feel the same way. The BCS IS flawed because it's all determined by a wonky ranking system instead of your record.

I think the Premiere League is a fascinating format. The idea that you can be bumped out of it and replaced is a truly intriguing prospect to me. Imagine such a concept in the NFL, NHL, NBA, or MLB? None of this "Suck for Luck" kind of nonsense. If you don't perform, you get bumped down a division. Imagine a team in the NHL finishing last and getting bumped down to the AHL while the best AHL team came up? That'd give even last place teams a reason to play hard until the end.

It's different, and that alone makes it very interesting for me. New dynamics to the whole thing. If it were just a playoff system, it'd be ho-hum. But the fact that you can get bumped out? You're paying attention the whole year to what's going on. The system awards the best team of the year.

I definitely agree with the lower teams getting bumped down. I think that is incredible. I also agree that baseball and hockey seasons are too long. So is basketball but because of the historical significance of season records and such I doubt that will change. (Although I'm enjoying the shortened NHL season this year!)

I have no major problem with the system but it reminds me of Nascar. So going in to the final week or day of the season could be meaningless in this format if your team is posting a point total that is far above the others. That it what is happening in my FIFA league. I plan to bump up the difficulty next season to avoid it.

I also understand how exciting the "Final Day" video was but instead of Manchester City needing to score X amount of points against QPR would it not have been even more exciting if they had completed that comeback AGAINST Man U?

In this system Manchester City and Man U could have met in the final game. Machester City could win and still have Man U win the Championship... OR worse it would be feasible for Man U to win the Championship even if Manchester City had won the majority of the games head to head. Just seems like that is no real finally.

I think the bottom of the league is handled brilliantly I just wish the top was handled differently for the top league.

[thbends]

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I'm just curious how others feel. I want to make sure you guys know I'm not complaining.... just discussing.

I love top level soccer (football). There is nothing like watching the top teams and players play. It IS a beautiful game at that level. I wish the World Cup was every two years!

It's too bad US soccer is not on that level. Watching the world Cup and then trying to watch the MLS was painful.

[Broncos86]

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I also understand how exciting the "Final Day" video was but instead of Manchester City needing to score X amount of points against QPR would it not have been even more exciting if they had completed that comeback AGAINST Man U?

In this system Manchester City and Man U could have met in the final game. Machester City could win and still have Man U win the Championship... OR worse it would be feasible for Man U to win the Championship even if Manchester City had won the majority of the games head to head. Just seems like that is no real finally.

I think the bottom of the league is handled brilliantly I just wish the top was handled differently for the top league.

THere are certainly arguments either way. And personally, neither are wrong, since it's all opinion and personal taste. For me, it's about getting something different. I don't want the PL to be the same as the NFL, or the NHL. That it's so different in its format is partially what draws me to it.

I totally get the desire to have the two top teams square off for a final showdown. But for me, that defeats the spirit of the format. But as I said, I totally understand your point of view as well.

The NHL's playoffs bring a totally different dynamic which I love. And you're right: the story of the underdog rising to the top is always thrilling. Seeing the #8 seed bump off the #1 in the first round is fascinating (hello Kings!). But too much of the same dries up the interest for me. The NFL has the thrill of "on any given Sunday." The NHL brings the rivalry that builds up over the course of a 7-game series. The English PL brings something totally different in its own right.

Personally, while everyone has been dying for a college football playoff format, I think some may not like it because of how close it will feel to the NFL. Part of what made college football is the top 25 and how that played out. Discussing why Oregon is better/worse than Stanford or Arkansas is as much fun as actually watching them play. There's a lot to be said about aspects such as that. If we only cared about watching the game, ESPN wouldn't be so huge.