Operation Sports Full Minors 2013 (Available around Opening Day)

**seanjeezy** · 02-28-2013, 09:07 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Hey Knight, I've talked to Bat about the progression system (since he has the game) and I believe the years away section is going to need an overhaul... You might want to check with him on the specifics, but A players rapidly progress in just a few years. The example he gave me was Jesus Montero going from an 85 to a 91 in a year and a half and in three years he was a 99.

Also, now that the official thread is open I can go over some general guidelines for pitch edits if there isn't enough info provided:

1. The velocity displayed in the edit player screen is the average velocity, so if you give a guy a 95 mph fastball he will actually range from 93-98. There's usually 4-5 points before you actually see MPH change, think of those as increasing average velo by ~.2 MPH. 99.9% of scouting reports give fastball velocity so there shouldn't be any issues finding info, but just in case, the average MLB fastball was ~91 MPH, the MiLB average is probably a little less.

2. Fastball/Changeup differential was always something that plagued the SCEA rosters in the past and OSFM was no different. There seems to be a common belief that a changeup isn't good unless its ~10 MPH slower than the fastball and that's simply not true. The average MLB differential was ~7 MPH and its probably a little less in the MiLB.

3. Slider movement should be based on velocity - 50+ movement should be reserved for slow sweeping sliders (10+ MPH differential from fastball).

4. Don't be afraid to assign the variants - RFB, CIR, SCV. Running fastballs and circle changes should be two of the most common pitch types, most pitchers get some kind of horizontal movement on their 4-seams and changeups.

5. Be generous with movement - your average moving fastball/curveball/changeup/splitter should be in the 55-65 range, movement should scale with velocity.

Once again these are generic guidelines if not enough info is provided. Most free reports only give fastball velocity and if you're lucky, the velocity for the pitcher's best offspeed pitch.

Here's my pitch edits spreadsheet, tabs are self-explanatory, I'm currently through the Cardinals for the MiLB section: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...GclUxOVE#gid=2

I've also been updating my spreadsheet with minor league pitch f/x data, I should have that ready to go by release and I'll post a link when its ready.

I'm also posting the working list of A's and B+'s, Knight said the number of A's should be in the 45-55 range:

I'll now be posting updates as I continue to edit faces for the top 100. Next to the player's name will be the name of the person editing and the status of said edit

Spoiler

So that's 50 A's and 64 B+'s, the B+'s are more flexible but the number of A's should preferably be kept to a minimum. I didn't bother with the B's or B-'s since those are more of your solid and average major leaguers and the list would be too long.

when you guys are done editing prospects that fall within the lists I posted, please upload them to the vault (preferably in bulk) so Panda and I can do the face edits. Also pm me your psn... Thanks!

**Knight165** · 02-28-2013, 09:09 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Here are a few tips to editing.

-Set up your entire team ahead of time....meaning figure out how many A/B/C/D of each player you will need.(position player and pitcher....just go with that to start...don't worry about individual positions)
-Go to the ROSTER CONTROL screen and export at least one of each POTENTIAL(pitcher and position player) and then import over the current fake players until you get the proper mix.

SAVE YOUR ROSTER at this point and it will be your base.

If myself,Ridin and seanjeezy have already figured out who the A/B +/- players are...we will provide you with their names on the default roster and you will use those to be the guys to import so that we get the right progression for particular players.
(for example....if we were creating Mike Trout...we would want to make sure we use an A potential player that has the largest projected growth path...)
Don't worry too much about this...it will be easy once you have the name.

Now it's just editing.

If you use a list...it's much easier to keep track of who you have done and who needs to be added.

Don't worry too much about the "fill in"(C's/D's) until we get closer to finish....the teams don't really take shape until ST(real life) is winding down.

Once you have a bunch of players...you can send me the link to the file(or you will upload it to the Vault using a nondescript name(NO OSFM in the title) and just PM me your PSN name and the roster name...and we can grab the players in bunches.(10 or 15 at a time)
You can just complete it and send it as well....your choice.

Take your time...it is a slow process.

M.K.
Knight165

**Knight165** · 02-28-2013, 09:11 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Originally posted by seanjeezy

Hey Knight, I've talked to Bat about the progression system (since he has the game) and I believe the years away section is going to need an overhaul... You might want to check with him on the specifics, but A players rapidly progress in just a few years. The example he gave me was Jesus Montero going from an 85 to a 91 in a year and a half and in three years he was a 99.

