MLB 13 The Show Video - The Show Live

[Knight165]

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Don't quote me as gospel here...but I think they were talking about creating a fictional player with similar(if not exact) ratings to the player that will be introduced later in the update.

Again...this was an "up in the air" thing when I asked what they would be doing in these instances.



M.K.
Knight165

[speels]

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My question is, let's say Player X is called up on June 21, I understand that I will not be able to use him if I play on June 21, but let's say I want to play this game in July, would I be able to use the "real" player then, or are the rosters "stuck" to the day in the schedule. So that no matter when I played that particular game, I would only be able to play with the generic player.

Make sense?

[Arod2k9]

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This blog sold me two paid in full pre-orders from GameStop, this game will be insane. I just can't wait for March 5th!

[Curahee]

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Don't quote me as gospel here...but I think they were talking about creating a fictional player with similar(if not exact) ratings to the player that will be introduced later in the update.

Again...this was an "up in the air" thing when I asked what they would be doing in these instances.



M.K.
Knight165

Yes I do believe that is correct.

[vcu9]

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does anyone know if when we get the game on march 5th, will we be able to play games from the 2012 mlb season? or can we play spring training games from march 2013 or must we wait for the 2013 mlb season to begin?

thanks.

[Jaybirdy24]

Noticed the rangers video board is not updated like I inquired about in the stadium thread. Us this just an old build or did they not have time to correct it? I know theSLAB told Greg about it, any news on that front?

[kubankaos]

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That's pretty much what I was saying, just didn't articulate it very well.

Well after reading it again, it looks like I just copied exactly what you wrote.

I guess I was overly excited to get my thought out there even though your was the same thing.

[Knight165]

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My question is, let's say Player X is called up on June 21, I understand that I will not be able to use him if I play on June 21, but let's say I want to play this game in July, would I be able to use the "real" player then, or are the rosters "stuck" to the day in the schedule. So that no matter when I played that particular game, I would only be able to play with the generic player.

Make sense?

It does(make sense...and is a good question)....and I think that if the player is on the updated roster from later in the year....he will appear when playing that earlier in the year game.

M.K.
Knight165

[DJ]

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The only downside to this mode is not being able to use the OSFM roster. I sure hope SCEA has looked at adjusting the pitch speed differentials; I really don't want to play game after game against pitchers with 95-mph fastballs and 78-mph changeups.

[seanjeezy]

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The only downside to this mode is not being able to use the OSFM roster. I sure hope SCEA has looked at adjusting the pitch speed differentials; I really don't want to play game after game against pitchers with 95-mph fastballs and 78-mph changeups.

This should be alleviated - they're directly affiliated with MLB.com and therefore MLB gameday (pitch f/x) as well. The big issue now is pitch classification and movement, since the system only designates 12 pitch types (I believe The Show has 18 types), don't expect to see these pitch types with any regularity: running fastballs, circle changeups, 12-6 curves, sweeping curves, or slurves. It sucks because running fastballs (4-seam with movement) and circle changes are two of the most common pitches thrown in the MLB...

Here are some numbers to put it in perspective:

I have 805 MLB pitchers with pitch f/x data, 262 (32.5%) have a running fastball as their primary pitch, 221 (27.4%) have a 4-seam, 138 (17.1%) have a 2-seam, 89 (11%) have a sinker.

547 (68%) throw a circle change, 159 (19.8%) throw a straight change.

225 (28%) throw a traditional curve, 183 (22.7%) throw a sweeping curve, 42 (5.2%) throw 12-6 curve

478 (59.4%) throw a slider, 87 (10.8%) throw a slurve

446 (55.4%) throw a running fastball, 303 (37.6%) throw a 4-seam

[DJ]

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I like the part in the video about using the Vita to keep track of box scores. That'll be updated in real time?

[nomo17k]

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This should be alleviated - they're directly affiliated with MLB.com and therefore MLB gameday (pitch f/x) as well. The big issue now is pitch classification and movement, since the system only designates 12 pitch types (I believe The Show has 18 types), don't expect to see these pitch types with any regularity: running fastballs, circle changeups, 12-6 curves, sweeping curves, or slurves. It sucks because running fastballs (4-seam with movement) and circle changes are two of the most common pitches thrown in the MLB...

