MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

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  • tvman
    MVP
    • Nov 2010
    • 1392

    #91
    Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

    Originally posted by DJ
    Two 99 rated players for the Rockies. I'm using them this year since I am using the Mets in 12.
    Just think of all the prospects you could get for those two guys!

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    • SportsGamingBlake
      Banned
      • Feb 2012
      • 141

      #92
      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

      Man, 17 players rated 99 seems like a lot to me. And to think that they originally had 44!?

      Since this is my first year playing The Show, I'm used to having like 3 or 4 99's.

      But I 100% trust the SCEA team and have complete faith in them that they will always give us a great game no matter what they do. So I try to keep my mouth shut and let them do their thing and know that I will get an excellent baseball sim on March 5th.

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      • tonadom
        Banned
        • Mar 2012
        • 467

        #93
        Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

        Originally posted by AREYN24
        I love the number ratings, its a more accurate representation of each player based on their individual ratings for the position they play. Look at cabrera for example, dudes power and contact are off the charts, his plate discipline and ability to hit R/L pitchers is awesome. So I'm sure that the majority of his 99 is derived from his hitting ability more than his fielding seeing as its only average.
        Don't bars represent it just as accurately without a number attached to it ?

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        • NewbieRandomEtc
          Rookie
          • Feb 2003
          • 126

          #94
          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

          Numbers are a way better rating system than bars. Obviously, people don't like the ratings, which is fair. The Show has always been god-awful at rating players. But at least we don't have to deal with the bar system anymore.

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          • BBallcoach
            MVP
            • Dec 2012
            • 1524

            #95
            Why wasn't there this much uproar last year when there was just full bars instead of numbers????? Now that there is number people complain? Are you serious?
            Personally I dont care if every MLBer is a 99 as long as they play like their real life counter part is all that matters.
            I can't wait for this years game. They have finally made the changes to franchise that I have yearned for, more emphasis on scouting, the draft and your farm. I always felt that's why MVP 05 was always the best cause it felt like a complete franchise mode having to care about every aspect of it. I think The Show 13 will finally topple MVP 05 in my head.
            Beavers|Red Sox|Buccaneers|NBA Hoops

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            • nomo17k
              Permanently Banned
              • Feb 2011
              • 5735

              #96
              Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

              Hopefully, this bitter memory will drive the dev team to move away from exposing player ratings at all.... player skill are something we estimate from watching them play, see through performance stats, asking scouts, etc., etc., ....
              The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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              • Shaffer26
                MVP
                • Feb 2009
                • 1236

                #97
                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                Never understood the uproar over ratings. If you don't agree with them then change them! Be glad you can still edit players, unlike in Madden.

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                • Curahee
                  100 Miles To Go
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 4009

                  #98
                  Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                  Russell, can you explain this one for me please....

                  How is his Actual Speed greater than his Potential Speed?
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                  • pistolpete
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 1816

                    #99
                    Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                    Originally posted by nomo17k
                    player skill are something we estimate from watching them play
                    I heard the only athletes left on Earth who are judged by watching them play are offensive linemen. The rest are done with ratings extrapolated from statistics.

                    Dude, it's 2013. Number ratings are where it is at.

                    You can do a lot with number ratings. Divide an overall by an expected salary and there you have a value.

                    17 99s could also be meaningless because it's a number derived from an algorithm. It may mean nothing to how the games are played on the field.

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                    • seanjeezy
                      The Future
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 3347

                      #100
                      Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                      Originally posted by Curahee
                      Russell, can you explain this one for me please....

                      How is his Actual Speed greater than his Potential Speed?
                      That's actually a really good sign. Players lose speed as they get older, and a 1st baseman whose goal is to get bigger and stronger will lose his speed fairly quickly.
                      Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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                      • Curahee
                        100 Miles To Go
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 4009

                        #101
                        Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                        Originally posted by seanjeezy
                        That's actually a really good sign. Players lose speed as they get older, and a 1st baseman whose goal is to get bigger and stronger will lose his speed fairly quickly.

                        OK? Im not sure I understand.

                        In this example, he is 18 y/o. His PS is 15.
                        If thats his potential, which to me means the highest he'll ever achieve, how is his AS 27?
                        How does that work?

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                        • tonadom
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 467

                          #102
                          Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                          Originally posted by NewbieRandomEtc
                          Numbers are a way better rating system than bars. Obviously, people don't like the ratings, which is fair. The Show has always been god-awful at rating players. But at least we don't have to deal with the bar system anymore.
                          Why do you post your opinion like it's a fact ?

                          Yea, it was so difficult dealing with the bar system.. ?

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                          • seanjeezy
                            The Future
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 3347

                            #103
                            Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                            Originally posted by Curahee
                            OK? Im not sure I understand.

                            In this example, he is 18 y/o. His PS is 15.
                            If thats his potential, which to me means the highest he'll ever achieve, how is his AS 27?
                            How does that work?
                            Isn't it pretty self-explanatory? Obviously it means his speed will regress...

                            By saying it was a good sign I was referring to the potential system, not the fact that his speed will regress... Regression in some attributes is good, that means the system is closer to mirroring what actually happens in real life.
                            Last edited by seanjeezy; 02-13-2013, 12:57 AM.
                            Bakin' soda, I got bakin' soda

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                            • nomo17k
                              Permanently Banned
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 5735

                              #104
                              Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                              Originally posted by pistolpete
                              I heard the only athletes left on Earth who are judged by watching them play are offensive linemen. The rest are done with ratings extrapolated from statistics.

                              Dude, it's 2013. Number ratings are where it is at.

                              You can do a lot with number ratings. Divide an overall by an expected salary and there you have a value.

                              17 99s could also be meaningless because it's a number derived from an algorithm. It may mean nothing to how the games are played on the field.

                              No, it's not quite the same thing to say that a player can be rated numerically and that a player's true skill can be rated at all. As anyone who deals with statistics in life knows, all such activities come up with *estimates* of what the numbers should represent.

                              I have no issues with MLB scout using 20 - 80 scale to rate players.

                              But I have an issue with exposing player ratings in a game like this, only because that's actually the true skill of the player. A Contact = 66 player should hit .255 on average, since the game is actually tuned precisely to produce such a player.

                              Unless I'm doing editing, I really don't want to know that much detail about a player. It takes fun away from me.
                              The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                              • Curahee
                                100 Miles To Go
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 4009

                                #105
                                Re: MLB 13 The Show - The Player Ratings Algorithm Has Changed, 17 Players Rated 99

                                Originally posted by seanjeezy
                                Isn't it pretty self-explanatory?
                                No. Thats why I asked the question!

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