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  • CelticHeart
    Banned
    • Oct 2009
    • 277

    #46
    Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

    Originally posted by drog1602
    You can find a better description of what the sliders do, if you create a season and then go to slider edits in that game mode. I have no idea why they do not provide a better one in play now or just in game settings.

    I did not notice more rebounds but I you will see more loose pucks as a result of players being bumped in front of the net. Going above 4, seems to result in more strange goals or pucks that seem to go to the opposition. I found at 3 or 4 that the players can keep control a little better and the pucks don't seem to squirt as far away from them.

    The thing I like about setting it at 4, is increased battles along the boards and in front of the net. Sure we might have more chipped in pucks in the crease area, but that is more like the NHL anyways.

    I will see if I can upload a game sample, so you guys can compare to what I get.
    Sorry but I dont find any better description in edit sliding under season mode.... talking about 360 version....

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    • Cycloniac
      Man, myth, legend.
      • May 2009
      • 6508

      #47
      Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

      Originally posted by CelticHeart
      Sorry but I dont find any better description in edit sliding under season mode.... talking about 360 version....
      Neither do I.
      THE TrueSim PROJECTS



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      • drog1602
        Rookie
        • Sep 2011
        • 400

        #48
        Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

        Maybe I just never noticed it before? I will have to take a look at the sliders under My NHL, again. I just recall them being vauge.

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        • drog1602
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 400

          #49
          Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

          Here are three periods of my season no sim league. This is the Ai versus Ai, I will post my slider set later.

          Detroit vs St.Louis

          Period 1


          Period 2


          Period 3

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          • drog1602
            Rookie
            • Sep 2011
            • 400

            #50
            Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

            Here are three periods of my season no sim league. This is the Ai versus Ai, I will post my slider set later.

            Detroit vs St.Louis

            Period 1
            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aMpQJ2x3VIo" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


            Period 2
            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/mjMcFo477-Q" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>


            Period 3
            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/KgK1l_whjNY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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            • drog1602
              Rookie
              • Sep 2011
              • 400

              #51
              Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

              Here are my current slider settings, as used in the above videos and the video after this post.

              Rules
              Skill: All-star
              Period Length: 12 minutes
              Penalties: Maxed
              Post Whistle Rules : Authentic
              Penalty Time Scaling: 2
              Fighting: 3


              General

              Tuner Set Version: v1.05
              CPU Aid: Hardcore
              Broken Stick Frequency: 2
              Game Speed: 2
              Attribute Effects: 6
              Fatigue Effect: 5 H /5 c
              Fatigue Recovery: 5 / 5
              Injury Occurrence: 5 /5
              Puck Control: 4 /1cpu
              Player Acceleration: 4 Hum / 6 cpu


              AI

              AI Learning: 0
              CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0
              CPU Strategy Adjustment: 0
              Human Strategy Adjustment: 0
              CPU Face Off Difficulty: 4
              Fight Difficulty: 6
              CPU Penalties: 6
              CPU Teammate Penalties:4


              Passing

              Pass Assist: 0
              Manual Passing: On
              Pass Speed: 4
              Saucer Pass Speed: 0
              Pass Accuracy: 6 / 6
              Pass Reception Ease: 0 / 0
              Pass Interceptions: 2 /2


              Shooting

              Shot Accuracy: 0 , 0
              Shot Power: 2 / 2
              Slap Shot Accuracy: 2 / 2
              Slap Shot Power: 6 / 6
              One-Timer Accuracy: 1 / 1


              Checking

              Hitting Assistance: 6
              Aggression: 4 / 4
              Hitting Power: 0 , 0
              Stick Lift Effectiveness: 3 /3
              Poke Effectiveness: 1 / 1


              Goalies

              Goalie Passing: 3
              Goalie Cover Puck Frequency: 5
              Goalie Screen Effect: 0 / 0
              Goalie Reaction Speed: 0 / 0

              Custom Ai set:

              - I leave the team strategies as they are set for each team
              - NZ - FC slider for each team, set at five (5)
              - Set the PP carry -dump slider to six (6)

