MLB 13 The Show Video Interview - Franchise and Road to the Show Changes

[Curahee]

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Saw this small clip on the same page...
http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/01/23...s-1-off-screen

PART 2 of that vid.....

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/01/23/mlb-13-the-show-sf-giants-vs-chicago-cubs-2-off-screen

[tonadom]

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here's the youtube link for those who want it. I was having issue with the IGN page for some reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFiIloNVU6k

Also, man Soriano's stance still hasn't changed with that huge step he doesn't have. And Castro's stance, what is that? I really hope that isn't whats in the final game. I get what they were going for, but it just doesn't look like his actual stance. Seems odd to get upset over a batting stance, but after the new Cano stance I feel like it can take a lot of that authentic feel right out of the game. Its front and center when you are playing so how can you not pay attention to it.

And that chopper behind the plate by Sandoval scares me. I thought the new physics were going to reduce the excessive balls chopped backwards. It happens in real life, but not even close to how often players will hit choppers backwards in the show.

Relax.. Some of you guys are so worried. It's only a video game. Plus, you'll probably be able to change the stances to something you like more.

[PsychoBulk]

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Great to see the pitch type and speed flash on the scorebug before disappearing again after each pitch

[nemesis04]

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I was just going to mention both of these! I liked that about MVP. I dont use GP anymore, but because of this, I may just check it our to see how it works... ya know, for experimental sake!

The system works like this, when you guess pitch type only and guess correctly the ball will flash red just as the pitcher releases the pitch. When you guess pitch type and location correctly the quadrant picked and the strike zone outline will flash red like in the past. If you guess one of the two wrong you get no visual indication for even partially guessing correctly.

[Curahee]

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. If you guess one of the two wrong you get no visual indication for even partially guessing correctly.

Thats not what its showing in the video. The video only shows the ball flashing red, not the SZ.

[MrOldboy]

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Relax.. Some of you guys are so worried. It's only a video game. Plus, you'll probably be able to change the stances to something you like more.

I think you vastly underestimate how invested I and a lot of people on here are in the game. Only one game comes out each year with only one possible new stance for each player (and there aren't that many new stances each year 220 or so by the fact sheet, plus who knows if they took out old stances to choose from). If for example your favorite team is the Yankees and Cano's stance sucks, it can be heartbreaking since it is such a huge part of the game. We have countless threads dedicated to just batting stance authenticity, OSFM does a ton of work getting every player just right as well. It may be just a video game, but people forget it only exists in ONE FORM, this game is unique as is all games. Why do you think people went so crazy over Mass Effect 3, its because it was the ONLY Mass Effect 3. That game was large enough to warrant changes after the release because people were so upset even.

Sorry to ramble, but people need to take the community on here in perspective. If it was the ONE thing each year you were deeply invested in and planned to put hundreds of hours into, you'd be just as critical as everyone on here. For me the batting stances are a huge deal as you see these animations more than anything in the game. If they aren't spot on it sucks everytime you see them come to bat after a bunch of hours playing the game. I haven't used Ichiro on my team in many years for example because his stance is so bad I can't stand to see it that often.

[Curahee]

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Sorry to ramble, but people need to take the community on here in perspective. If it was the ONE thing each year you were deeply invested in and planned to put hundreds of hours into, you'd be just as critical as everyone on here. For me the batting stances are a huge deal as you see these animations more than anything in the game. If they aren't spot on it sucks everytime you see them come to bat after a bunch of hours playing the game. I haven't used Ichiro on my team in many years for example because his stance is so bad I can't stand to see it that often.

I understand where youre coming from but I think the issue is that it would be almost impossible to get every player to do a mo-cap on their stance and swing. I dont know if they still do, but in the past they used the "Batting Stance Guy" to replicate the stances. Some, they may even had to create themselves. (IDK, Im not a Dev). But the only way to get them 100% perfect is to get all 1200 players in studio to mo-cap and I cant imagine that it would be just that easy, as if it were easy at all.

As for guys like Cano, YES his stance, swing, walk, etc should be 100% but it will never be unless he comes in and does it himself. Otherwise it will always be impersonated by the over-animated BSG! <-- Not his biggest fan!

[thaSLAB]

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I see that Fielder's dreads made it into the game!

They were actually tweaking them while we were there too.

And that chopper behind the plate by Sandoval scares me. I thought the new physics were going to reduce the excessive balls chopped backwards. It happens in real life, but not even close to how often players will hit choppers backwards in the show.