Don't bother looking at OVR....I need to see specific individual ratings jumps....

We may need to remove a year or two from the top.....

M.K.
Knight165

**Ivanhoe** · 02-28-2013, 09:49 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Knight,
Do we know if a pitcher's control and movement will increase as they gain experience, or should we rate them at their projected peak levels?

**Knight165** · 02-28-2013, 10:03 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Originally posted by Ivanhoe

Knight,
Do we know if a pitcher's control and movement will increase as they gain experience, or should we rate them at their projected peak levels?

Projected peak levels.
I didn't look to see if the control + jumped this year.

I didn't even get a chance to look at the individual pitch progression(there has never been any yet) to be honest....but I don't think it's changed.

Good points seanjeezy.

Guys...if you have any questions on pitches(pitchers) seanjeezy is the one to ask for sure(I hope you don't mind I just lobbed that at you sj

....but you've got the best handle on it)

M.K.
Knight165

**Willard76** · 03-01-2013, 06:07 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

If anyone would like a blank spreadsheet to enter ratings onto I have one I can share on Google Docs.

**teeds** · 03-02-2013, 12:04 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Originally posted by Willard76

If anyone would like a blank spreadsheet to enter ratings onto I have one I can share on Google Docs.

I'm interested in this spreadsheet.

**Willard76** · 03-02-2013, 02:41 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Ok, here is the spreadsheet I use, originally created by TheAub, I altered it a little and find it is a great tool for laying out my roster.

2 Pages - Hitters and Pitchers

Once you open the link and click on File and then Make Copy and save it to your own Google Docs - if you don't have an account make one before you do any of this.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FE&usp=sharing

**michaelhalljr** · 03-02-2013, 06:04 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Thanks ahead of time to all of u that put the time and effort into making this great game even greater.

Now, all u lucky one's that got it early, get too work!!!!

Lol, again thanks!!

**teeds** · 03-02-2013, 06:38 PM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Originally posted by Willard76

Ok, here is the spreadsheet I use, originally created by TheAub, I altered it a little and find it is a great tool for laying out my roster.

2 Pages - Hitters and Pitchers

Once you open the link and click on File and then Make Copy and save it to your own Google Docs - if you don't have an account make one before you do any of this.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FE&usp=sharing

Yup, thanks much. This is great.

**MrOldboy** · 03-03-2013, 04:27 AM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Since have not worked on OSFM before a few questions. I've been reading up on how the rosters are done from past and current threads, but I'm still confused on a few things.

Is it already determined which players will be in the roster on each team?

For the A and B players will the years away be provided? I'm sure different people have varying opinions on when a prospect progress.

Is any editing done to MLB players? I honestly can't remember if OSFM does or not.

OK found the post I saw from last year.

Originally posted by Knight165

Not with the initial release.
They will be stock SCEA ratings for real players.

Someone will likely update them though.

M.K.
Knight165

So all SCEA players remain untouched? Even prospects that are on the official SCEA roster? No rating changes will be made?

**Jibbler** · 03-03-2013, 04:54 AM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

im actually interested in the way its done, I only came in halfway through last year

do you start by sorting out who the 40 man roster is first and create the players NOT in the game from the 40 man roster? then work on AA then AAA etc?

**dandrews** · 03-03-2013, 09:57 AM

New to The Show this year. I have a question about the ratings. How exactly are they determined for each team? Is it up to the creator of that team? Is there some kind of uniform scale everyone works with? What's to prevent someone from overrating their team's favorite prospects causing they're rating in the game to be inflated?

Appreciate any insight and come Tuesday, Happy gaming!

**Knight165** · 03-03-2013, 10:52 AM

Re: Operation Sports Full Minors 2013

Originally posted by MrOldboy

Since have not worked on OSFM before a few questions. I've been reading up on how the rosters are done from past and current threads, but I'm still confused on a few things.

Is it already determined which players will be in the roster on each team?

For the A and B players will the years away be provided? I'm sure different people have varying opinions on when a prospect progress.

Is any editing done to MLB players? I honestly can't remember if OSFM does or not.

OK found the post I saw from last year.

So all SCEA players remain untouched? Even prospects that are on the official SCEA roster? No rating changes will be made?

NO changes to any SCEA created players to start out.
Thanks.

M.K.
Knight165

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