Here are some numbers to put it in perspective:

I have 805 MLB pitchers with pitch f/x data, 262 (32.5%) have a running fastball as their primary pitch, 221 (27.4%) have a 4-seam, 138 (17.1%) have a 2-seam, 89 (11%) have a sinker.

547 (68%) throw a circle change, 159 (19.8%) throw a straight change.

225 (28%) throw a traditional curve, 183 (22.7%) throw a sweeping curve, 42 (5.2%) throw 12-6 curve

478 (59.4%) throw a slider, 87 (10.8%) throw a slurve

446 (55.4%) throw a running fastball, 303 (37.6%) throw a 4-seam

Those numbers are from labeling pitches by movement, and not how the pitcher/scout/people call those pitches, correct? The complication here is that the name "circle change" derives from how the pitcher grips the ball, and not how it moves. There are many guys who throw (straight) change which moves like circle change in the game (tailing action).

[seanjeezy]

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Those numbers are from labeling pitches by movement, and not how the pitcher/scout/people call those pitches, correct? The complication here is that the name "circle change" derives from how the pitcher grips the ball, and not how it moves. There are many guys who throw (straight) change which moves like circle change in the game (tailing action).

That's the problem, I've stated many times that the name of the pitch is insignificant, proper movement is much. more. important. I don't know why this is so hard to understand lol



Felix has been given a straight change every year he has been in The Show... Does that look like a straight change to you?

AFAIK, scouts aren't very picky about pitch types... fastball, slider,curve,change,specialty (cut,split,knuckle, etc.) is all they need to know. pitches aren't differentiated by grip, they are differentiated by movement. You often hear these words - Life, run, fade, ride, cut, sink, bite, sweep, two-plane break, slurvy... The list goes on. Since the game requires one to be overly specific when determining pitch types, movement is the way to determine pitch classification, or else the result is an inaccurate representation of the pitch.

[nomo17k]

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That's the problem, I've stated many times that the name of the pitch is insignificant, proper movement is much. more. important. I don't know why this is so hard to understand lol

Felix has been given a straight change every year he has been in The Show... Does that look like a straight change to you?

AFAIK, scouts aren't very picky about pitch types... fastball, slider,curve,change,specialty (cut,split,knuckle, etc.) is all they need to know. pitches aren't differentiated by grip, they are differentiated by movement. You often hear these words - Life, run, fade, ride, cut, sink, bite, sweep, two-plane break, slurvy... The list goes on. Since the game requires one to be overly specific when determining pitch types, movement is the way to determine pitch classification, or else the result is an inaccurate representation of the pitch.

No, Felix's change doesn't go straight down, but he probably doesn't grip it making a circle with his thumb and and index finger, does he (IDK myself)? That's what makes the system confusing right now.

I don't think it's hard to understand, but it's just the limitation right now... if you go by the movement, the pitch may be given weird name, if you go by name, the pitch doesn't necessarily move correctly. Pitch labeling in the game isn't a perfect system and I'm not sure if there's anything new coming up to drastically change one way or another. I want to see a system that purely goes by pitch fx data (even more so that right now), but that might not happen so easily...

[seanjeezy]

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No, Felix's change doesn't go straight down, but he probably doesn't grip it making a circle with his thumb and and index finger, does he (IDK myself)? That's what makes the system confusing right now.

I don't think it's hard to understand, but it's just the limitation right now... if you go by the movement, the pitch may be given weird name, if you go by name, the pitch doesn't necessarily move correctly. Pitch labeling in the game isn't a perfect system and I'm not sure if there's anything new coming up to drastically change one way or another. I want to see a system that purely goes by pitch fx data (even more so that right now), but that might not happen so easily...

He throws a split-circle, the "OK" sign is just a way to put pressure on the inside of the ball to manipulate the fading/diving movement.

Anyway, I know there's a really fine line here... I'm sure there are people who could care less how the pitch moves as long as its "labeled" correctly, and then there's the rest who don't care about the name and more about the movement. I've come to cope with the limitations of the system and try to incorporate both when I do edits, off the top of my head the most notable example is Kimbrel's breaking ball - he calls it a curve, it breaks like a curve, but its speed is more like a slider and therefore f/x calls it a slider... In-game the velocity cap for curveballs is 84 mph, so I have no choice but to give him a slurve. Situations like these require a human eye, there's no way around it.