And that makes a total of how many times you've seen it from all the MLB 13 footage we've seen so far? Also, if anything that should be encouraging because it didn't bounce 30 feet in the air, right? And frequency isn't an issue because that is dependent on the PCI placement and timing (which we already know has been opened up.)

I won't get into batting stances, because it's a moot point. I say that because Cano's stance was even different when we were at CD, and his stance from MLB12 is still in the game.

[nemesis04]

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Thats not what its showing in the video. The video only shows the ball flashing red, not the SZ.

That is because they only guessed pitch type.

[Curahee]

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That is because they only guessed pitch type.

Gotcha!

So if they had guessed location too and were wrong, theyd get nothing?
Or if they had guessed location and were right, theyd get both?
But if they only guess one and get it right they get the feedback only for that segment?

[nemesis04]

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Gotcha!

So if they had guessed location too and were wrong, theyd get nothing?
Or if they had guessed location and were right, theyd get both?
But if they only guess one and get it right they get the feedback only for that segment?

Guess pitch type only correctly: Red ball flash
Guess zone location only: That quadrant flashes red.
Guess both correctly: The quadrant and border of the strike one will flash red. No red ball flash.
Guess either one or both incorrectly: No visual feedback.
Guess both pitch type and location and get only one correct: No visual feedback.

[MrOldboy]

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I understand where youre coming from but I think the issue is that it would be almost impossible to get every player to do a mo-cap on their stance and swing. I dont know if they still do, but in the past they used the "Batting Stance Guy" to replicate the stances. Some, they may even had to create themselves. (IDK, Im not a Dev). But the only way to get them 100% perfect is to get all 1200 players in studio to mo-cap and I cant imagine that it would be just that easy, as if it were easy at all.

As for guys like Cano, YES his stance, swing, walk, etc should be 100% but it will never be unless he comes in and does it himself. Otherwise it will always be impersonated by the over-animated BSG! <-- Not his biggest fan!

That's not what I was implying. I'm simply saying that when they get the stances wrong, which is often, it is upsetting no matter how one wants to justify it. Its not like the stances are slightly off, its big things some times. Usually you can see what they were going for, but then its hard to understand why it looks so off. Its something I've come to live with because its just one part of The Show that just seems to be off each year. Which is why I'm always so eager to see the new ones every year. I hope they get them right, but I don't expect them to. Which shouldn't be the case for a game like this, I should expect them to get it spot on each year due. But in the end its still upsetting to see.

Its sometimes baffling why they chose to put work into some player's stances yet don't with others. And yes, the BSG is terrible. Its not the basic stance that confuses me though, its the smaller things about the stance. For instance in Starlin Castro's new stance, why does he constantly wave the bat? He doesn't do that in real life. I can understand getting the openness of his stance, of his front toe, but the bat waving had to be mocapped or animated. Why? Someone thought that was accurate at some point. Maybe they should look at either their system for the stances or maybe the devs working on them and see if something needs to be addressed.

[CubsHOF]

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I'm a little disappointed in the Cubs stances as well. Soriano's has been wrong for several years now. I know last year I was able to use someone else's for Castro but there was no good fix for Soriano. It's not a big deal for me because in the game I actually rake with Sorianos stance I love it lol! It would have been nice to see, but I think with all the other fixes and additions that stances out of the box would be lower down on the list.

[MrOldboy]

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I'm a little disappointed in the Cubs stances as well. Soriano's has been wrong for several years now. I know last year I was able to use someone else's for Castro but there was no good fix for Soriano. It's not a big deal for me because in the game I actually rake with Sorianos stance I love it lol! It would have been nice to see, but I think with all the other fixes and additions that stances out of the box would be lower down on the list.

But they put them at the top of the fact sheet. If they are going to put them up there implying that they want to brag about all the new stances and pitching motions in the game. But they should brag about the quality and accuracy of the stances and not how many.

[Russell_SCEA]

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But they put them at the top of the fact sheet. If they are going to put them up there implying that they want to brag about all the new stances and pitching motions in the game. But they should brag about the quality and accuracy of the stances and not how many.

Where is your logic coming from about bragging? It's a fact sheet stating features and changes as a mater of fact.

There are over 750 players in the MLB not everyone's stance is going to be perfect. We also don't have thousands of hours to sit here and make sure so and so's bat wiggle is exactly like it is in real life.

The sooner you and others realize this isn't a perfect science the better. Players change their stances mid season, sometimes they alter things from series to series.