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  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #166
    Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

    #32 overall pick I would say is a high price. I wouldn't just look at last year, there have been countless franchise type or star type players drafted way after the first round.

    Either way, SF made out like bandits.

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    • wwharton
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2002
      • 26949

      #167
      Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
      #32 overall pick I would say is a high price. I wouldn't just look at last year, there have been countless franchise type or star type players drafted way after the first round.

      Either way, SF made out like bandits.
      You can't look at it like that though. Will there be players drafted later that are better? Of course there will be. But the benefit of drafting higher means you have more control over getting the guy YOU think will succeed. Knowing what Alex Smith is vs an unknown on the board after 32 other guys have gone is how it needs to be looked at.

      The same thing with "who were they bidding against". Lets say you jump onboard with Arizona, Jacksonville, whoever and hold off until SF lowers the price. Then they're all back in the mix and there's a chance KC doesn't get Smith at all. We're not working a Madden trade machine. If you definitely want a guy you make an offer that TAKES the other competition out of the equation. That's what they did.

      I disagree with the idea that there isn't a better player they could draft at 33. But there definitely isn't a better QB and that's what they need. It also frees them from thinking about risking the #1 overall on one of these QBs with question marks and focus on drafting a guy that's more likely to be a starter and probably pro bowler for years to come.

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      • 55
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 20857

        #168
        Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

        Drew Brees was once the first pick in the second round of the NFL Draft.

        Just sayin'.

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        • Kaiser Wilhelm
          MVP
          • Sep 2010
          • 2790

          #169
          Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

          Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea
          Were you good with money when you were in your early 20s? If so, that makes you the exception. I spent every dime I had because that's what 21/22 year olds do.
          I'm 19 and in finishing my second year of college. If I had money to spend, I'd eat more than Ramen noodles.

          I am very frugal though. To be fair, I'm also fairly anti-social as a consequence of a series of unfortunate events in middle and high school that I never developmentally recovered from.
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          • Bmore Irish
            The Future
            • Jul 2011
            • 3461

            #170
            Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

            Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
            I'm 19 and in finishing my second year of college. If I had money to spend, I'd eat more than Ramen noodles.

            I am very frugal though. To be fair, I'm also fairly anti-social as a consequence of a series of unfortunate events in middle and high school that I never developmentally recovered from.
            Sorry to hear that. I'm a broke college student and live off of about $200 a month. Dollar store grocery shopping, that's where I'm at lol. Sadly, a disproportionate amount of my money goes towards alcohol too haha.

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            • bigeastbumrush
              My Momma's Son
              • Feb 2003
              • 19245

              #171
              Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

              @RapSheet: Sources: The @NFL salary cap has been sent to clubs. It is set at $123 million. Up from $120.6M
              Salary cap

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              • Kaiser Wilhelm
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 2790

                #172
                Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                Salary cap
                I gathered from some reactions being thrown around this is a low increase compared to the norm. Am I correct on that? If so what is the norm for cap increases?
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                • ex carrabba fan
                  I'll thank him for you
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #173
                  Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                  Originally posted by wwharton
                  You can't look at it like that though. Will there be players drafted later that are better? Of course there will be. But the benefit of drafting higher means you have more control over getting the guy YOU think will succeed. Knowing what Alex Smith is vs an unknown on the board after 32 other guys have gone is how it needs to be looked at.

                  The same thing with "who were they bidding against". Lets say you jump onboard with Arizona, Jacksonville, whoever and hold off until SF lowers the price. Then they're all back in the mix and there's a chance KC doesn't get Smith at all. We're not working a Madden trade machine. If you definitely want a guy you make an offer that TAKES the other competition out of the equation. That's what they did.

                  I disagree with the idea that there isn't a better player they could draft at 33. But there definitely isn't a better QB and that's what they need. It also frees them from thinking about risking the #1 overall on one of these QBs with question marks and focus on drafting a guy that's more likely to be a starter and probably pro bowler for years to come.
                  Right, the bottom portion of your statement is what I was getting at. As far as the QB class, that's not even a question of how weak it is.

                  Again, SF made out like bandits

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                  • mestevo
                    Gooney Goo Goo
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19556

                    #174
                    Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                    Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                    I gathered from some reactions being thrown around this is a low increase compared to the norm. Am I correct on that? If so what is the norm for cap increases?
                    It's more than was initially expected, but there's no large bump coming from the new TV deals that some might have been expecting. Without doing the math, the average starter's contract is ballooning much faster than the salary cap, which will cause big problems for teams down the road doing all of these restructures. (can explain what that does to the cap if you're not clear)

                    History of increases from Wikipedia:

                    Year Maximum Team Salary
                    2012 $120.6 million
                    2011 $120 million
                    2010 Uncapped
                    2009 $123 million
                    2008 $116 million
                    2007 $109 million
                    2006 $102 million
                    2005 $85.5 million
                    2004 $80.582 million
                    2003 $75.007 million
                    2002 $71.101 million
                    2001 $67.405 million
                    2000 $62.172 million
                    1999 $57.288 million
                    1998 $52.388 million
                    1997 $41.454 million
                    1996 $40.753 million
                    1995 $37.1 million
                    1994 $34.608 million

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                    • N51_rob
                      Faceuary!
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 14805

                      #175
                      Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                      Great post mestevo. There are QBs right now that make 59% of the 1994 team salary cap. Crazy to think about. Yeah, the NFL is about to correct itself with player salaries in the near future.
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                      • bigeastbumrush
                        My Momma's Son
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 19245

                        #176
                        Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                        Yep. All the contract restructuring going on right now is just deferring the cap hit to future years. It's going to get ugly for some teams soon.

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                        • SidVish
                          2010,13,15,16 CHAMPS!
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 11743

                          #177
                          Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

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                          • LowerWolf
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 12279

                            #178
                            Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                            Looking at Mestevo's chart, it's insane how salaries have boomed over the last 20 years. And it's not just the NFL. Baseball and Basketball are similar.

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                            • Bmore Irish
                              The Future
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 3461

                              #179
                              Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                              Remember also that these are flat cap years through like 2015, as per the new CBA. So there isn't going to be any substantive increase. Now, after 2015 I'm sure we will see increases similar to recent years.

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                              • bigeastbumrush
                                My Momma's Son
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 19245

                                #180
                                Re: 2013 Transactions Thread

                                @JayGlazer: Ravens have agreed to a new contract with QB Joe Flacco. He will sign it on Monday

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