              FWD Line 1
              Carry /Dump- 7
              Cycle/Shoot - 4
              Efficiency -10
              Block - 8

              FWD Line 2
              Carry /Dump- 7
              Cycle/Shoot - 4
              Efficiency -10
              Block - 8

              FWD Line 3
              Carry /Dump- 8
              Cycle/Shoot - 5
              Efficiency -10
              Block - 8

              FWD Line 4
              Carry /Dump- 8
              Cycle/Shoot - 6
              Efficiency -10
              Block - 10

              Def Pair 1
              Hold/Pinch - 7
              Cycle/Shoot - 4

              Def Pair 2
              Hold/Pinch - 7
              Cycle/Shoot - 4

              Def Pair 3
              Hold/Pinch - 7
              Cycle/Shoot - 4

              * All goalies had their consistency attribute set at zero (0)
              * All players had wrist shot power lowered by 10pts (NHL/AHL). This was so I could raise the shot speed for slap shots but give the goalies a chance on wrist shots.
              * Tuner set 1.05 has the best goalies play, especially on short side shots
              Last edited by drog1602; 06-09-2013, 11:22 AM.

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              • drog1602
                Rookie
                • Sep 2011
                • 400

                #52
                Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                This game was an epic battle, we pick up in the third period tied 2-2.
                LA vs Carolina.

                Period 3

                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/N9ayJNEerZ4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                Overtime
                <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/PIBvx7rsuNQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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                • Cycloniac
                  Man, myth, legend.
                  • May 2009
                  • 6508

                  #53
                  Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                  I've resolved that to say the puck control is reversed is not entirely correct.

                  There are different consequences to raising and lowering this slider, and some of which differ from what one would normally think the puck control slider affects, but it isn't actually reversed.

                  I'll also say that the description of the pass accuracy slider is dead on. Raising this icreases how much attributes and game content affect a successful pass. Therefore, how high you have your attribute slider is VERY important. If you have it at 5 or higher, it actually creates a negative affect (I guess this is the case for everything) on gameplay. What I really noticed was that the number of successful "spectacular" passes occured overall. It even negated the pass interception slider at times.
                  THE TrueSim PROJECTS



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                  • drog1602
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 400

                    #54
                    Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                    I agree that when you raise one slider, you might have to lower something else, since there are good points and bad to them all. It all comes down to what we each feel gives us a good game and suits the game we want.
                    I think with my sliders and custom Ai, Season game mode plays as close and competitive as I can get this game. I have no desire to play BeAGM, since it does not play the same for me.

                    I hope everyone can find a game style that suits them as well.

                    Have fun!

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                    • PensFan813
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 813

                      #55
                      Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                      Originally posted by drog1602
                      Here are my current slider settings, as used in the above videos and the video after this post.

                      Rules
                      Skill: All-star
                      Period Length: 12 minutes
                      Penalties: Maxed
                      Post Whistle Rules : Authentic
                      Penalty Time Scaling: 2
                      Fighting: 3


                      General

                      Tuner Set Version: v1.05
                      CPU Aid: Hardcore
                      Broken Stick Frequency: 2
                      Game Speed: 2
                      Attribute Effects: 6
                      Fatigue Effect: 5 H /5 c
                      Fatigue Recovery: 5 / 5
                      Injury Occurrence: 5 /5
                      Puck Control: 4 /4
                      Player Acceleration: 4 Hum / 6 cpu


                      AI

                      AI Learning: 0
                      CPU Difficulty Adjustment: 0
                      CPU Strategy Adjustment: 0
                      Human Strategy Adjustment: 0
                      CPU Face Off Difficulty: 4
                      Fight Difficulty: 6
                      CPU Penalties: 6
                      CPU Teammate Penalties:4


                      Passing

                      Pass Assist: 0
                      Manual Passing: On
                      Pass Speed: 4
                      Saucer Pass Speed: 0
                      Pass Accuracy: 6 / 6
                      Pass Reception Ease: 0 / 0
                      Pass Interceptions: 2 /2


                      Shooting

                      Shot Accuracy: 0 , 0
                      Shot Power: 2 / 2
                      Slap Shot Accuracy: 2 / 2
                      Slap Shot Power: 6 / 6
                      One-Timer Accuracy: 1 / 1


                      Checking

                      Hitting Assistance: 6
                      Aggression: 4 / 4
                      Hitting Power: 0 , 0
                      Stick Lift Effectiveness: 3 /3
                      Poke Effectiveness: 1 / 1


                      Goalies

                      Goalie Passing: 3
                      Goalie Cover Puck Frequency: 5
                      Goalie Screen Effect: 0 / 0
                      Goalie Reaction Speed: 0 / 0

                      Custom Ai set:

                      - I leave the team strategies as they are set for each team
                      - NZ - FC slider for each team, set at five (5)
                      - Set the PP carry -dump slider to six (6)

                      FWD Line 1
                      Carry /Dump- 7
                      Cycle/Shoot - 4
                      Efficiency -10
                      Block - 8

                      FWD Line 2
                      Carry /Dump- 7
                      Cycle/Shoot - 4
                      Efficiency -10
                      Block - 8

                      FWD Line 3
                      Carry /Dump- 8
                      Cycle/Shoot - 5
                      Efficiency -10
                      Block - 8

                      FWD Line 4
                      Carry /Dump- 8
                      Cycle/Shoot - 6
                      Efficiency -10
                      Block - 10

                      Def Pair 1
                      Hold/Pinch - 7
                      Cycle/Shoot - 4

                      Def Pair 2
                      Hold/Pinch - 7
                      Cycle/Shoot - 4

                      Def Pair 3
                      Hold/Pinch - 7
                      Cycle/Shoot - 4

                      * All goalies had their consistency attribute set at zero (0)
                      * All players had wrist shot power lowered by 10pts (NHL/AHL). This was so I could raise the shot speed for slap shots but give the goalies a chance on wrist shots.
                      * Tuner set 1.05 has the best goalies play, especially on short side shots
                      not sure if your on here or not anymore but tried your sliders and i like them, but i have had 4 games in a row where i have lost 3-2, i was up 2-1 with 1 minute to go and they always score cause my goalie does some stupid move and they jam the rebound in, like hes too slow to react, was wondering what kind of changes could i make

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                      • drog1602
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 400

                        #56
                        Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                        @ Pensfan,

                        Part of the issue is that EA programmed the game for easy late period goals. But there are a couple of things to try.

                        Did you set your goalies consistency to zero? This makes them the most consistent and at three the least. Most of the starters are set at one.

                        You could also raise the goalie reaction up to one for both cpu and human. I had mine at zero, because I wanted it to be about good positioning and at times they over anticipate with this higher. But try just going up one notch.

                        I also tend to dump the puck out a lot more towards the end of periods, not give the AI too much zone time.

                        Hope that helps

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                        • PensFan813
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 813

                          #57
                          Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                          Originally posted by drog1602
                          @ Pensfan,

                          Part of the issue is that EA programmed the game for easy late period goals. But there are a couple of things to try.

                          Did you set your goalies consistency to zero? This makes them the most consistent and at three the least. Most of the starters are set at one.

                          You could also raise the goalie reaction up to one for both cpu and human. I had mine at zero, because I wanted it to be about good positioning and at times they over anticipate with this higher. But try just going up one notch.

                          I also tend to dump the puck out a lot more towards the end of periods, not give the AI too much zone time.

                          Hope that helps
                          where do u do goalie consistancy at?

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                          • drog1602
                            Rookie
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 400

                            #58
                            Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                            To edit the goalie, got to " my nhl13/creation zone/edit player" choose the goalie and choose the attributes menu, its about half way down the menu.

                            Also note, I changed my puck control slider for the cpu you, it is set to 1. I found with it higher it created really odd bounces when they were using puck protect.

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                            • PensFan813
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 813

                              #59
                              Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                              so you did that for every goalie then?

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                              • drog1602
                                Rookie
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 400

                                #60
                                Re: A few things you can do to make the game better

                                Originally posted by PensFan813
                                so you did that for every goalie then?
                                Yes, including backup. You will still see the odd game with blowouts, but also shutouts.

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